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legin May 18th 04 07:39 AM

u values, insulation.
 
Having read many an interesting discussion within the group, thought
that I would tap the resources.
Assuming that wall is principly constructed using the same materials,
i.e. the u value would be the same.
Would it make amy difference where the insulation was.
Surpose outer brick, cavity, inner block then insulated, boarded and
skimmed as against outer brick, insulated cavity, inner block, boarded
and skimmed.
The u values would be the same but I would have thought that the
initial warm up time would be less as the blockwork mass would have to
be heated to get to the insulation in one of the examples.

Nigel

Peter Taylor May 18th 04 08:15 AM

u values, insulation.
 
"legin" wrote in message
om...
Having read many an interesting discussion within the group, thought
that I would tap the resources.
Assuming that wall is principly constructed using the same materials,
i.e. the u value would be the same.
Would it make amy difference where the insulation was.
Surpose outer brick, cavity, inner block then insulated, boarded and
skimmed as against outer brick, insulated cavity, inner block, boarded
and skimmed.
The u values would be the same but I would have thought that the
initial warm up time would be less as the blockwork mass would have to
be heated to get to the insulation in one of the examples.

Nigel


Hi Nigel - basically, the position of the insulation doesn't make any difference
to the U Value of a wall. The U value is calculated by inverting the sum of the
thermal resistances of all the materials, surfaces and cavities, so you can get
minor differences if you create any extra cavities.

You're right - insulation on the inside face means the structure has a lower
thermal capacity and a room will reach target temperature more quickly, but then
it will also cool down more quickly too. There are advantages and
disadvantages - personally, from the point of view of comfort, I prefer a higher
thermal capacity but it can work out more expensive if you leave the house
cooling while you're out. You can partly get over this by adjusting the on/off
times on the programmer.

Peter


The Natural Philosopher May 19th 04 03:18 PM

u values, insulation.
 
legin wrote:

Having read many an interesting discussion within the group, thought
that I would tap the resources.
Assuming that wall is principly constructed using the same materials,
i.e. the u value would be the same.
Would it make amy difference where the insulation was.
Surpose outer brick, cavity, inner block then insulated, boarded and
skimmed as against outer brick, insulated cavity, inner block, boarded
and skimmed.
The u values would be the same but I would have thought that the
initial warm up time would be less as the blockwork mass would have to
be heated to get to the insulation in one of the examples.

Nigel



I think you have it in one.

The better the insulation, and the bigger the thermal mass inside the
insulation, the less it makes sense to have a timed heating system.

I keep imagining those mediaeavel castles with 9ft thick stone walls,
and how long it must have taken to get them up to working temperatures,....







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