No roof felt...is this normal?
 

Following the recent high winds I ventured up into the roof (for the first
time since moving in) to check for any damage. I was suprised to notice that
there isn't any roof felt, you can see straight on to the underside of the
tiles.

Is this normal? If so, is there anything I should be doing to keep the
weatherproofing in good condition? The slates appear to have been pointed at
some stage, but most of it has fallen off. Should I look at repointing the
inside of the roof?!

Cheers for any advice,
James

"James Amor" wrote in message
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Is this normal?

What age is the house ?

In message , James Amor
writes
Following the recent high winds I ventured up into the roof (for the first
time since moving in) to check for any damage. I was suprised to notice that
there isn't any roof felt, you can see straight on to the underside of the
tiles.

Is this normal?

for older houses yes. Not sure when they started using felt underneath
it, but our 30's semi didn't have any originally.

If so, is there anything I should be doing to keep the
weatherproofing in good condition?

Is there any evidence of problem.

The slates appear to have been pointed at
some stage, but most of it has fallen off. Should I look at repointing the
inside of the roof?!

Slates or tiles? Our old tiled roof was pointed (it'd had gone, but the
evidence was left all over the loft....). We had slate roof and that
wasn't - I'd have thought slates were too thin.

As to what to do. Well, if there is no evidence of water penetration I'd
not worry about it.
--
Chris French, Leeds

It is a tiled roof (terminology on my part!). There doesn't seem to be any
evidence of water penetration, but I though prevention mught be better than
cure!

Cheers for the info.


"chris French" wrote in message
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In message , James Amor
writes
Following the recent high winds I ventured up into the roof (for the
first
time since moving in) to check for any damage. I was suprised to notice
that
there isn't any roof felt, you can see straight on to the underside of
the
tiles.

Is this normal?

for older houses yes. Not sure when they started using felt underneath
it, but our 30's semi didn't have any originally.

If so, is there anything I should be doing to keep the
weatherproofing in good condition?

Is there any evidence of problem.

The slates appear to have been pointed at
some stage, but most of it has fallen off. Should I look at repointing
the
inside of the roof?!

Slates or tiles? Our old tiled roof was pointed (it'd had gone, but the
evidence was left all over the loft....). We had slate roof and that
wasn't - I'd have thought slates were too thin.

As to what to do. Well, if there is no evidence of water penetration I'd
not worry about it.
--
Chris French, Leeds

I reckon it is 20's - 30's (the girlfriends house...I'm just the lodger!)




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"James Amor" wrote in message
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Is this normal?

What age is the house ?

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:15:55 -0000, "James Amor"
wrote:

It is a tiled roof (terminology on my part!). There doesn't seem to be any
evidence of water penetration, but I though prevention mught be better than
cure!

Cheers for the info.


To put felt where it would be useful to prevent water penetration,
would involve taking the tiles off and the battens, laying felt, new
battens and the tiles. Not worth it unless there are problems.

Felt also reduces dirt penetration into the loft. You do want
ventilation though.

It may be useful to add insulation in the loft and to seal any
openings from inside the house into the loft.



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":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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"James Amor" wrote in message
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Is this normal?

What age is the house ?

probaly pre 1950 if there is no sarking felt

James Amor wrote:

Following the recent high winds I ventured up into the roof (for the first
time since moving in) to check for any damage. I was suprised to notice that
there isn't any roof felt, you can see straight on to the underside of the
tiles.

Is this normal? If so, is there anything I should be doing to keep the
weatherproofing in good condition? The slates appear to have been pointed at
some stage, but most of it has fallen off. Should I look at repointing the
inside of the roof?!

Roof felting is there to windprrof, not waterproof. The slates do that.

Its useful because it stops slates lifting in storms.

Its not necessary.

When the tie coes to re-roo, add felt. Not before. Waste of time and money.

Concentrate more on a decent insulation layer between or extremely cold
roof and the upstairs rooms. And draughtproofing it.



Cheers for any advice,
James

Christian McArdle wrote:

The important thing is to own some binoculars. Every couple of months,
or immediately after a storm, go outside and examine the tiles with the
binoculars.

And immediately after any fall of wind-driven powder snow, get up in the
loft with the wet vac - quick, before it melts into the insulation. Same
applies to horizontal gale-driven rain - oh dear, too late for the vac
anyway.

