I am looking at a Craftsman lathe model # 113.228000C that a guy wants to
sell for $200 Canadian (about $150 US). It is on a stand and comes with
Craftsman chisels of unknown quality.

I am not really in the market for a lathe just yet but if this is a
real bargain I wouldn't want to miss it!

Any thoughts and opinions welcome.

Best Regards,
Jack Fearnley

"Jack Fearnley" wrote: I am looking at a Craftsman lathe model #
113.228000C (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It would help if you gave us a physical description of the lathe. Most of
us have seen the various Craftsman models, but few remember the model
numbers by heart.

Leo Lichtman wrote:


"Jack Fearnley" wrote: I am looking at a Craftsman lathe model #
113.228000C (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It would help if you gave us a physical description of the lathe. Most of
us have seen the various Craftsman models, but few remember the model
numbers by heart.

I don't know much about lathes. This model dates from 1989 according to
Sears. It takes 36" length and up to 12" diameter. Speed is changed by
moving the belt on different pulleys. It seems pretty rugged.

As I said, at $200 Canadian it might be to good to pass up even though I am
racking my brains on where to put it if I get it.

Best Regards,
Jack Fearnley

I'll let the "Craftsman" experts answer your question on the lathe, but
I WILL BET YOU that the tools are carbon steel, not HSS, in MHO JUNK!

The other Bruce
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Jack Fearnley wrote:
Leo Lichtman wrote:


"Jack Fearnley" wrote: I am looking at a Craftsman lathe model #
113.228000C (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It would help if you gave us a physical description of the lathe. Most of
us have seen the various Craftsman models, but few remember the model
numbers by heart.

I don't know much about lathes. This model dates from 1989 according to
Sears. It takes 36" length and up to 12" diameter. Speed is changed by
moving the belt on different pulleys. It seems pretty rugged.

As I said, at $200 Canadian it might be to good to pass up even though I am
racking my brains on where to put it if I get it.

Best Regards,
Jack Fearnley

On Fri, 27 May 2005 17:31:12 -0400, Jack Fearnley wrote:

Leo Lichtman wrote:


"Jack Fearnley" wrote: I am looking at a Craftsman lathe model #
113.228000C (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It would help if you gave us a physical description of the lathe. Most of
us have seen the various Craftsman models, but few remember the model
numbers by heart.

I don't know much about lathes. This model dates from 1989 according to
Sears. It takes 36" length and up to 12" diameter. Speed is changed by
moving the belt on different pulleys. It seems pretty rugged.

As I said, at $200 Canadian it might be to good to pass up even though I am
racking my brains on where to put it if I get it.

Best Regards,
Jack Fearnley

What you are looking at is very similar to the older Craftsman Monotube. Mine
is quite a bit older than 1999, but I only paid $75.00US for it, along with
tools and a couple of centers.

I built a very heavy wooden bench for it and have turned out some fairly nice
work (according to my wife and my mother). :-)

____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA

wrote in message
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I'll let the "Craftsman" experts answer your question on the lathe, but
I WILL BET YOU that the tools are carbon steel, not HSS, in MHO JUNK!


Opinions differ. Carbon steel still makes the finishing passes at my house.
Of course I don't turn at tang-breaking, steel annealing speeds, either. I
learned that tool presentation trumps power in getting a good surface.

I finally got a lead on some new carbon tools, which is good, as a couple of
my former 6" gouges now look more like teaspoons.

George wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

I'll let the "Craftsman" experts answer your question on the lathe, but
I WILL BET YOU that the tools are carbon steel, not HSS, in MHO JUNK!



Opinions differ. Carbon steel still makes the finishing passes at my house.
Of course I don't turn at tang-breaking, steel annealing speeds, either. I
learned that tool presentation trumps power in getting a good surface.


