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Tim Lamb March 27th 05 11:37 AM

Silicone bath seal
 
Could someone kindly direct me to the FAQ or give a uk.d-i-y potted
version of how to bond sealant to acrylic bath and shower bases?

regards
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Tim Lamb

Lobster March 27th 05 01:15 PM

Tim Lamb wrote:
Could someone kindly direct me to the FAQ or give a uk.d-i-y potted


http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/decorating.html#silicone

David

Andrew McKay March 27th 05 02:18 PM

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:15:26 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

Could someone kindly direct me to the FAQ or give a uk.d-i-y potted


http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/decorating.html#silicone


Interesting that the advice given is "whatever you do, don't use a wet
finger".

That's the method I use without problem, as recommended to me by
several plumbing professionals.

The secret I've found is to squeeze a fairly narrow bead, then the wet
finger works fine. Too fat a bead and it squeegies around the edges of
the finger and makes a mess.

Andrew

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[news] March 27th 05 03:13 PM

Andrew McKay wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:15:26 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

Could someone kindly direct me to the FAQ or give a uk.d-i-y potted


http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/decorating.html#silicone


Interesting that the advice given is "whatever you do, don't use a wet
finger".

That's the method I use without problem, as recommended to me by
several plumbing professionals.

The secret I've found is to squeeze a fairly narrow bead, then the wet
finger works fine. Too fat a bead and it squeegies around the edges of
the finger and makes a mess.

Andrew


ah, but which way do you use the gun ? forwards or backwards ?

if done properly, forwards, there's hardly ever a need for any finishing.



RT



Andrew McKay March 27th 05 06:59 PM

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:13:16 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

ah, but which way do you use the gun ? forwards or backwards ?

if done properly, forwards, there's hardly ever a need for any finishing.


Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean.

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simon beer March 27th 05 07:29 PM



"Andrew McKay" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:13:16 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

ah, but which way do you use the gun ? forwards or backwards ?

if done properly, forwards, there's hardly ever a need for any finishing.


Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean.


Do you push the gun forward with the nozzle up the front end or do you
drag the gun backwards with the nozzle trailing

I must admit that I let the nozzle trail and then use a finger. I have seen
the gun pushed but with the limited amount of use I get from mine, and I
guess most people just around the house, have never perfected the forward
motion. I tend to stick with what I can make look the best!



[news] March 27th 05 07:49 PM

Andrew McKay wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:13:16 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

ah, but which way do you use the gun ? forwards or backwards ?

if done properly, forwards, there's hardly ever a need for any finishing.


Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean.

Andrew


if you are /filling/ a void

cut the nozzle to the correct diameter for the gap

squeeze the trigger on the gun whilst pushing forwards

said tube-gak forces it's self into the void and finishes it's self off

if you are /laying/ a bead of tube-gak instead of filling then pulling the gun
backwards means you're better able to judge the size of the bead



RT



Rob Morley March 27th 05 07:55 PM

In article , "[news]"
says...
Andrew McKay wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:13:16 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

ah, but which way do you use the gun ? forwards or backwards ?

if done properly, forwards, there's hardly ever a need for any finishing.


Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean.

Andrew


if you are /filling/ a void

cut the nozzle to the correct diameter for the gap

squeeze the trigger on the gun whilst pushing forwards

said tube-gak forces it's self into the void and finishes it's self off

if you are /laying/ a bead of tube-gak instead of filling then pulling the gun
backwards means you're better able to judge the size of the bead

If you're pushing you don't need to "judge the size of the bead", you
just push/squeeze smoothly at the right speed so there's always a
slight ripple of goop ahead of the nozzle but not enough to escape
sideways.

[news] March 27th 05 08:03 PM

Rob Morley wrote:
In article , "[news]"
says...
Andrew McKay wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:13:16 GMT, "[news]" wrote:

ah, but which way do you use the gun ? forwards or backwards ?

if done properly, forwards, there's hardly ever a need for any finishing.

Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean.

