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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to
woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear"
that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench - the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for smaller stuff) On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:34:47 -0500, "Bassboat" wrote: Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
Hi Bill, what chuck do you use? John "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote in message ... both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear" that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench - the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for smaller stuff) On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:34:47 -0500, "Bassboat" wrote: Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote:
both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear" that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench - the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for smaller stuff) The current SuperNova 2 uses just such a method. Much nicer and easier to engage than the old SuperNova. -- Alun Saunders |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
I have an old-style Super Nova chuck, along with several different jawsets.
I began using it on my Jet mini lathe. In January of 2005, I bought a Stubby 750 and have turned some rather large and heavy pieces (by my standards, anyway). When dealing with really heavy green bowl blanks, I start my turnings on a faceplate, then switch to the chuck after the blank is lighter and balanced. The Super Nova has proven to be quite serviceable. I am anticipating the purchase of a Super Nova II, as I understand it is a great improvement over the original Super Nova. Most semi-professional/professional turners swear by Oneway Stronghold chucks. Others swear by Vicmarcs. I do admit to wondering if they are really that much better than my Super Nova, but I'm not convinced. Since the jawsets are not interchangeable between the brands, I suppose I will just buy another Super Nova. Barry "Bassboat" wrote in message ... Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
While I haven't seen the Super Nova up close and personal, when I saw it in a catalog, I thought it was a Vicmarc. I have 3 Vicmarcs, and love them. The only thing I can compare them to are one of the Novas with the tommy bars instead of a key. I didn't like that one at all. The keyed chucks do hold better and require only one hand to tighten. I have stripped 2 of the pinion gears in my smaller Vicmarcs, and broke the plastic handles on 2 of the keys. I don't try to overtighten, as I have broken a few feet (recesses/mortices) off on my bowls, but must admit to being one who believes that if all else fails, it is nice to be able to rely on brute strength. You will be happy with the upper end chucks. robo hippy |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
Welcome to Woodturning John,
The Nova, Oneway, and Vicmarc chucks are all excellent and you cannot go wrong with any of them. I personally have Nova Chucks, partly because they were the first four jaw scroll chuck on the market for woodturners and I purchased one in about 1990. I bought a second one a year later and a bunch of chuck jaws. I now have all of their chucks including the new G3 and the 5" chuck. I have to recommend Nova chucks because that is where my experience lies. Fred Holder http://www.fholder.com In article , Bassboat says... Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
I own a Oneway Stronghold and a Oneway Talon. They are both
trouble-free and great to use. Bill Fred Holder wrote: Welcome to Woodturning John, The Nova, Oneway, and Vicmarc chucks are all excellent and you cannot go wrong with any of them. I personally have Nova Chucks, partly because they were the first four jaw scroll chuck on the market for woodturners and I purchased one in about 1990. I bought a second one a year later and a bunch of chuck jaws. I now have all of their chucks including the new G3 and the 5" chuck. I have to recommend Nova chucks because that is where my experience lies. Fred Holder http://www.fholder.com In article , Bassboat says... Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
Barry - yes, the vicmark is much nicer - at least in my personal
opinion - and it's much larger, more suitable for larger pieces On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:12:35 -0500, "Barry N. Turner" wrote: I have an old-style Super Nova chuck, along with several different jawsets. I began using it on my Jet mini lathe. In January of 2005, I bought a Stubby 750 and have turned some rather large and heavy pieces (by my standards, anyway). When dealing with really heavy green bowl blanks, I start my turnings on a faceplate, then switch to the chuck after the blank is lighter and balanced. The Super Nova has proven to be quite serviceable. I am anticipating the purchase of a Super Nova II, as I understand it is a great improvement over the original Super Nova. Most semi-professional/professional turners swear by Oneway Stronghold chucks. Others swear by Vicmarcs. I do admit to wondering if they are really that much better than my Super Nova, but I'm not convinced. Since the jawsets are not interchangeable between the brands, I suppose I will just buy another Super Nova. Barry Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
I have Nova chucks.
