Sanflo or not wiring reg's please
 

I have a sanismart loo which I have placed in the upstairs bedroom. I have taken a spur from the ring main that runs under the floor boards up into the area of the loo and sink. this is a 5 amp spur connected to a RCD. Is this the correct and safe thing to do or will I light up like a christmas tree!!

I can't talk about the electrical side, but have you thought carefully about the discharge pipework. It is common to run this straight up into the loft before exiting the building. In the event of system problems should you try to inspect the Saniflo all the ffluent in this pipe is liable to burst out all over you. If I had to install one I would not route the discharge pipework upwards. At some future date it surely will require attention. Remeber my warning, get your chemical warfare outfit on, shut the door to the bedroom and get a bundle of towels ready!!!! Horrible machines that they are.

"and" wrote in message
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I have a sanismart loo which I have placed in the upstairs bedroom. I
have taken a spur from the ring main that runs under the floor boards
up into the area of the loo and sink. this is a 5 amp spur connected to
a RCD. Is this the correct and safe thing to do or will I light up like
a christmas tree!!

and


You should try not to have any actual switching in the loo area. A flex outlet
plate, which is just like a switch plate but has a hole in the middle of it,
should be fitted in the wet area of a loo or bathroom. The isolating switches
should be fitted outside the loo area for safety.

It is OK to take the saniflo from a spur off the ring circuit, and you've also
given extra protection with the use of an RCD, and you have it fused at the
correct rating. So, everything sounds good until you say the actual switching
is being installed in the same room as the saniflo unit. It really needs to be
outside the room so you isolate the electricity before you service the unit.
You can't easily or accidentally switch it back on while you're working on it
either.

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:51:06 +0000, and
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I have a sanismart loo

Oh dear, never mind, I'm sure you can get a refund.

which I have placed in the upstairs bedroom. I
have taken a spur from the ring main that runs under the floor boards
up into the area of the loo and sink. this is a 5 amp spur connected to
a RCD. Is this the correct and safe thing to do or will I light up like
a christmas tree!!

Sounds about right. You need a DP switched fused connection unit with
a contact gap of at least 3mm in all poles when in the off position,
technically.
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SJW
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:01:39 GMT, "BigWallop"
strung together this:

So, everything sounds good until you say the actual switching
is being installed in the same room as the saniflo unit. It really needs to be
outside the room so you isolate the electricity before you service the unit.
You can't easily or accidentally switch it back on while you're working on it
either.

Sorry, going to have to do a bit of disagreeing with you here.
Installing a spur next to a Saniflo is exactly the same as installing
one next to a wasted disposal unit in a kitchen.

I would only not install the spur in the same room if there is a bath
or shower in the room too.
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"Lurch" wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:01:39 GMT, "BigWallop"
strung together this:

So, everything sounds good until you say the actual switching
is being installed in the same room as the saniflo unit. It really needs to
be
outside the room so you isolate the electricity before you service the unit.
You can't easily or accidentally switch it back on while you're working on it
either.

Sorry, going to have to do a bit of disagreeing with you here.
Installing a spur next to a Saniflo is exactly the same as installing
one next to a wasted disposal unit in a kitchen.

I would only not install the spur in the same room if there is a bath
or shower in the room too.


I thought this wouldn't apply because of the wash basin being beside the unit as
well. I thought the OP (and) said that the connection unit came in, between the
basin and the saniflo unit.

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:16:00 GMT, "BigWallop"
strung together this:

I thought this wouldn't apply because of the wash basin being beside the unit as
well.

Nope, bath or shower then I start applying bathroom rules. Sink only,
not a bathroom, like the kitchen.

I thought the OP (and) said that the connection unit came in, between the
basin and the saniflo unit.

They did, but it's not a problem.
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"Lurch" wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:16:00 GMT, "BigWallop"
strung together this:

I thought this wouldn't apply because of the wash basin being beside the unit
as
well.

Nope, bath or shower then I start applying bathroom rules. Sink only,
not a bathroom, like the kitchen.

I thought the OP (and) said that the connection unit came in, between the
basin and the saniflo unit.

They did, but it's not a problem.


Thank you again Mr Lurch. It's just that low level "switched" connection units,
in a position where they may encounter water ingress from an appliance, are
frowned upon in Scotland by the BCO and Leccy supply people. They usually ask
for it to be changed to a flex outlet only connector, and for the isolator to be
placed out with the area that might have water splashed on it when an appliance
is in use.

They can be more lenient on an FCU, but a switched unit is a no, no.

"BigWallop" wrote
| Thank you again Mr Lurch. It's just that low level "switched" connection
| units, in a position where they may encounter water ingress from an
| appliance, are frowned upon in Scotland by the BCO and Leccy supply
| people. They usually ask for it to be changed to a flex outlet only
| connector, and for the isolator to be placed out with the area that might
| have water splashed on it when an appliance is in use.
| They can be more lenient on an FCU, but a switched unit is a no, no.

Well obviously you don't put it somewhere it's going to get peed on. Think
of a poor Scotsman wearing a kilt hoping he's got his aim right ...

Owain

"Owain" wrote in message
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"BigWallop" wrote
| Thank you again Mr Lurch. It's just that low level "switched" connection
| units, in a position where they may encounter water ingress from an
| appliance, are frowned upon in Scotland by the BCO and Leccy supply
| people. They usually ask for it to be changed to a flex outlet only
| connector, and for the isolator to be placed out with the area that might
| have water splashed on it when an appliance is in use.
| They can be more lenient on an FCU, but a switched unit is a no, no.

Well obviously you don't put it somewhere it's going to get peed on. Think
of a poor Scotsman wearing a kilt hoping he's got his aim right ...

Owain



ROFLMAO!!!! Exactly Owain. And a drunk Scotsman is worse.

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:51:06 +0000, and
wrote:


I have a sanismart

smart? Huh.

loo which I have placed in the upstairs bedroom.

You have a French bog in a bedroom???

Is this the correct and safe thing to do or will I light up like
a christmas tree!!

You ask whether having son of ****soir in a bedroom is correct and
safe????

The electricity is by far the least of your problems. Send all
occupants away for the weekend, turn the gas on when they leave on
Friday. On Saturday get 20 gallons of petrol and pour it in the
bedroom. Leave to mature for an hour or so.

Stand in middle of bedroom and light match.

The results are exactly the same as you will have from having a
French bog in the bedroom but the pain, whilst no less, is at least
far shorter.


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Peter Parry.
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