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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
I'm new to the group. My name is John Patrick and I sell Heated Bird
Baths online. I have an idea of turning a plater with a rise in the middle that is just under the hight of the rim. I can easily put a bird bath deicer on the bottom of the plater to provide the heat. My concerns are as follows. How would I attach the heating element. See it he http://www.farminnovators.com/page9.htm Its the Economical Bird Bath Deicer. What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Will the heat darken the wood? What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? John Patrick www.birdoasis.com |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
This should be an interesting thread to follow.
I can't think of any wood that will stand up to the parameters you describe of constant heat, constant UV, and be completely exposed to the elements while submersed in alterantely cold, then warm water depending on the season. Robert |
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I can't think of any wood that will stand up to the parameters you
describe of constant heat, constant UV, and be completely exposed to the elements while submersed in alterantely cold, then warm water depending on the season. He might try Osage Orange. I understand it makes fine fence posts. |
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"BirdOasis" wrote in message oups.com... What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Untreated redwood? |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
I think teak, cedar or redwood could work but I would suggest looking
into a marine grade expoy finish. That would protect it from the water, The problem would be that most fo the ones I looked at don't have a high UV resistance so they would yellow over time. On 16 Dec 2005 09:42:56 -0800, "BirdOasis" wrote: I'm new to the group. My name is John Patrick and I sell Heated Bird Baths online. I have an idea of turning a plater with a rise in the middle that is just under the hight of the rim. I can easily put a bird bath deicer on the bottom of the plater to provide the heat. My concerns are as follows. How would I attach the heating element. See it he http://www.farminnovators.com/page9.htm Its the Economical Bird Bath Deicer. What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Will the heat darken the wood? What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? John Patrick www.birdoasis.com |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
BirdOasis wrote:
I'm new to the group. My name is John Patrick and I sell Heated Bird Baths online. I have an idea of turning a plater with a rise in the middle that is just under the hight of the rim. I can easily put a bird bath deicer on the bottom of the plater to provide the heat. My concerns are as follows. How would I attach the heating element. See it he http://www.farminnovators.com/page9.htm Its the Economical Bird Bath Deicer. What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Will the heat darken the wood? What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? John Patrick www.birdoasis.com Good ad anyway... :-) -- Will R. Jewel Boxes and Wood Art http://woodwork.pmccl.com The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.” George Bernard Shaw |
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BirdOasis said:
Will the heat darken the wood? Constant exposure to water, heat and the elements will cause changes in coloration. What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? Assuming this isn't a cloaked ad... My concern in making this from wood is the possibility of bacteria and such living in the cells of the wood. I don't know if this is a serious concern, but birds drink from AND bath in birdbaths. Just as with a wooden chopping block, bacteria could build up to harmful levels if not treated appropriately. Really good Boat Epoxy would be my first guess as to a finish. FWIW, Greg G. |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
I guess Snipe bathe in turned bath houses, but I haven't hunted any
lately. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
Birds live in trees. They seem to do well with wood, even wet
wood. The trees around here get wet all the time. Greg G. wrote: My concern in making this from wood is the possibility of bacteria and such living in the cells of the wood. I don't know if this is a serious concern, but birds drink from AND bath in birdbaths. |
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BirdOasis wrote:
I'm new to the group. My name is John Patrick and I sell Heated Bird Baths online. I have an idea of turning a plater with a rise in the middle that is just under the hight of the rim. I can easily put a bird bath deicer on the bottom of the plater to provide the heat. My concerns are as follows. How would I attach the heating element. See it he http://www.farminnovators.com/page9.htm Its the Economical Bird Bath Deicer. What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Will the heat darken the wood? What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? Research outdoor hot tubs--whatever works in or around a hot tub should work. If it's not given regular maintenance it _will_ change color and no wood is going to last forever kept damp and exposed to the weather. John Patrick www.birdoasis.com -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