When starting out turning I wanted a 4 jaw chuck. With all the other associated costs with starting turning I decided to save a bit of money and buy a super nova. At times now I think about getting a larger vicmark chuck but I've already over spent this year on just turning wood etc. Suggestion, buy what the people you know buy. If they have vicmark chucks and you buy Nova you'll never hear the end of it. Bassboat wrote: Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John |
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In article .com,
"robo hippy" wrote: I have stripped 2 of the pinion gears in my smaller Vicmarcs, and broke the plastic handles on 2 of the keys. I don't try to overtighten AYE CARUMBA! Really?! Stripped pinion gears? You da MAN! I've had the smaller Vicmarc (#100) for 4 or 5 years now and have had no problems with it. Picked up the larger #120 (140?) last fall when I upgraded my lathe - but no additional jaws for that one yet. The allen wrench for the #100s jaw screws did break its bond inside the plastic handle - was able to easily replace it that day with a quick visit to my local Ace Hardware store. I believe I've read somewhere that some of the jaws from one maker will fit the chuck bodies of another. I don't have a reference source for what fits what, but that would be a valuable file. -- Owen Lowe Northwest Woodturners Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild ___ Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness. |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:07:37 -0700, "William B Noble (don't reply to this
address)" wrote: both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear" that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench - the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for smaller stuff) Bill Bill.. the Oneway is gear driven also, if I understand your comment.. Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
Bassboat wrote: Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John I have a Oneway Talon, SuperNova2, and a Vicmarc 120. If I was starting over I would purchase the Vicmarc chucks as I really like them better. But since I started with the Talon I will probably obtain another body to use multiple jaws. The Talon is a great chuck with nothing lacking. I don't particularly like the Nova since it tightens backwards and has been balky since I got it. It will stop tightening or loosening and you have to move the wrench to the other slot and then it will go. I keep it because I have several face plate rings I use on segmented projects to be able to quickly take on and off. Frankly I don't truly believe you can go wrong if you stick with a good brand chuck. Like everything chucks, lathes, and all other things everyone has a pet or likes a feature of one or the other. Main thing is look at the jaw selection and see which one offers jaws that better fit your turnings. Vernon |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
Hi John
The real difference between those chucks is the jaws profile, they al have tapered gears, either inside or on the wrench, the self centering metal chucks have them also and they are inside the chuck body, and a T style wrench is inserted to tighten or open them. Some wood chucks have the gears captured and a T wrench is used to operate them, and some have the gear right on the wrench, not much of a difference if they are well made and fit. Some wood chucks are closed and some are open, while the chuck is turning very little if anything will get inside the chuck, if it's open, any dust and shavings that get inside are flung out in my experience, if closed, it is trapped and if it has the captured gears there is another place for debris to get stuck. I do not spray turnings with any finish while on my lathe, if you do that than that sticky stuff will hold shavings and dust, and it will gum up the works. Both the Nova and the Oneway are good chucks, but my preference goes with the Oneway chucks, for the patented shape of the jaws, it gives you a size flexibility that none of the other chucks have, and the reason I use both the Oneway Stronghold and the Talon for wood turning and use a couple of metal chucks for metal turning. http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo |
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wrote in message oups.com... Hi John The real difference between those chucks is the jaws profile, they al have tapered gears, either inside or on the wrench, the self centering metal chucks have them also and they are inside the chuck body, and a T style wrench is inserted to tighten or open them. Some wood chucks have the gears captured and a T wrench is used to operate them, and some have the gear right on the wrench, not much of a difference if they are well made and fit. Some wood chucks are closed and some are open, while the chuck is turning very little if anything will get inside the chuck, if it's open, any dust and shavings that get inside are flung out in my experience, if closed, it is trapped and if it has the captured gears there is another place for debris to get stuck. I do not spray turnings with any finish while on my lathe, if you do that than that sticky stuff will hold shavings and dust, and it will gum up the works. Both the Nova and the Oneway are good chucks, but my preference goes with the Oneway chucks, for the patented shape of the jaws, it gives you a size flexibility that none of the other chucks have, and the reason I use both the Oneway Stronghold and the Talon for wood turning and use a couple of metal chucks for metal turning. http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush wood........ !!! There George I saved you the trouble..... -- Regards, M.J. (Mike) Orr http://members.shaw.ca/approachingart |