That is what prompted us to get the felting job done, several years
ago... and the general muck that was always blowing in... and the wasps'
nests... and the bats. It totally transformed the loft into a civilised,
dry storage space.


--
Ian White
Abingdon, England

In article , "Ian White"
says...
Christian McArdle wrote:

The important thing is to own some binoculars. Every couple of months,
or immediately after a storm, go outside and examine the tiles with the
binoculars.

And immediately after any fall of wind-driven powder snow, get up in the
loft with the wet vac - quick, before it melts into the insulation. Same
applies to horizontal gale-driven rain - oh dear, too late for the vac
anyway.

That is what prompted us to get the felting job done, several years
ago... and the general muck that was always blowing in... and the wasps'
nests... and the bats. It totally transformed the loft into a civilised,
dry storage space.

If I had bats in the roof space I wouldn't do anything to disturb
them - they're protected by legislation anyway.

That is what prompted us to get the felting job done, several years
ago...

Alternatively, just staple some hardboard over the joists. There'll be
plenty of ventilation between the tiles to keep things nice and you can
leave a few holes to ventilate the loft itself.

Christian.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:07:51 +0000, chris French
wrote:

In message , James Amor
writes
Following the recent high winds I ventured up into the roof (for the first
time since moving in) to check for any damage. I was suprised to notice that
there isn't any roof felt, you can see straight on to the underside of the
tiles.

Is this normal?

for older houses yes. Not sure when they started using felt underneath
it, but our 30's semi didn't have any originally.

I used to live in a late 30's house that did have it. no evidence of
it ever having been re-roofed (All identical houses had the same
tiles..loads of moss as well)

sPoNiX

for older houses yes. Not sure when they started using felt underneath
it, but our 30's semi didn't have any originally.

I used to live in a late 30's house that did have it. no evidence of
it ever having been re-roofed (All identical houses had the same
tiles..loads of moss as well)

A lot of "modern" building practices started to be more widely used in the
1930s, but didn't become almost universal until later. I can think of
plasterboard and cavity walls for two more.

Christian

In article ,
Christian McArdle wrote:
A lot of "modern" building practices started to be more widely used
in the 1930s, but didn't become almost universal until later. I can
think of plasterboard and cavity walls for two more.

Marley concrete roofing tiles - which probably were talked of with
derision by many 1930's roofers but have outlasted many clay ones of
similar vintage.

--
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Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm

Rob Morley wrote:

SNIP

If I had bats in the roof space I wouldn't do anything to disturb
them - they're protected by legislation anyway.

You would if you could. One or two sweet little fledemaus is one thing.
However, when the colony grows a bit, and the seek some lebensraum,
you will want to reach for the bat traps.

They will move into the cavities, and if there are gaps, your bedroom
too. Once in the house, as it is illegal to disturb them, you might as
well move out.

It is not impossible to get them moved, just d@mned difficult. English
Nature look after them.

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says...
Rob Morley wrote:

SNIP

If I had bats in the roof space I wouldn't do anything to disturb
them - they're protected by legislation anyway.

You would if you could. One or two sweet little fledemaus is one thing.
However, when the colony grows a bit, and the seek some lebensraum,
you will want to reach for the bat traps.

They will move into the cavities, and if there are gaps, your bedroom
too. Once in the house, as it is illegal to disturb them, you might as
well move out.

I don't have cavities. If they moved into the house I expect they'd
keep the cat entertained.

Andrew Chesters wrote:
Rob Morley wrote:

SNIP
If I had bats in the roof space I wouldn't do anything to disturb
them - they're protected by legislation anyway.

You would if you could. One or two sweet little fledemaus is one
thing. However, when the colony grows a bit, and the seek some
lebensraum, you will want to reach for the bat traps.

They will move into the cavities, and if there are gaps, your bedroom
too. Once in the house, as it is illegal to disturb them, you might as
well move out.

It is not impossible to get them moved, just d@mned difficult. English
Nature look after them.

Fortunately the bats themselves decided to move on, as soon as they
realised the house had other occupants.

Lifted loft hatch; exit two bats, never to return.

(Defendant claims that he did call out "Whoops - sorry!" and begs for
mercy.)

--
Ian White
Abingdon, England