BirdOasis wrote:
What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Will the heat darken the wood? What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? John Patrick www.birdoasis.com What about using Ipe ? It doesn't rot and will gray after sun exposure, but it will probably stand up to the elements. If it doesn't, then New Jersey's boardwalk is on borrowed time... http://www.floorings.com/decking/ipe/features.shtml I've read that the boardwalk has been repaired using Ipe over the last decade or so, but I'm not sure if they ever replaced the entire boardwalk with Ipe, as that page points out. Several years ago, an injunction was granted to block the city from using Ipe - due to environmental concerns that the Brazilian rainforest is being depleted too quickly. -- Brad Curfman http://www.curfman.net |
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Mike Berger said:
Birds live in trees. They seem to do well with wood, even wet wood. The trees around here get wet all the time. Greg G. wrote: My concern in making this from wood is the possibility of bacteria and such living in the cells of the wood. I don't know if this is a serious concern, but birds drink from AND bath in birdbaths. Trees aren't dead containers filled with 2 quarts of captive, heated water, being **** in, bathed in, and drunk out of by 100 birds a day either. Think large Petri-Dish. Not birdhouses. I have raised birds from eggs, keep pet birds, and maintain numerous birdfeeders and baths on our property. Birds die from exposure to human saliva and contaminated water. What makes you think your lousy analogy holds any water? Greg G. |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
Here's an idea for you, altho it's outside the scope of this forum:
make them out of stone. At least 2 types of stone I know of can be turned on a lathe - soapstone and alabaster. If you ask a rock hound, they will be able to tell you the hardness of many other available stones similar to soapstone. If you search the web, you will find sites of those who turn stone, contact them for help. I really think you're barking up the wrong "tree", pun intended, by using wood for this aplication. Another possibility: turn from any wood, make a mold, and use poured concrete for the final product. |
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re = using stone - Alabaster can dissolve if exposed to the elements. I had
an alabaster bird essentially dissolve along stone seams after being exposed to rain for several summers in the Northeast. bernie feinerman |
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Greg G wrote:
Trees aren't dead containers filled with 2 quarts of captive, heated water, being **** in, bathed in, and drunk out of by 100 birds a day either. Think large Petri-Dish. Not birdhouses. I have raised birds from eggs, keep pet birds, and maintain numerous birdfeeders and baths on our property. Birds die from exposure to human saliva and contaminated water. What makes you think your lousy analogy holds any water? Greg - I have noticed some really sever mood swings (I am not trying to be a smart ass here) in your posts. Many of your posts on this and other NGs are really even handed, thoughtful, and informative. Even entertaining. But boy... when someone hits a hotspot, your counter post is like standing in front of furnace (although I will admit, this one is really benign). I wouldn't really notice, but I followed some of your other threads, and they were like listening to your next door neighbor on Saturday afternoon (you know, the one you like.) Such a diffence in tone... Just wondering... Robert |
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I'm trying to make a turned heated bird bath.
I think you would be exceeding the natural characteristics of any wood I've
ever heard of. Man-made materials such as galvanized metal, copper, ABS plastics or other materials might be much better suited for the intended purpose. Think about it.......a platter exposed to the winter cold on one side and expected to hold heated water on the other................. Wood is a great material, but it has limitations. Barry "BirdOasis" wrote in message oups.com... I'm new to the group. My name is John Patrick and I sell Heated Bird Baths online. I have an idea of turning a plater with a rise in the middle that is just under the hight of the rim. I can easily put a bird bath deicer on the bottom of the plater to provide the heat. My concerns are as follows. How would I attach the heating element. See it he http://www.farminnovators.com/page9.htm Its the Economical Bird Bath Deicer. What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Will the heat darken the wood? What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? John Patrick www.birdoasis.com |