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On Fri, 05 May 2006 13:56:55 GMT, "M.J." wrote:
But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush wood........ !!! There George I saved you the trouble..... Cool.. I'm going to go try splitting logs with my Talon! Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... On Fri, 05 May 2006 13:56:55 GMT, "M.J." wrote: But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush wood........ !!! There George I saved you the trouble..... Cool.. I'm going to go try splitting logs with my Talon! Mac Well then you might want to have a look at the new Oneway jaws. I think they will be much better for "splitting" firewood..... http://www.oneway.on.ca/chucks/acces...tower_jaws.htm -- Regards, M.J. (Mike) Orr http://members.shaw.ca/approachingart |
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Oneway jaws aren't the only ones that can crush wood, my Vicmarc can
also, it is all in the wrist torque. But then again, I use mortice, and expanding jaws rather than tenon and compression . robo hippy |
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Leo, Thanks for the info. I like your web site. John
wrote in message oups.com... Hi John The real difference between those chucks is the jaws profile, they al have tapered gears, either inside or on the wrench, the self centering metal chucks have them also and they are inside the chuck body, and a T style wrench is inserted to tighten or open them. Some wood chucks have the gears captured and a T wrench is used to operate them, and some have the gear right on the wrench, not much of a difference if they are well made and fit. Some wood chucks are closed and some are open, while the chuck is turning very little if anything will get inside the chuck, if it's open, any dust and shavings that get inside are flung out in my experience, if closed, it is trapped and if it has the captured gears there is another place for debris to get stuck. I do not spray turnings with any finish while on my lathe, if you do that than that sticky stuff will hold shavings and dust, and it will gum up the works. Both the Nova and the Oneway are good chucks, but my preference goes with the Oneway chucks, for the patented shape of the jaws, it gives you a size flexibility that none of the other chucks have, and the reason I use both the Oneway Stronghold and the Talon for wood turning and use a couple of metal chucks for metal turning. http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo |
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On Fri, 05 May 2006 15:03:59 GMT, "M.J." wrote:
"mac davis" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 05 May 2006 13:56:55 GMT, "M.J." wrote: But Leo you forgot the one most important caveat ...... (A hush fell over the crowd as they waited with bated breath) Oneway jaws crush wood........ !!! There George I saved you the trouble..... Cool.. I'm going to go try splitting logs with my Talon! Mac Well then you might want to have a look at the new Oneway jaws. I think they will be much better for "splitting" firewood..... http://www.oneway.on.ca/chucks/acces...tower_jaws.htm too late... they aren't available for the talon yet and it's already splitting time.. *g* Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote:
both the chucks you suggest will be fine. I don't like the "gear" that Nova uses, I prefer chucks that tighten with an allen wrench - the gear type tends to cam out and wear, it's much hardter to make it really tight if you need to. My chuck of choice is a different brand than those two, key consideration though was tightening via an allen wrench not a bevled gear. (yes, I also have a Nova, use it for smaller stuff) Once again, late to another thread. The SuperNova2 uses a ball head allen wrench to tighten the jaws - with just one hand. THAT's really really handy when you've got the big cherry piece slice sized jaws on the chuck. And because the provided ball ended allen wrench hat a nice T-handle on it, you can tighten those jaws down as tight as you want to. All edges and corners that your knuckles are capable of making contact with have their edges eased or actually rounded. Contact will get your attention -but won't remove flesh. You have to have made contact with the old machinist three or four jaw chuck to REALLY appreciate this little detail. While I haven't chucked up any green two foot long, 18" diameter chunks of wood in one, the SuperNova2 has held a 10" diameter by 8" long piece of green claro walnut while I cut away everything that didn't look like a bowl. Don't have a Stuby or big OneWay to try the SN2 on so I don't know if it'd hold a tree trunk, but I'm guessing the beefiest jaw set for the SN2 could do it. charlie b |
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