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Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John


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both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear"
that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench -
the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it
really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand
than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen
wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for
smaller stuff)

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Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John

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Hi Bill, what chuck do you use? John

"William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote
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both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear"
that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench -
the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it
really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand
than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen
wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for
smaller stuff)

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:34:47 -0500, "Bassboat"
wrote:

Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John

Bill

www.wbnoble.com

to contact me, do not reply to this message,
instead correct this address and use it

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William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote:

both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear"
that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench -
the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it
really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand
than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen
wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for
smaller stuff)


The current SuperNova 2 uses just such a method. Much nicer and easier
to engage than the old SuperNova.

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I have an old-style Super Nova chuck, along with several different jawsets.
I began using it on my Jet mini lathe. In January of 2005, I bought a
Stubby 750 and have turned some rather large and heavy pieces (by my
standards, anyway). When dealing with really heavy green bowl blanks, I
start my turnings on a faceplate, then switch to the chuck after the blank
is lighter and balanced. The Super Nova has proven to be quite serviceable.
I am anticipating the purchase of a Super Nova II, as I understand it is a
great improvement over the original Super Nova.

Most semi-professional/professional turners swear by Oneway Stronghold
chucks. Others swear by Vicmarcs. I do admit to wondering if they are
really that much better than my Super Nova, but I'm not convinced. Since
the jawsets are not interchangeable between the brands, I suppose I will
just buy another Super Nova.

Barry


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Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John





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While I haven't seen the Super Nova up close and personal, when I saw
it in a catalog, I thought it was a Vicmarc. I have 3 Vicmarcs, and
love them. The only thing I can compare them to are one of the Novas
with the tommy bars instead of a key. I didn't like that one at all.
The keyed chucks do hold better and require only one hand to tighten. I
have stripped 2 of the pinion gears in my smaller Vicmarcs, and broke
the plastic handles on 2 of the keys. I don't try to overtighten, as I
have broken a few feet (recesses/mortices) off on my bowls, but must
admit to being one who believes that if all else fails, it is nice to
be able to rely on brute strength. You will be happy with the upper end
chucks.
robo hippy

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Welcome to Woodturning John,

The Nova, Oneway, and Vicmarc chucks are all excellent and you cannot go wrong
with any of them. I personally have Nova Chucks, partly because they were the
first four jaw scroll chuck on the market for woodturners and I purchased one in
about 1990. I bought a second one a year later and a bunch of chuck jaws. I now
have all of their chucks including the new G3 and the 5" chuck. I have to
recommend Nova chucks because that is where my experience lies.

Fred Holder
http://www.fholder.com

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Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John




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I own a Oneway Stronghold and a Oneway Talon. They are both
trouble-free and great to use.

Bill

Fred Holder wrote:
Welcome to Woodturning John,

The Nova, Oneway, and Vicmarc chucks are all excellent and you cannot go wrong
with any of them. I personally have Nova Chucks, partly because they were the
first four jaw scroll chuck on the market for woodturners and I purchased one in
about 1990. I bought a second one a year later and a bunch of chuck jaws. I now
have all of their chucks including the new G3 and the 5" chuck. I have to
recommend Nova chucks because that is where my experience lies.

Fred Holder
http://www.fholder.com

In article , Bassboat says...

Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John





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Barry - yes, the vicmark is much nicer - at least in my personal
opinion - and it's much larger, more suitable for larger pieces




On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:12:35 -0500, "Barry N. Turner"
wrote:

I have an old-style Super Nova chuck, along with several different jawsets.
I began using it on my Jet mini lathe. In January of 2005, I bought a
Stubby 750 and have turned some rather large and heavy pieces (by my
standards, anyway). When dealing with really heavy green bowl blanks, I
start my turnings on a faceplate, then switch to the chuck after the blank
is lighter and balanced. The Super Nova has proven to be quite serviceable.
I am anticipating the purchase of a Super Nova II, as I understand it is a
great improvement over the original Super Nova.

