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Keith Young June 20th 05 09:10 AM

Tool Rest tightening
 
Hi
Me Again

I have a really old Record lathe. I can never get the tool rest to tighten
properly. Actually it needs a tap with a hammer to do the trick, which
really peeves off an associate of mine. He suggested cutting the tool rest
holder with a hack saw to allieviate some of the holders strength, to allow
it to collaspse easier on the tool holders shaft. Shims wrapped around the
holders shaft don't do much either. Does anybody know a supplier for a new
tool rest holder for the Record lathe.Or any Workable suggestions.

Keith
Newfoundland



George June 20th 05 10:35 AM


"Keith Young" wrote in message
...
Hi
Me Again

I have a really old Record lathe. I can never get the tool rest to tighten
properly. Actually it needs a tap with a hammer to do the trick, which
really peeves off an associate of mine. He suggested cutting the tool rest
holder with a hack saw to allieviate some of the holders strength, to

allow
it to collaspse easier on the tool holders shaft. Shims wrapped around the
holders shaft don't do much either. Does anybody know a supplier for a new
tool rest holder for the Record lathe.Or any Workable suggestions.


Kerf cast iron? Not a good idea at all. Too brittle.

Now, knurling the steel shaft of the rest might provide a bit of grip if
undersized, or filing a small notch at the end of the screw that holds the
post. But don't modify cast iron.



Dave in Fairfax June 20th 05 01:22 PM

Keith Young wrote:
snip
Actually it needs a tap with a hammer to do the trick, which
really peeves off an associate of mine. He suggested cutting the tool rest
holder with a hack saw to allieviate some of the holders strength, to allow
it to collaspse easier on the tool holders shaft. Shims wrapped around the
holders shaft don't do much either.

snip

STOP IT! You're perpetuating a stereotype. %-) Figure out what is
causing the problem, really, and fix that.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.patinatools.com

Keith Young June 21st 05 09:59 AM

Not being mechanically inclined I will be off to a machine shop soon.

Keith
"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message
...
Keith Young wrote:
snip
Actually it needs a tap with a hammer to do the trick, which
really peeves off an associate of mine. He suggested cutting the tool
rest
holder with a hack saw to allieviate some of the holders strength, to
allow
it to collaspse easier on the tool holders shaft. Shims wrapped around
the
holders shaft don't do much either.

snip

STOP IT! You're perpetuating a stereotype. %-) Figure out what is
causing the problem, really, and fix that.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.patinatools.com




Prometheus June 21st 05 10:25 AM

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:40:29 -0230, "Keith Young"
wrote:

Hi
Me Again

I have a really old Record lathe. I can never get the tool rest to tighten
properly. Actually it needs a tap with a hammer to do the trick, which
really peeves off an associate of mine. He suggested cutting the tool rest
holder with a hack saw to allieviate some of the holders strength, to allow
it to collaspse easier on the tool holders shaft. Shims wrapped around the
holders shaft don't do much either. Does anybody know a supplier for a new
tool rest holder for the Record lathe.Or any Workable suggestions.


There is an adjustment bolt on the bottom of the banjo on my midi
lathe that can be tightened or loosened to adjust the amount of
pressure you need to use on the handle. Of course, sometimes I get a
little lazy if it gets vibrated out of adjustment, so I've got an 18"
(give or take) piece of glavanized electrical tubing left over from
another project that I slip over the handle and use as a cheater bar
untill I finish what I'm working on. It works great, and is a whole
lot easier on the tool than hitting it with a hammer. Same logic
applies for just about any bolt, IMO- a lot of guys at work like to
hammer on the machines, and then wonder why they break. Smooth,
steady pressure with a lever keeps your amount of force controlled,
and doesn't ding up your tools.





Keith Young June 21st 05 04:58 PM

Dave

Actually a proper machinist ( That is one who makes his living by that
trade ) fixed it. First he showed me that by repositioning the tightening
nut the tightening handle does not touch the rest. Then with a vise he
squeezed the holder a little so now it tightens nicely without a hammer.

Cheers
Keith
Newfoundland

Thanks for the sound advice. I,ve been years using a hammer.