Have to agree with you. I want a set of M2 HSS tools and all I have now
is Carbon Steel -- but I turned some poplar and got tiny curly shavings
off the finishing pass. Thought it was sawdust till I looked closely.
The skew was doing what it should do -- working like a plane. :-)


I finally got a lead on some new carbon tools, which is good, as a couple of
my former 6" gouges now look more like teaspoons.







--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

That lathe description sounds familiar. I may have the same one sitting,
unused, in the back shop. As long as everything is running true and the
motor is ok, it'll do fine for most turning that does not require great
power. The stand takes up quite a bit of room but it's worth about a hundred
bucks if you were you to buy it separately. I have no opinion about the
tools.

fwiw, Tom

"Jack Fearnley" wrote in message
...
Leo Lichtman wrote:


"Jack Fearnley" wrote: I am looking at a Craftsman lathe model #
113.228000C (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It would help if you gave us a physical description of the lathe. Most
of
us have seen the various Craftsman models, but few remember the model
numbers by heart.

I don't know much about lathes. This model dates from 1989 according to
Sears. It takes 36" length and up to 12" diameter. Speed is changed by
moving the belt on different pulleys. It seems pretty rugged.

As I said, at $200 Canadian it might be to good to pass up even though I
am
racking my brains on where to put it if I get it.

Best Regards,
Jack Fearnley

Hi Bruce the other, I agree that for most woodturning applications HSS
is superior, but I'm not sure that hi-carbon is junk, if you mean
worthless. RCW's been over this before, but Hi Carbon still has some
uses. I tell my wife that if I spent the money and shop time on my Dodge
PU as she does on her Beamer, the old bucket of bolts would outlast the
BMW. R&D and promotion of carbon steel tools virtually ceased in the
80's, which partially explains their demise. Maybe not.


Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter



http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

Guess I should have been more specific, Arch. I still use a couple of
carbon steel spindle gouges, at slower speed and for softer woods, but
for higher speeds, which I feel gives me a better finish, and harder
woods, the HSS's edge last a lot longer, without re-grinding or honing.

Again, MHO-------You're always welcome to have yours.

The Other Bruce
================================================== ============

Arch wrote:
Hi Bruce the other, I agree that for most woodturning applications HSS
is superior, but I'm not sure that hi-carbon is junk, if you mean
worthless. RCW's been over this before, but Hi Carbon still has some
uses. I tell my wife that if I spent the money and shop time on my Dodge
PU as she does on her Beamer, the old bucket of bolts would outlast the
BMW. R&D and promotion of carbon steel tools virtually ceased in the
80's, which partially explains their demise. Maybe not.


Turn to Safety, Arch
Fortiter



http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

Tom Storey wrote:

That lathe description sounds familiar. I may have the same one sitting,
unused, in the back shop. As long as everything is running true and the
motor is ok, it'll do fine for most turning that does not require great
power. The stand takes up quite a bit of room but it's worth about a
hundred bucks if you were you to buy it separately. I have no opinion
about the tools.

fwiw, Tom



Thanks to all for the prompt feedback. I have decided against the purchase.
When I am ready for it I'll buy a decent lathe and learn properly on it.

Best Regards,
Jack Fearnley

wrote:
: I'll let the "Craftsman" experts answer your question on the lathe, but
: I WILL BET YOU that the tools are carbon steel, not HSS, in MHO JUNK!


Carbon steel tools will hold a sharper edge than HSS does. For finishing
cuts, Carbon steel is superior --

- Andy Barss

"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
wrote:
: I'll let the "Craftsman" experts answer your question on the lathe, but
: I WILL BET YOU that the tools are carbon steel, not HSS, in MHO JUNK!


Carbon steel tools will hold a sharper edge than HSS does. For finishing
cuts, Carbon steel is superior --

- Andy Barss


If I took my final cuts with carbon steel and did --NOT-- have to sand
after it would make a difference Andy. Guess I will have to keep using my
overpriced inferior HSS tools.... :-) -------- That's a smillie in
case this is misinterpreted.....!

--

Regards,
M.J. (Mike) Orr
www.island.net/~morr