Most semi-professional/professional turners swear by Oneway Stronghold
chucks. Others swear by Vicmarcs. I do admit to wondering if they are
really that much better than my Super Nova, but I'm not convinced. Since
the jawsets are not interchangeable between the brands, I suppose I will
just buy another Super Nova.

Barry



Bill

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I have Nova chucks.

When starting out turning I wanted a 4 jaw chuck. With all the other
associated costs with starting turning I decided to save a bit of money
and buy a super nova. At times now I think about getting a larger
vicmark chuck but I've already over spent this year on just turning wood
etc.

Suggestion, buy what the people you know buy. If they have vicmark
chucks and you buy Nova you'll never hear the end of it.

Bassboat wrote:
Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John




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In article .com,
"robo hippy" wrote:

I
have stripped 2 of the pinion gears in my smaller Vicmarcs, and broke
the plastic handles on 2 of the keys. I don't try to overtighten


AYE CARUMBA! Really?! Stripped pinion gears? You da MAN!

I've had the smaller Vicmarc (#100) for 4 or 5 years now and have had no
problems with it. Picked up the larger #120 (140?) last fall when I
upgraded my lathe - but no additional jaws for that one yet. The allen
wrench for the #100s jaw screws did break its bond inside the plastic
handle - was able to easily replace it that day with a quick visit to my
local Ace Hardware store.

I believe I've read somewhere that some of the jaws from one maker will
fit the chuck bodies of another. I don't have a reference source for
what fits what, but that would be a valuable file.

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Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm

Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness.
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:07:37 -0700, "William B Noble (don't reply to this
address)" wrote:

both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear"
that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench -
the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it
really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand
than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen
wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for
smaller stuff)


Bill

Bill.. the Oneway is gear driven also, if I understand your comment..

Mac

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Bassboat wrote:
Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning.
I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe.
Can
someone give me some good advice? TIA.
John


I have a Oneway Talon, SuperNova2, and a Vicmarc 120. If I was starting
over I would purchase the Vicmarc chucks as I really like them better.
But since I started with the Talon I will probably obtain another body
to use multiple jaws. The Talon is a great chuck with nothing lacking.
I don't particularly like the Nova since it tightens backwards and has
been balky since I got it. It will stop tightening or loosening and you
have to move the wrench to the other slot and then it will go. I keep
it because I have several face plate rings I use on segmented projects
to be able to quickly take on and off.

Frankly I don't truly believe you can go wrong if you stick with a good
brand chuck. Like everything chucks, lathes, and all other things
everyone has a pet or likes a feature of one or the other. Main thing
is look at the jaw selection and see which one offers jaws that better
fit your turnings.

Vernon

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Hi John

The real difference between those chucks is the jaws profile, they al
have tapered gears, either inside or on the wrench, the self centering
metal chucks have them also and they are inside the chuck body, and a T
style wrench is inserted to tighten or open them.
Some wood chucks have the gears captured and a T wrench is used to
operate them, and some have the gear right on the wrench, not much of a
difference if they are well made and fit.
Some wood chucks are closed and some are open, while the chuck is
turning very little if anything will get inside the chuck, if it's
open, any dust and shavings that get inside are flung out in my
experience, if closed, it is trapped and if it has the captured gears
there is another place for debris to get stuck.
I do not spray turnings with any finish while on my lathe, if you do
that than that sticky stuff will hold shavings and dust, and it will
gum up the works.
Both the Nova and the Oneway are good chucks, but my preference goes
with the Oneway chucks, for the patented shape of the jaws, it gives
you a size flexibility that none of the other chucks have, and the
reason I use both the Oneway Stronghold and the Talon for wood turning
and use a couple of metal chucks for metal turning.

http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

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Hi John

The real difference between those chucks is the jaws profile, they al
have tapered gears, either inside or on the wrench, the self centering
metal chucks have them also and they are inside the chuck body, and a T
style wrench is inserted to tighten or open them.
Some wood chucks have the gears captured and a T wrench is used to
operate them, and some have the gear right on the wrench, not much of a
difference if they are well made and fit.
Some wood chucks are closed and some are open, while the chuck is
turning very little if anything will get inside the chuck, if it's
open, any dust and shavings that get inside are flung out in my
experience, if closed, it is trapped and if it has the captured gears
there is another place for debris to get stuck.
I do not spray turnings with any finish while on my lathe, if you do
that than that sticky stuff will hold shavings and dust, and it will
gum up the works.
Both the Nova and the Oneway are good chucks, but my preference goes
with the Oneway chucks, for the patented shape of the jaws, it gives
you a size flexibility that none of the other chucks have, and the
reason I use both the Oneway Stronghold and the Talon for wood turning
and use a couple of metal chucks for metal turning.

http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo


But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over
the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush wood........
!!! There George I saved you the trouble.....