"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message
...
Keith Young wrote:
snip
Actually it needs a tap with a hammer to do the trick, which
really peeves off an associate of mine. He suggested cutting the tool
rest
holder with a hack saw to allieviate some of the holders strength, to
allow
it to collaspse easier on the tool holders shaft. Shims wrapped around
the
holders shaft don't do much either.

snip

STOP IT! You're perpetuating a stereotype. %-) Figure out what is
causing the problem, really, and fix that.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.patinatools.com




Dave in Fairfax June 21st 05 07:13 PM

Keith Young wrote:
Actually a proper machinist ( That is one who makes his living by that
trade ) fixed it. First he showed me that by repositioning the tightening
nut the tightening handle does not touch the rest. Then with a vise he
squeezed the holder a little so now it tightens nicely without a hammer.
Cheers
Keith
Newfoundland


Glad to hear it. I've used a hammer for years as well, but I prefer not
to tighten with it. %-) Should be starting to warm up and get real
pretty up your way. Nice place, good seafood.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.patinatools.com

Jo-Anne & Edward Tabachek June 21st 05 08:12 PM

Shows you that a hammer is useful to solve all sorts of little problems.

Also try a nylon washer under the tightening handle will allow it to snug up
tighter with less friction.

Edward



Keith Young June 22nd 05 09:57 AM

Yup

Typical June for this part of the world. Seafood! Well if you can afford
it!. We went out on our wedding anniversity and bought chinese food. The
chicken in the SOO GUY was paper thin and we informed them that we feed our
dog better food than that.

Take Care
Keith
And thanks for the inspiration to find out what was really wrong with the
tool rest.Sometimes we get stuck in a rut and need good advice.


"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message
...
Keith Young wrote:
Actually a proper machinist ( That is one who makes his living by that
trade ) fixed it. First he showed me that by repositioning the tightening
nut the tightening handle does not touch the rest. Then with a vise he
squeezed the holder a little so now it tightens nicely without a hammer.
Cheers
Keith
Newfoundland


Glad to hear it. I've used a hammer for years as well, but I prefer not
to tighten with it. %-) Should be starting to warm up and get real
pretty up your way. Nice place, good seafood.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.patinatools.com




Keith Young June 22nd 05 10:01 AM

Thanks really good idea

Keith
Newfoundland

"Jo-Anne & Edward Tabachek" wrote in message
...
Shows you that a hammer is useful to solve all sorts of little problems.

Also try a nylon washer under the tightening handle will allow it to snug
up tighter with less friction.

Edward




Keith Young June 22nd 05 10:02 AM

Thanks!

Never thought of the Pipe idea. Good suggestion.

Keith
Newfoundland

"Prometheus" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:40:29 -0230, "Keith Young"
wrote:

Hi
Me Again

I have a really old Record lathe. I can never get the tool rest to tighten
properly. Actually it needs a tap with a hammer to do the trick, which
really peeves off an associate of mine. He suggested cutting the tool rest
holder with a hack saw to allieviate some of the holders strength, to
allow
it to collaspse easier on the tool holders shaft. Shims wrapped around the
holders shaft don't do much either. Does anybody know a supplier for a new
tool rest holder for the Record lathe.Or any Workable suggestions.


There is an adjustment bolt on the bottom of the banjo on my midi
lathe that can be tightened or loosened to adjust the amount of
pressure you need to use on the handle. Of course, sometimes I get a
little lazy if it gets vibrated out of adjustment, so I've got an 18"
(give or take) piece of glavanized electrical tubing left over from
another project that I slip over the handle and use as a cheater bar
untill I finish what I'm working on. It works great, and is a whole
lot easier on the tool than hitting it with a hammer. Same logic
applies for just about any bolt, IMO- a lot of guys at work like to
hammer on the machines, and then wonder why they break. Smooth,
steady pressure with a lever keeps your amount of force controlled,
and doesn't ding up your tools.







Keith Young June 22nd 05 02:26 PM

As as far as the weather goes, thats something we really don,t care about.
The sun doesn,t shine in my shed. Thank God!

Keith
Newfoundland

"Keith Young" wrote in message
...
Yup

Typical June for this part of the world. Seafood! Well if you can afford
it!. We went out on our wedding anniversity and bought chinese food. The
chicken in the SOO GUY was paper thin and we informed them that we feed
our dog better food than that.

Take Care
Keith
And thanks for the inspiration to find out what was really wrong with the
tool rest.Sometimes we get stuck in a rut and need good advice.


"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message
...
Keith Young wrote:
Actually a proper machinist ( That is one who makes his living by that
trade ) fixed it. First he showed me that by repositioning the
tightening
nut the tightening handle does not touch the rest. Then with a vise he
squeezed the holder a little so now it tightens nicely without a hammer.
Cheers
Keith
Newfoundland


Glad to hear it. I've used a hammer for years as well, but I prefer not
to tighten with it. %-) Should be starting to warm up and get real
pretty up your way. Nice place, good seafood.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.patinatools.com







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