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Uhhhhhhhh................doesn't the Geico lizard live in the Brazilian rain
forest? Barry "Brad Curfman" wrote in message . .. BirdOasis wrote: What wood is best for winter weather? Less likely to crack, keep in mind it will have a 44 watt heating element to keep the wood and the water warm even in freezing temperatures. Will the heat darken the wood? What would I use to protect the wood from the water without harming the birds? Is this even possible? John Patrick www.birdoasis.com What about using Ipe ? It doesn't rot and will gray after sun exposure, but it will probably stand up to the elements. If it doesn't, then New Jersey's boardwalk is on borrowed time... http://www.floorings.com/decking/ipe/features.shtml I've read that the boardwalk has been repaired using Ipe over the last decade or so, but I'm not sure if they ever replaced the entire boardwalk with Ipe, as that page points out. Several years ago, an injunction was granted to block the city from using Ipe - due to environmental concerns that the Brazilian rainforest is being depleted too quickly. -- Brad Curfman http://www.curfman.net |
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:08:16 -0500, "bernie feinerman"
wrote: re = using stone - Alabaster can dissolve if exposed to the elements. I had an alabaster bird essentially dissolve along stone seams after being exposed to rain for several summers in the Northeast. I would recommend making a segmented turning, using different colors of slate for the design and Gorilla Glue to hold it together. tic(toc) -- Chuck *#:^) chaz3913(AT)yahoo(DOT)com Anti-spam sig: please remove "NO SPAM" from e-mail address to reply. September 11, 2001 - Never Forget ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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This discussion is becoming a tempest in a birdbath and strictly for the
birds, but probably it's more heated than a turned wood electric bird bath will ever be. I keep waiting for someone to mention the magical antibacterial and electrical insulation properties of wet wood. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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I can only hope that occurs only with some alabaster and not others.
Catholic church in Los Angeles built a major new cathedral, with all alabaster windows! |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:56:25 -0500, Greg wrote:
Trees aren't dead containers filled with 2 quarts of captive, heated water, being **** in, bathed in, and drunk out of by 100 birds a day either. Think large Petri-Dish. Not birdhouses. I have raised birds from eggs, keep pet birds, and maintain numerous birdfeeders and baths on our property. Birds die from exposure to human saliva and contaminated water. What makes you think your lousy analogy holds any water? Hey Greg, did you miss your meds today? Lighten up, dude, this is a family newsgroup and a FRIENDLY bunch of people. This isn't rec.cranky.woodworkers (Or rec.unstable.woodworkers, for that matter. What's that little song and dance about, anyhow?) -- Chuck *#:^) chaz3913(AT)yahoo(DOT)com Anti-spam sig: please remove "NO SPAM" from e-mail address to reply. September 11, 2001 - Never Forget ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Chuck said:
Hey Greg, did you miss your meds today? Lighten up, dude, this is a family newsgroup and a FRIENDLY bunch of people. This isn't rec.cranky.woodworkers (Or rec.unstable.woodworkers, for that matter. What's that little song and dance about, anyhow?) No med's, sorry. And I hardly consider calling an analogy "lousy" warrants a comparison to any form of psychosis. Only an instant bad attitude towards what I consider to be unreasoned sarcasm. Comes with age and a lifetime of dealing with people who don't fully consider their response before rebutting with sarcasm. I'm as polite in return as I'm addressed. You apparently missed the flow of the thread due to a previous top poster. So look it over again - in order: Greg G. wrote: My concern in making this from wood is the possibility of bacteria and such living in the cells of the wood. Mike Berger said: Birds live in trees. They seem to do well with wood, even wet wood. The trees around here get wet all the time. Greg G. wrote: Trees aren't dead containers filled with 2 quarts of captive, heated water, being **** in, bathed in, and drunk out of by 100 birds a day either. Think large Petri-Dish. Not birdhouses. I have raised birds from eggs, keep pet birds, and maintain numerous birdfeeders and baths on our property. Birds die from exposure to human saliva and contaminated water. What makes you think your lousy analogy holds any water? Therein lies the poor analogy - and the poster's apparent sarcasm. A tree isn't a heated bird bath. And it doesn't hold water - get it? It's a joke. But I hardly think it's worth putting up a birdbath if it contributes to the spread of an avian disease. Birds are overly sensitive to bacterial infections. Any place where 50+ birds a day bathe, poop, and drink should be maintained meticulously - or what's the point? Just as with a wooden chopping block that is used with meat, you can not remove the bacteria from the wood without sterilization - which isn't likely considering the fact that it's a backyard birdbath. And is probably one reason they are generally made of an inert material. Want yard art? Fine - build something else. But a petri dish for avian diseases they can do without. Birds are my friends... ;-) While a wooden birdbath certainly might be attractive, unless it were sealed with a completely cured waterproof marine epoxy, it could be harmful to the same birds you are trying to benefit. Proper maintenance by JohnQ is improbable, given the fact that my next door neighbor leaves his garbage cans in the street for a week. What are the chances he is going to sterilize a birdbath twice a week? From the Vermont Institute of Natural Science: ----------- Select baths that are made of materials that are easy to disinfect such as plastic and glass. Wood and unglazed pottery can be hard to remove feces and can also harbor bacteria and grow algae and fungi. ------------ From an Audubon brochu ----------- Much like a busy restaurant needs constant cleaning to maintain sanitary conditions, so does a busy bird feeder or bird bath. Left unchecked, unclean receptacles can develop fungi and bacteria, potentially causing disease and even death of your resident songbirds. The communal feeding and bathing by your birds allows for the easy spread of disease. Contaminated food and droppings can cause a host of diseases and infections that can result in harmful effects to birds. Depending on weather conditions, bird feeders should generally be cleaned every two weeks. Baths should be emptied and refilled every few days. For a thorough cleaning of feeders and bird baths, use 9 parts water to one part bleach, or use vinegar. Wooden baths are difficult to disinfect thoroughly. ----------- Enough said. FWIW, Greg G. |
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Greg wrote:
But I hardly think it's worth putting up a birdbath if it contributes to the spread of an avian disease. Birds are overly sensitive to bacterial infections. Any place where 50+ birds a day bathe, poop, and drink should be maintained meticulously - or what's the point? While I agree that bird baths should be maintained and that wood is a poor choice for bird bath material, I will point out that these are Wild birds. There are lots of Bad Things in the wild and the birds seem to do just fine. I live about a quarter mile from an urban refuge of sorts. I regularly see birds eating, drinking and bathing in stagnant little ponds or puddles. Including geese and ducks (all winter) - their bowel habits are legendary. I would not drink the water - they do. |
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Greg G wrote:
Or possibly I'm just a very unpleasant person. ;-) Awwww... I doubt that. It is indeed hard to find out what the intent is of the email from time to time. From time to time I am fooled by postings that use a different vernacular or phrasing than I am used to. I know when I am having a bad day, or someone hits on a pertinent subject that is ****ing me off, I am liable to take it either the wrong way, or maybe take it too far. Notice I DID NOT say you, but I will say that I do that on occasion. I have seen on every group I have participated in where things get so out of hand on things like defending Norm from NYY, Lee Valley, that people will put in writing things that they would never say face to face. The wouldn't be that rude or stupid. On the other hand, they may not feel the need to say them if they have the benefit of tone, inflection, and a wry grin. I participated for quite a while in the rec.woodworking ( I assume this is your reference to the Wreck) and they got so mean and ****y that it simply wasn't worth it. I have been a professional contractor and woodworker for over 25 years, and I just didn't feel like I needed to listen to some moron that got the new Time Life book on trims tell me how screwed up I was, then scream like he was on fire if I told him he was wrong. You are right, things get nasty over there fast. And the hell of it all is they are quite proud of it. They think it is a private club, and you must obey those who post the most since it is their private playground. I didn't read or participate with that group for years, and never missed it. Only spotty now. Same happened with alt.coffee. Both are used now for archive sources, where they can still kick ass. For most people, including a great deal here and no the wreck, woodworking is a hobby. Even though it is a profession for me, I try not to wieners bother me. At the young age of fifty, having been self employed for 25 years, I have learned that most people do not care about my opinion, and in many cases, I don't care about theirs. With that in mind, unless it gets insulting, I usually let the knotheads feel like they have scored with the keyboard sniping. Who cares? I only mentioned you by name as I have read a great deal of your posts, especially on the wreck. Again, mostly good stuff, but a few hot spots seem to come up. However, in reading your post, dealing with attorneys and crappy isps sure puts me on edge. Good luck with all that. Robert |
