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Sparks June 9th 04 04:14 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
I am looking for some cable for my irrigation system project (See earlier
post!)

It is to control various 12v 4w electric valves - the stuff BT use would be
ideal I think!

4 pairs or above would be the sort of think I am after (The more the better
really, or I will have to do more runs!)

Anyone know of a good [cheap!] place (I am in Kent)

Thanks!

Sparks...



NewsGroups June 9th 04 04:16 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 

"Sparks" wrote in message
.. .
I am looking for some cable for my irrigation system project (See earlier
post!)

It is to control various 12v 4w electric valves - the stuff BT use would

be
ideal I think!

4 pairs or above would be the sort of think I am after (The more the

better
really, or I will have to do more runs!)

Anyone know of a good [cheap!] place (I am in Kent)

Thanks!

Sparks...


Why not use standard phone cable, as it is only low voltage. This should
have at least 4 wires

S



Sparks June 9th 04 04:22 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 

Why not use standard phone cable, as it is only low voltage. This
should have at least 4 wires

S


Standard phone cable, ad in the "normal" white stuff used when wiring
extensions in the house?
If this is what you mean, I am not sure it would be wise to bury this!
If you mean stuff made for burying, where do I get it from (I don't know any
BT engineers!)

Sparks...



Ric June 9th 04 04:37 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
"Sparks" wrote in message
.. .

Why not use standard phone cable, as it is only low voltage. This
should have at least 4 wires

S


Standard phone cable, ad in the "normal" white stuff used when wiring
extensions in the house?
If this is what you mean, I am not sure it would be wise to bury this!
If you mean stuff made for burying, where do I get it from (I don't know

any
BT engineers!)

Sparks...

Is there any burglar alarm cable designed for burying? This would be
usefull as it generally comes in a variety of different number of wires.



Nick Brooks June 9th 04 04:46 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
Sparks wrote:
I am looking for some cable for my irrigation system project (See earlier
post!)

It is to control various 12v 4w electric valves - the stuff BT use would be
ideal I think!

4 pairs or above would be the sort of think I am after (The more the better
really, or I will have to do more runs!)

Anyone know of a good [cheap!] place (I am in Kent)

Thanks!

Sparks...


Not cheap but . . . . .
http://www.homestead.co.uk/tcjfa5005b.htm


NB

NewsGroups June 9th 04 04:49 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 

"Sparks" wrote in message
.. .

Why not use standard phone cable, as it is only low voltage. This
should have at least 4 wires

S


Standard phone cable, ad in the "normal" white stuff used when wiring
extensions in the house?
If this is what you mean, I am not sure it would be wise to bury this!
If you mean stuff made for burying, where do I get it from (I don't know

any
BT engineers!)

Sparks...


Use heavy duty conduit and put the cable in this. You can bury the cunduit
in the ground. Or what about metal piping to encase the cable.

S



Sparks June 9th 04 04:58 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 



Use heavy duty conduit and put the cable in this. You can bury the
cunduit in the ground. Or what about metal piping to encase the cable.


If I can avoid this, I want to, as it is more work, and more cost!

The cable will be buried next to MDPE water pipe anyway (Probably cable tied
to it), so it will be sort of protected!

Sparks...



Sparks June 9th 04 05:00 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 

Not cheap but . . . . .
http://www.homestead.co.uk/tcjfa5005b.htm


NB


I think the armour would be a bit OTT to be honest - I plan to run the cable
alongside the irrigation pipes
so http://www.homestead.co.uk/tcjf5005pb.htm would probably be ok!

Any idea if this will be happy with 12v @ 4w

Sparks...



Nick Brooks June 9th 04 05:13 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
Sparks wrote:
Not cheap but . . . . .
http://www.homestead.co.uk/tcjfa5005b.htm


NB



I think the armour would be a bit OTT to be honest - I plan to run the cable
alongside the irrigation pipes
so http://www.homestead.co.uk/tcjf5005pb.htm would probably be ok!

Any idea if this will be happy with 12v @ 4w

Sparks...


It'll depend on the length you need and the voltage drop you are
prepared to accept but even the 1/0.50mm stuff should be OK for 50W

NB

Nick Brooks June 9th 04 05:27 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
Nick Brooks wrote:
Sparks wrote:

Not cheap but . . . . .
http://www.homestead.co.uk/tcjfa5005b.htm


NB




I think the armour would be a bit OTT to be honest - I plan to run the
cable
alongside the irrigation pipes
so http://www.homestead.co.uk/tcjf5005pb.htm would probably be ok!

Any idea if this will be happy with 12v @ 4w

Sparks...