Andrew


if you are /filling/ a void

cut the nozzle to the correct diameter for the gap

squeeze the trigger on the gun whilst pushing forwards

said tube-gak forces it's self into the void and finishes it's self off

if you are /laying/ a bead of tube-gak instead of filling then pulling the gun
backwards means you're better able to judge the size of the bead

If you're pushing you don't need to "judge the size of the bead"


is what I said. as long as you /either/ modulate the pressure on the trigger
and cut the nozzle to the right size you shouldn't need to 'finish off'

whatever works for you.



RT



Tim Lamb March 28th 05 12:38 AM

In article , Lobster davidlobst
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:
Could someone kindly direct me to the FAQ or give a uk.d-i-y potted


http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/decorating.html#silicone

Thanks.

It doesn't mention filling the bath first to take up any movement in the
supporting floor:-)

I haven't tried meths as a pre clean but wondered if something more
aggressive was available to give a real bond.

A visitor used our shower recently and a few drops of water came through
the ceiling. The only fault I can find is that it is possible to insert
a knife blade between the shower base and the seal.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

[news] March 28th 05 10:06 AM

Tim Lamb wrote:
In article , Lobster davidlobst
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:
Could someone kindly direct me to the FAQ or give a uk.d-i-y potted


http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/decorating.html#silicone

Thanks.

It doesn't mention filling the bath first to take up any movement in the
supporting floor:-)

I haven't tried meths as a pre clean but wondered if something more
aggressive was available to give a real bond.

A visitor used our shower recently and a few drops of water came through
the ceiling. The only fault I can find is that it is possible to insert
a knife blade between the shower base and the seal.

regards


clean it out and install teleseal http://www.teleseal.co.uk/



RT




John March 28th 05 10:31 AM


"Lobster" wrote in message
...
Tim Lamb wrote:
Could someone kindly direct me to the FAQ or give a uk.d-i-y potted


http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/decorating.html#silicone

David


I believe a key issue is to minimise any bath movement by careful adjustment
of the feet. Get this right and the sealing is better able to cope.

Any thoughts on using 2 layers? - one really injected deep through a small
nozzle - then finishing later with a larger nozzle?




Jeff March 28th 05 01:18 PM


[news] wrote :-

clean it out and install teleseal http://www.teleseal.co.uk/


Thanks for that , have saved details for the future, got upstands on my
shower tray so I don't need it at the moment but no doubt will in the future

Regards Jeff



Richard March 28th 05 01:49 PM

[news] wrote:



clean it out and install teleseal http://www.teleseal.co.uk/



RT




Looks promising but doesn't appear to cope with leaking between the
bottom of the shower cabinet and the tray. Nor, I suspect, leaking
between the shower cabinet and tiled wall junction.

But then what can cope with a pumped shower with a head of approx. 40'?

Rgds (and TIA!)

Richard




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[news] March 28th 05 01:59 PM

Richard wrote:
[news] wrote:



clean it out and install teleseal http://www.teleseal.co.uk/



RT




Looks promising but doesn't appear to cope with leaking between the
bottom of the shower cabinet and the tray. Nor, I suspect, leaking
between the shower cabinet and tiled wall junction.


there's also a modern solution to that old chesnut but it's of no use to you now as
you've already got the tray and enclosure. for future reference have a look at the
coram waterguard showertray http://tinyurl.com/5q4h3 which apart from offering
a lifetime waterproof guarantee also does away with all the 'set tray in a bed of mortar'
nonsense, they're a pleasure to install even as a one man job.

HtH


RT





Richard March 28th 05 09:12 PM

[news] wrote:


there's also a modern solution to that old chesnut but it's of no use to you now as
you've already got the tray and enclosure. for future reference have a look at the
coram waterguard showertray http://tinyurl.com/5q4h3 which apart from offering
a lifetime waterproof guarantee also does away with all the 'set tray in a bed of mortar'
nonsense, they're a pleasure to install even as a one man job.

HtH


RT






sigh !

Ta

Richard

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