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Lobby Dosser said:
Greg wrote: But I hardly think it's worth putting up a birdbath if it contributes to the spread of an avian disease. Birds are overly sensitive to bacterial infections. Any place where 50+ birds a day bathe, poop, and drink should be maintained meticulously - or what's the point? While I agree that bird baths should be maintained and that wood is a poor choice for bird bath material, I will point out that these are Wild birds. There are lots of Bad Things in the wild and the birds seem to do just fine. I live about a quarter mile from an urban refuge of sorts. I regularly see birds eating, drinking and bathing in stagnant little ponds or puddles. Including geese and ducks (all winter) - their bowel habits are legendary. I would not drink the water - they do. Not trying to start anything here, but only to make a point. Africans drink bad water as well. And they still get Guinea Worms. Many die. Many spend painful months dealing with the infections. Yet there are still many people who flock to contaminated water holes to drink the water. This doesn't make it healthy or desirable. http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/guinea.html Captive (pet) birds are actually far less likely to suffer from the spread of disease than wild birds - unless it's a breeders' enterprise. You don't generally pass a disease to yourself. I know of no individuals who contracted Aids from self-abuse. ;-) Avian Influenza (Bird flu) is reaching epidemic proportions in parts of the world - and is gaining a foothold in the US as well. It is well known in Canada. Unless you are banding the birds and tracking which ones may or may not succumb to disease, you cannot confirm that they aren't suffering from the act of drinking bad water. Songbirds are far more delicate and susceptible than ducks, geese, and pigeons. Additionally, many people (like us), live on migration routes, and birds who come to drink from our bird ponds can be infected by diseases they aren't normally exposed to, and have no natural immunity to contradict a swift death. Some become carriers, thereby transporting the disease across thousands of miles before infecting the local population of yet another region. Naturally, all of this is going to happen on it's own over time, by virtue of the disease's own survival devices. But it certainly doesn't need our inadvertent help in spreading, either. Remember, the Native Indians of this country weren't wiped out by guns as much as by the diseases brought from Europe by the white-man. And the plague... well... what can I say? FWIW, Greg G. |
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And the plague... well... what can I say? 'Bout a thousand or so geese went over the house early this am. Heading south somewhere for breakfast. They'll pass over again this evening. Those as drank the bad water will be crapping along the way from a great height - amazing what that does on a Vertical surface. ) |
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Lobby Dosser said:
Greg wrote: And the plague... well... what can I say? 'Bout a thousand or so geese went over the house early this am. Heading south somewhere for breakfast. They'll pass over again this evening. Those as drank the bad water will be crapping along the way from a great height - amazing what that does on a Vertical surface. ) Like oh, say... the freshly washed car. A 1 lb. diarrhea bomb. We get geese twice a year, and last week were the sandhill cranes. What a racket - and what a mess. ;-) Greg G. |
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Greg wrote:
Lobby Dosser said: Greg wrote: And the plague... well... what can I say? 'Bout a thousand or so geese went over the house early this am. Heading south somewhere for breakfast. They'll pass over again this evening. Those as drank the bad water will be crapping along the way from a great height - amazing what that does on a Vertical surface. ) Like oh, say... the freshly washed car. A 1 lb. diarrhea bomb. We get geese twice a year, and last week were the sandhill cranes. What a racket - and what a mess. ;-) We have the geese all winter and they fly over the house a couple times a day. I swear some of them must have Norden bombsights. Perfect patterns! |
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When I was younger and more foolish I did some work for a friend who owned a
laying farm, among other types of farming enterprises. We had to move new layers from the brood barn to the laying barn and then clean the brood barn. I thought we were on the concrete floor and then found out it was 2 to 2 1/2' down. Hen manure, pick axes and shovels to the conveyer. Do not complain about a lousy thousand geese for a fly over :-) Did I ever tell you about Uncle Merritt's bird farm? Beauty is in the "eye" not the "nose" of the beholder :-) -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada www.aroundthewoods.com |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:41:54 -0500, Greg wrote:
How some of these folks made it out of college (or high school for that matter) defies comprehension. Total lack of sentence structure, punctuation, and capitalization leads me to dismiss them as lazy brained people who either drink to much, or simply don't care. I'll assume you are referring to lazy brained people who either don't care or who toast abundance. Ricky |
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"Darrell Feltmate" wrote:
When I was younger and more foolish I did some work for a friend who owned a laying farm, among other types of farming enterprises. We had to move new layers from the brood barn to the laying barn and then clean the brood barn. I thought we were on the concrete floor and then found out it was 2 to 2 1/2' down. Hen manure, pick axes and shovels to the conveyer. Do not complain about a lousy thousand geese for a fly over :-) Did I ever tell you about Uncle Merritt's bird farm? Beauty is in the "eye" not the "nose" of the beholder :-) Ever see the PBS (IIRC) show on the Guano Islands off Chile? 2' is nothing. ) Speaking of Uncle Merritt, I once had to do a survey of the Turkey Farm at Oregon State. Wading through a 1000 or so Turkeys with a transit ain't a lot of fun - oops pardon me - coming through - giddyup - shoo - Bugger OFF! (trying to shake turkey loose from pantleg) ... |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:45:03 -0600, Ricky Robbins
wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:41:54 -0500, Greg wrote: How some of these folks made it out of college (or high school for that matter) defies comprehension. Total lack of sentence structure, punctuation, and capitalization leads me to dismiss them as lazy brained people who either drink to much, or simply don't care. I'll assume you are referring to lazy brained people who either don't care or who toast abundance. Hahaha...too-shay! -- Chuck *#:^) chaz3913(AT)yahoo(DOT)com Anti-spam sig: please remove "NO SPAM" from e-mail address to reply. September 11, 2001 - Never Forget ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Ricky Robbins said:
I'll assume you are referring to lazy brained people who either don't care or who toast abundance. How lame - I need a proofreader. To/Too, bad structure, etc. I suppose this makes me one of them. :-\ Argh... Greg G. |
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Ricky Robbins said:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:41:54 -0500, Greg wrote: lazy brained people who either drink to much, or simply don't care. I'll assume you are referring to lazy brained people who either don't care or who toast abundance. Actually, it would be people who send emails like the following. (Names revealing the guilty have been XXX'd out - otherwise pasted verbatim.) This is from the Manager of a large dealer in CA: ------------- I am with a Office supply dealer in xxxxxx Ca.We get your name from a gentelmen at the XXXX show in Las vegas. We have XX/XXX software- but have not use it to its fullest, As we do can have a Expert on site- I do, do some reporting from it. I would love to do more. Iam very interested in what you do, Right now our need is for a Catalog.Maybe we can talk- i think there are about 50-100 items some are in our database- some we have download pictures. ---------- Not simply a typo - but all that I described heretofore. This person is white, US born and educated. Is this the product of a bilingual education in Southern, CA? Scary! Touché. G FWIW, Greg G. |
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"Darrell Feltmate" wrote:
Lobby God made turkeys to make sheep look smart. :-) Got that right! |
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Greg,
Your moment of accepting humility was appreciated. Your example is unbelievable.. Merry Christmas TomNie topposter "Greg G." wrote in message ... Ricky Robbins said: On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:41:54 -0500, Greg wrote: lazy brained people who either drink to much, or simply don't care. I'll assume you are referring to lazy brained people who either don't care or who toast abundance. Actually, it would be people who send emails like the following. (Names revealing the guilty have been XXX'd out - otherwise pasted verbatim.) This is from the Manager of a large dealer in CA: ------------- I am with a Office supply dealer in xxxxxx Ca.We get your name from a gentelmen at the XXXX show in Las vegas. We have XX/XXX software- but have not use it to its fullest, As we do can have a Expert on site- I do, do some reporting from it. I would love to do more. Iam very interested in what you do, Right now our need is for a Catalog.Maybe we can talk- i think there are about 50-100 items some are in our database- some we have download pictures. ---------- Not simply a typo - but all that I described heretofore. This person is white, US born and educated. Is this the product of a bilingual education in Southern, CA? Scary! Touché. G FWIW, Greg G. |
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