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Dave February 17th 05 09:10 PM

Electric Bill
 
My Mother was on a pre pay electricity meter from NPower. She then
changed to a quaterly bill. Her first quater was £ 150.00 pound this
quater her bill is £375.00 !!! this is a huge jump she has complained
to NPower about a possible faulty meter they have told her to keep a
daily log of readings from her digital meter. She has hardly any
eletrical items, she has a two bedroomed house. And a part from lights
and normal appliances such tv's dvd , fridge freezer washer and tumble
dryer which she uses infrequently. The only high comsumpsion items are
the imersion heater on timer and a 2kw oil filled radiator. she has
been keeping daily readings and the usage is as follows : Mon -Tue =
51 units Tue- Wed = 53 units. Is this normal domestic use or could it
be a faulty meter???? Thanks in anticipation.

Gary Cavie February 17th 05 09:25 PM

In article ,=20
says...
My Mother was on a pre pay electricity meter from NPower. She then
changed to a quaterly bill. Her first quater was =A3 150.00 pound this
quater her bill is =A3375.00 !!! this is a huge jump she has complained
to NPower about a possible faulty meter they have told her to keep a
daily log of readings from her digital meter. She has hardly any
eletrical items, she has a two bedroomed house. And a part from lights
and normal appliances such tv's dvd , fridge freezer washer and tumble
dryer which she uses infrequently. The only high comsumpsion items are
the imersion heater on timer and a 2kw oil filled radiator. she has
been keeping daily readings and the usage is as follows : Mon -Tue =3D
51 units Tue- Wed =3D 53 units. Is this normal domestic use or could it
be a faulty meter???? Thanks in anticipation. =20
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Using 51 units in a 24 hour period implies that the radiator and=20
immersion heater are on an awful lot - assuming 5kw for the two together,=
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that means they're both active for 10 hours (OK, assuming that there is=20
sod-all draw from the rest of the house). If it is a dual rate meter,=20
have you checked that the immersion timer is set for overnight only, and=20
that the time on the timer is correct? There's probably not a lot you can=
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do about the radiator - after all, if she's cold, she needs it on.=20

For our house, the average quarterly bill is about =A3300, which includes=
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washing machine and tumble dryer which seem to be going 24/7, dishwasher,=
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heater in shed (on 24/7), TV on all the bloody time, lights left on all=20
over the damn place, grrr, grumble, mumble. That's for two adults and 3=20
kids. Sounds as though there may be something awry round your mum's.

Just my first thoughts on reading this - no doubt there are other=20
explanations!


Colin Wilson February 17th 05 10:12 PM

My Mother was on a pre pay electricity meter from NPower. She then
changed to a quaterly bill. Her first quater was =A3 150.00 pound this
quater her bill is =A3375.00 !!!
Is this normal domestic use or could it be a faulty meter????


While it *may* be a faulty meter, it may well be faulty billing.

Was her meter changed when she went from pre-payment to quarterly ? - it=20
may something as simple as they haven`t recorded the meter change=20
correctly.

It may also be a case of meter reader error (i`ve known readings to bear=20
absolutely no resemblance to actual), so if possible, try to figure out=20
from previous bills what the usage *really* is.

You may also find that as a pre-payment customer she may have already=20
overpaid what was used* as many meters are set to collect at a rate=20
higher than the true cost per unit - its well worth getting out as large=20
a heap of old bills as possible and working them out.

*they also have a daily fee recovery setting to cover the standing=20
charge, which will rack up even if the property is empty

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Dave Jones February 17th 05 10:13 PM


"Dave" wrote in message
...
My Mother was on a pre pay electricity meter from NPower. She then
changed to a quaterly bill. Her first quater was £ 150.00 pound this
quater her bill is £375.00 !!! this is a huge jump she has complained
to NPower about a possible faulty meter they have told her to keep a
daily log of readings from her digital meter. She has hardly any
eletrical items, she has a two bedroomed house. And a part from lights
and normal appliances such tv's dvd , fridge freezer washer and tumble
dryer which she uses infrequently. The only high comsumpsion items are
the imersion heater on timer and a 2kw oil filled radiator. she has
been keeping daily readings and the usage is as follows : Mon -Tue =
51 units Tue- Wed = 53 units. Is this normal domestic use or could it
be a faulty meter???? Thanks in anticipation.


