There was a posting about angle drills in August, and Ted mentioned an
angle drill from JM Tools in Riverside, CA. Being totally skeptical (I
mean how could they make a drill that sells for 1/5 the cost) that it
could even come close to the Sioux/Milwaukee angle drills, I figured
that what the heck, for $30, I couldn't go wrong. Worst case scenario
would be that I would get a few days out of it, and it would be fried.
I burn out one or two sets of bearings on my S/M per year. It runs me
$70 or so to get them repaired. I also sand with 3 inch discs which
will put a lot of stress on a 'drill' that isn't intended for use as a
grinder. I am generally hard on my tools, prefering ones that will
stand a lot of use and abuse.

When the drill arrived the first thing that I niticed was that the
joint where the halves of the casing came together showed a slight(1/32
inch) gap. The vent holes on the case are curved rather that straight
as on the S/M drills. The chuck is slightly different. When I plugged
it in and fired it up, I found out that it is the slower speed model,
rather that the high speed model that I normally use. I have, and use
both. I now have about 40 hours on the cheap drill, and it shows no
signs of wearing down. Did I say that I am hard on my tools? With the
way this tool performs, I can see no reason to buy or repair the S/M
drills again. I will post when I finally burn this one up. If it lasts
through Christmas, as I would expect the S/M drills to do, it will be a
super bargain.

This is my opinion only, and I am in no way affiliated with the store
that sells them.

robo hippy

Sadly, I am finding this to be the case with many of my tools. I am
not so sure anymore that the money I pay for "industrial quality" or
"professional grade" is worth the 5X price difference.

Especially for something like a sander. All it needs to do is go round
and round.

I just bought a grinder (same quality no doubt) for shop use that is a
4 1/2 all ball bearing tool with side handle and metal guard. It was
$19.99. At the counter, the checker asked me if I wanted the 1 year in
store replacement warranty for $5.

I am remembering how much I paid for some of my tools that died out on
the job when they were about six months old....

I would not buy one of those nasty routers they sell for finish work,
but some of the cheap sanders, grinders, hammers, etc. have their place
in the shop now.

Robert

wrote:

I would not buy one of those nasty routers they sell for finish work,
but some of the cheap sanders, grinders, hammers, etc. have their place
in the shop now.



I bought a Makita 3612 plunge router knockoff for $24.00 - seems to be ok,
but needed some tune up. Definitely not recommended as a First router. BTW,
the box smells like used motor oil and old urine. If you have dogs or cats,
you want to take the box DIRECTLY to the trash can, do Not bring it through
the house - DAMHIKT! Got it at tngdirect.com . They now have a 4" angle
grinder for $5 - beats even Harbor Fright.

On 20 Oct 2005 08:43:53 -0700, "robo hippy" wrote:

There was a posting about angle drills in August, and Ted mentioned an
angle drill from JM Tools in Riverside, CA. Being totally skeptical (I
mean how could they make a drill that sells for 1/5 the cost) that it
could even come close to the Sioux/Milwaukee angle drills, I figured
that what the heck, for $30, I couldn't go wrong. Worst case scenario
would be that I would get a few days out of it, and it would be fried.
I burn out one or two sets of bearings on my S/M per year. It runs me
$70 or so to get them repaired. I also sand with 3 inch discs which
will put a lot of stress on a 'drill' that isn't intended for use as a
grinder. I am generally hard on my tools, prefering ones that will
stand a lot of use and abuse.

When the drill arrived the first thing that I niticed was that the
joint where the halves of the casing came together showed a slight(1/32
inch) gap. The vent holes on the case are curved rather that straight
as on the S/M drills. The chuck is slightly different. When I plugged
it in and fired it up, I found out that it is the slower speed model,
rather that the high speed model that I normally use. I have, and use
both. I now have about 40 hours on the cheap drill, and it shows no
signs of wearing down. Did I say that I am hard on my tools? With the
way this tool performs, I can see no reason to buy or repair the S/M
drills again. I will post when I finally burn this one up. If it lasts
through Christmas, as I would expect the S/M drills to do, it will be a
super bargain.

This is my opinion only, and I am in no way affiliated with the store
that sells them.

robo hippy

After the same thread, I bought a "1/4 close quarter drill" on ebay...
It's larger than I expected, but I have never used the Milwaukee, so I have
nothing to compare it with..

I also am hard on these, overheating velcro is my specialty and I sand a LOT of
bowls....
I've had it for maybe 3 months now and have done no maintenance to it, except
hitting it with the shop vac hose when I'm cleaning the lathe... it seems to run
as well as ever, not get hot and does the job I need it to...

My thought when buying it was that I could buy 4 of these for the price of a
Milwaukee, and since I don't blow out my drills or sanders or do any
maintenance, a throw-away drill was the way to go... so far, it looks like a
keeper...
Not sure, but I think the total price with shipping (I'm impatient and do "buy
it now") was about 29 or $30 US...


mac

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I bought one of the cheapys off e-bay a couple years ago. It's still
going strong. I, too. expected it to burn up real quick. I just wanted
to find out if I really wanted one... but this one continues to run and
run.
Earl

I don't get it - for your purposes, why don't you buy a pneumatic angle
drill and be done with it - they will outlast an electric drill in this
application, are cheaper, and run cool?


"mac davis" wrote in message
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On 20 Oct 2005 08:43:53 -0700, "robo hippy" wrote:

There was a posting about angle drills in August, and Ted mentioned an
angle drill from JM Tools in Riverside, CA. Being totally skeptical (I
mean how could they make a drill that sells for 1/5 the cost) that it
could even come close to the Sioux/Milwaukee angle drills, I figured
that what the heck, for $30, I couldn't go wrong.

"william_b_noble" wrote in message
news:1130083674.021a727b0616742afd505f2b45304be9@t eranews...
I don't get it - for your purposes, why don't you buy a pneumatic angle
drill and be done with it - they will outlast an electric drill in this
application, are cheaper, and run cool?


Of course, there is the small cost of a large-capacity compressor to
consider....

Still like the flex shaft on mine.

Actually,I do have a Sioux pneumatic angle drill, and it works fine,
but the occasional water drips, and air hose are a bit of a hastle. The
speed control is way more sensitive than the electric drills. It does
work well, and I need to spend more time with it.
robo hippy

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:22:37 -0400, "George" George@least wrote:


"william_b_noble" wrote in message
news:1130083674.021a727b0616742afd505f2b45304be9@ teranews...
I don't get it - for your purposes, why don't you buy a pneumatic angle
drill and be done with it - they will outlast an electric drill in this
application, are cheaper, and run cool?


Of course, there is the small cost of a large-capacity compressor to
consider....

Still like the flex shaft on mine.

and the noise of the compressor... if I could afford a really quiet one, I'd use
more air tools..
gotta respect the neighbors while I'm still living here..


mac

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