Cable clip tool ?
Have just installed a new antenna and have reminded myself that securing the
coax downlead using cable clips (into brick) using a hammer takes skill, patience and more clips than clip locations. Is there a purpose designed tool for this job? which gets the hardened pin into the wall without shattering pin, mortar or brick? My neighbour's installation looks so neat with clips every few inches.... TIA -- M Stewart Milton Keynes, UK http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm |
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
Have just installed a new antenna and have reminded myself that securing the coax downlead using cable clips (into brick) using a hammer takes skill, patience and more clips than clip locations. Is there a purpose designed tool for this job? which gets the hardened pin into the wall without shattering pin, mortar or brick? My neighbour's installation looks so neat with clips every few inches.... If the wall is really hard, then drill holes and use pin plugs... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
I guess something along the lines of a Hilti gun would do this... (They
can put nails through steel joists AFAIK) Maybe hire it from somewhere? I have found that holding the pin with narrow nose pliers helps a great deal - also prevents the fingers from being mashed... Malcolm Stewart wrote: Have just installed a new antenna and have reminded myself that securing the coax downlead using cable clips (into brick) using a hammer takes skill, patience and more clips than clip locations. Is there a purpose designed tool for this job? which gets the hardened pin into the wall without shattering pin, mortar or brick? My neighbour's installation looks so neat with clips every few inches.... |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:43:20 -0000, "Malcolm Stewart"
wrote: Have just installed a new antenna and have reminded myself that securing the coax downlead using cable clips (into brick) using a hammer takes skill, patience and more clips than clip locations. Is there a purpose designed tool for this job? which gets the hardened pin into the wall without shattering pin, mortar or brick? My neighbour's installation looks so neat with clips every few inches.... TIA The trick is to use lots of little taps, not a few heavy clumps. |
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Paul Mc Cann wrote: Pin into the mortar only. Works for me. They just fall out for me. ;-) -- *Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Paul Mc Cann wrote: Pin into the mortar only. Works for me. They just fall out for me. ;-) 'Snow nails' used to be the standard way of fixing cable into mortar, these consisted of a largish wedge shaped nail, with a strip of lead which could be wound around the cable. I've still managed to hang on to a few for special jobs, but for some reason they now appear to be no longer available. -- *Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Mike Harrison wrote: The trick is to use lots of little taps, not a few heavy clumps. And of course hit the nail square - often not that easy when up a ladder, etc. I also prefer a club hammer - or at least a heavy one - and light taps with that rather than harder ones with a light hammer. However, as has been said, for a really neat job drill the bricks and use the special plugs. -- *No word in the English language rhymes with month, orange, silver,purple Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:39:29 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Mike Harrison wrote: The trick is to use lots of little taps, not a few heavy clumps. And of course hit the nail square - often not that easy when up a ladder, etc. I also prefer a club hammer - or at least a heavy one - and light taps with that rather than harder ones with a light hammer. However, as has been said, for a really neat job drill the bricks and use the special plugs. There are some plugs that I found on the Screwfix site 89036 which go into a drilled hole and then a cable tie can be attached. I bought some and they work well. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
Andy Hall wrote:
There are some plugs that I found on the Screwfix site 89036 which go into a drilled hole and then a cable tie can be attached. I bought some and they work well. Yep, I'll second the vote for these plugs, especially if you are running multiple cables; BUT beware the effect of UV light on the ties. Unless a special grade is used they can fail in 3 years. (seen it, replaced them, got tee shirt etc) |
Andy Hall wrote:
There are some plugs that I found on the Screwfix site 89036 which go into a drilled hole and then a cable tie can be attached. I bought some and they work well. There are a few varieties on that theme: http://www.towerman.co.uk/pdf/fixings/hammerfix.pdf I quite like the fifth one down with conventional cable clips. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Paul Mc Cann wrote: Pin into the mortar only. Works for me. They just fall out for me. ;-) The nails bend for me :-r Tim.. |
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:43:20 -0000, "Malcolm Stewart"
strung together this: Have just installed a new antenna and have reminded myself that securing the coax downlead using cable clips (into brick) using a hammer takes skill, patience and more clips than clip locations. Yep. Is there a purpose designed tool for this job? which gets the hardened pin into the wall without shattering pin, mortar or brick? Yes, a hammer. My neighbour's installation looks so neat with clips every few inches.... Did I do that one? -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
Have just installed a new antenna and have reminded myself that
securing the coax downlead using cable clips (into brick) using a hammer takes skill, patience and more clips than clip locations. Use good clips (Unifix, Tradefix) as cheap ones have weak nails and plastic. Tap quite gently many times with the hammer. Use eye protection. Bill |
Oh I meant to say, for some reason the softest mortar is often in the
vertical joints between the bricks, about a third of the way from the top edge of the bricks. Bill |
ivan wrote: 'Snow nails' used to be the standard way of fixing cable into mortar, these consisted of a largish wedge shaped nail, with a strip of lead which could be wound around the cable. I've still managed to hang on to a few for special jobs, but for some reason they now appear to be no longer available. BT engineers seem to use something similar (or maybe the same?). After getting bored of seeing normal masonry pin+plastic clips fall out of my wall the last one fetched what I thought was a device made wholly of lead. After drilling a hole these were tapped into place with a single sharp tap. I think they were a lead 'plug' with a clip shaped head. I guess the hammering deformed the plug to grip the hole. I'd be handy to know their name to be able to get a few. IanC |
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