It'll depend on the length you need and the voltage drop you are
prepared to accept but even the 1/0.50mm stuff should be OK for 50W

NB


Just re-read this and realised you said 4w not 4v so you'll only be
using tiny currents



fred bloggs June 9th 04 05:54 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 

"Sparks" wrote in message
.. .
I am looking for some cable for my irrigation system project (See earlier
post!)

It is to control various 12v 4w electric valves - the stuff BT use would

be
ideal I think!

4 pairs or above would be the sort of think I am after (The more the

better
really, or I will have to do more runs!)

Anyone know of a good [cheap!] place (I am in Kent)

Thanks!

Sparks...

How about using CAT5 cable?

Mike



tony sayer June 9th 04 05:58 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
In article , fred bloggs
writes

"Sparks" wrote in message
. ..
I am looking for some cable for my irrigation system project (See earlier
post!)

It is to control various 12v 4w electric valves - the stuff BT use would

be
ideal I think!

4 pairs or above would be the sort of think I am after (The more the

better
really, or I will have to do more runs!)

Anyone know of a good [cheap!] place (I am in Kent)

Thanks!

Sparks...

How about using CAT5 cable?

Mike



We've had some old phone type cable buried for some 20 odd years and its
still fine..

Except when we dug it up by mistake but the outer covering was as good
as ever:)
--
Tony Sayer


Owain June 9th 04 07:55 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
"Sparks" wrote
| It is to control various 12v 4w electric valves - the stuff BT use
| would be ideal I think!
| 4 pairs or above would be the sort of think I am after (The more
| the better really, or I will have to do more runs!)
| Anyone know of a good [cheap!] place (I am in Kent)

For direct burial you really need jelly-filled cable, which will not be
cheap, especially if you are buying it by the metre.

You could try http://www.comtec-comms.com/ (I'm writing offline so can't
check that URL is still okay) but the best way is probably to wave some beer
vouchers under the nose of an exterior cable installer, BT or one of their
subcontractors (eg Fujitsu)

Owain



G&M June 9th 04 09:17 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 

"Sparks" wrote in message
.. .
I am looking for some cable for my irrigation system project (See earlier
post!)

It is to control various 12v 4w electric valves - the stuff BT use would

be
ideal I think!

4 pairs or above would be the sort of think I am after (The more the

better
really, or I will have to do more runs!)

Anyone know of a good [cheap!] place (I am in Kent)


Maplin have a variety of suitable cables. Don't know where they are in Kent
but can't believe they're not there somewhere.



dave @ stejonda June 10th 04 07:22 AM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
In message , G&M
writes
Maplin have a variety of suitable cables. Don't know where they are in
Kent but can't believe they're not there somewhere.


Depends which part of Kent! The nearest Maplin to me is at the junction
of the A20 and the South Circular. Other than that, they're in Chatham,
Maidstone & Westcliff-on-Sea (W-onS !!!).

--
dave @ stejonda

Bring Performance Channel back to NTL.
http://www.performance-channel.com/
Ring 0800 052 2000


The Natural Philosopher June 10th 04 08:47 AM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
Sparks wrote:

Why not use standard phone cable, as it is only low voltage. This
should have at least 4 wires

S



Standard phone cable, ad in the "normal" white stuff used when wiring
extensions in the house?
If this is what you mean, I am not sure it would be wise to bury this!
If you mean stuff made for burying, where do I get it from (I don't know any
BT engineers!)


Buery it in a bit of plastic 15mm water pipe and eakl teh ends with
expaniding foam.

Probably cheaper than buying armored underground cable, if its all for
very low power...

Sparks...




Mary Hinge June 10th 04 02:00 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message ...

Depends which part of Kent! The nearest Maplin to me is at the junction
of the A20 and the South Circular. Other than that, they're in Chatham,
Maidstone & Westcliff-on-Sea (W-onS !!!).


Not forgetting Bromley and Thurrock Retail Park.

MH

dave @ stejonda June 10th 04 02:29 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
In message , Mary Hinge
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...

Depends which part of Kent! The nearest Maplin to me is at the junction
of the A20 and the South Circular. Other than that, they're in Chatham,
Maidstone & Westcliff-on-Sea (W-onS !!!).


Not forgetting Bromley


Bromley??? - where???

and Thurrock Retail Park.

eeek - tunnel & bridge syndrome!


--
dave @ stejonda

Bring Performance Channel back to NTL.
http://www.performance-channel.com/
Ring 0800 052 2000


dave @ stejonda June 10th 04 03:12 PM

low voltage cable for burial?
 
In message , "dave @ stejonda"
writes
Not forgetting Bromley


Bromley??? - where???


oh, there!!! - expensive to park in Bromley

--
dave @ tightarseinc


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