Might be a faulty thermostat in the immersion, check the water temp, if
boiling change thermostat.




Dave Liquorice February 17th 05 11:53 PM

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:10:09 GMT, Dave wrote:

The only high comsumpsion items are the imersion heater on timer and
a 2kw oil filled radiator. she has been keeping daily readings and
the usage is as follows : Mon -Tue = 51 units Tue- Wed = 53 units.
Is this normal domestic use or could it be a faulty meter????


50+units a day is rather high thats an *average* consumption of 2kW.
We don't do any space or bulk water heating by electricty but do cook
by it and someone is home with lights and 'puters everyday. We use
just over 20units/day...

Others have already posted what it might be worth checking, but if
that heater is on for say 14hrs (0800 to 2200) thats 28 units assuming
it doesn't have a thermosat or the thermostat is working or hasn't
been wound flat out (quite likely).

Not sure how much a immersion would take couple of hours at 3kW so 6
more = 34 so still 20 to go. Around 10 could be allocated to fridges,
freezers, TV, lights etc, maybe it is a real consumption figure...
B-(

Of course this is a winter quarter so the bills will be higher but
double does seem a rather big jump. Not sure what benefits are
available for the eldery to help with heating, it's not be cold enough
long enough to trigger the winter payout but I think there are
benefits available for those on low incomes that don't require a long
cold spell.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




The Natural Philosopher February 18th 05 12:37 AM

Gary Cavie wrote:

In article ,
says...

My Mother was on a pre pay electricity meter from NPower. She then
changed to a quaterly bill. Her first quater was £ 150.00 pound this
quater her bill is £375.00 !!! this is a huge jump she has complained
to NPower about a possible faulty meter they have told her to keep a
daily log of readings from her digital meter. She has hardly any
eletrical items, she has a two bedroomed house. And a part from lights
and normal appliances such tv's dvd , fridge freezer washer and tumble
dryer which she uses infrequently. The only high comsumpsion items are
the imersion heater on timer and a 2kw oil filled radiator. she has
been keeping daily readings and the usage is as follows : Mon -Tue =
51 units Tue- Wed = 53 units. Is this normal domestic use or could it
be a faulty meter???? Thanks in anticipation.



Using 51 units in a 24 hour period implies that the radiator and
immersion heater are on an awful lot - assuming 5kw for the two together,
that means they're both active for 10 hours (OK, assuming that there is
sod-all draw from the rest of the house). If it is a dual rate meter,
have you checked that the immersion timer is set for overnight only, and
that the time on the timer is correct? There's probably not a lot you can
do about the radiator - after all, if she's cold, she needs it on.

For our house, the average quarterly bill is about £300, which includes
washing machine and tumble dryer which seem to be going 24/7, dishwasher,
heater in shed (on 24/7), TV on all the bloody time, lights left on all
over the damn place, grrr, grumble, mumble. That's for two adults and 3
kids. Sounds as though there may be something awry round your mum's.

Just my first thoughts on reading this - no doubt there are other
explanations!

I spent 600 quid a querter barely keeping an old cottage warm using
storage heaters.

[email protected] February 18th 05 04:28 AM

Dave wrote:
My Mother was on a pre pay electricity meter from NPower. She then
changed to a quaterly bill. Her first quater was =A3 150.00 pound this
quater her bill is =A3375.00 !!! this is a huge jump she has

complained
to NPower about a possible faulty meter they have told her to keep a
daily log of readings from her digital meter. She has hardly any
eletrical items, she has a two bedroomed house. And a part from

lights
and normal appliances such tv's dvd , fridge freezer washer and

tumble
dryer which she uses infrequently. The only high comsumpsion items

are
the imersion heater on timer and a 2kw oil filled radiator. she has
been keeping daily readings and the usage is as follows : Mon -Tue =3D
51 units Tue- Wed =3D 53 units. Is this normal domestic use or could it
be a faulty meter???? Thanks in anticipation.


While something might be wrong, in nearly all cases it is simply a
mismatch between consumer expcetation and real consumption.

NT


Gary Cavie February 18th 05 10:54 AM

In article , says...

I spent 600 quid a querter barely keeping an old cottage warm using
storage heaters.


Ouch!


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