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But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over
the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush wood........
!!! There George I saved you the trouble.....


Cool.. I'm going to go try splitting logs with my Talon!


Mac

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On Fri, 05 May 2006 13:56:55 GMT, "M.J." wrote:



But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over
the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush
wood........
!!! There George I saved you the trouble.....


Cool.. I'm going to go try splitting logs with my Talon!


Mac



Well then you might want to have a look at the new Oneway jaws. I think
they will be much better for "splitting" firewood.....

http://www.oneway.on.ca/chucks/acces...tower_jaws.htm


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Oneway jaws aren't the only ones that can crush wood, my Vicmarc can
also, it is all in the wrist torque. But then again, I use mortice, and
expanding jaws rather than tenon and compression .
robo hippy

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Leo, Thanks for the info. I like your web site. John


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Hi John

The real difference between those chucks is the jaws profile, they al
have tapered gears, either inside or on the wrench, the self centering
metal chucks have them also and they are inside the chuck body, and a T
style wrench is inserted to tighten or open them.
Some wood chucks have the gears captured and a T wrench is used to
operate them, and some have the gear right on the wrench, not much of a
difference if they are well made and fit.
Some wood chucks are closed and some are open, while the chuck is
turning very little if anything will get inside the chuck, if it's
open, any dust and shavings that get inside are flung out in my
experience, if closed, it is trapped and if it has the captured gears
there is another place for debris to get stuck.
I do not spray turnings with any finish while on my lathe, if you do
that than that sticky stuff will hold shavings and dust, and it will
gum up the works.
Both the Nova and the Oneway are good chucks, but my preference goes
with the Oneway chucks, for the patented shape of the jaws, it gives
you a size flexibility that none of the other chucks have, and the
reason I use both the Oneway Stronghold and the Talon for wood turning
and use a couple of metal chucks for metal turning.

http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo



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On Fri, 05 May 2006 15:03:59 GMT, "M.J." wrote:




"mac davis" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 May 2006 13:56:55 GMT, "M.J." wrote:



But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over
the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush
wood........
!!! There George I saved you the trouble.....


Cool.. I'm going to go try splitting logs with my Talon!


Mac



Well then you might want to have a look at the new Oneway jaws. I think
they will be much better for "splitting" firewood.....

http://www.oneway.on.ca/chucks/acces...tower_jaws.htm


too late... they aren't available for the talon yet and it's already splitting
time.. *g*

Mac

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William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote:

both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear"
that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench -
the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it
really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand
than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen
wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for
smaller stuff)


Once again, late to another thread.

The SuperNova2 uses a ball head allen wrench to tighten the jaws
- with just one hand. THAT's really really handy when you've got
the big cherry piece slice sized jaws on the chuck. And because
the provided ball ended allen wrench hat a nice T-handle on it,
you can tighten those jaws down as tight as you want to.

All edges and corners that your knuckles are capable of making
contact with have their edges eased or actually rounded. Contact
will get your attention -but won't remove flesh. You have to
have made contact with the old machinist three or four jaw
chuck to REALLY appreciate this little detail.

While I haven't chucked up any green two foot long, 18" diameter
chunks of wood in one, the SuperNova2 has held a 10" diameter
by 8" long piece of green claro walnut while I cut away everything
that didn't look like a bowl.

Don't have a Stuby or big OneWay to try the SN2 on so I don't
know if it'd hold a tree trunk, but I'm guessing the beefiest
jaw set for the SN2 could do it.

charlie b
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