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Hi All,

I know there are FAQs and questions about sanding/treating floors are
indeed frequently asked. But I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all
answer to these problems.

Here's my scenario: I've laid some reclaimed pitch pine parquet blocks
in a room. You can read all about it and see the photos on my blog:
http://jake.typepad.com/house/

Anyway, this weekend I want to sand and treat it. It's the treating bit
I am confused about. From what I've read on here I think Bourne Seal may
be the way to go. Can anybody back this up? Or offer a better suggestion.

What I don't want to do is just slap some cheapo quick-drying Wickes
floor varnish down. I want to be "sympathetic" to the wood and produce a
long-lasting, durable and most importantly natural-looking finish.

If Bourne Seal is the best then where do I get it? Is it "Bourne Seal"
of "Bourneseal" and who makes it?

Googling for "Bourne Seal" I only find one or two distibutors. I'd
prefer to actually go and buy it from an outlet so I know I've got it by
the weekend.

Another idea was to use Yacht Varnish. Any thoughts?

Jake Howlett
DIYer
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Hi Jake

Bourneseal is an oleo-resinous floor seal made by Johnsons. That's the
brand leader and has become the generic name, like we call all vacuum
cleaners 'Hoovers'.

Many other companies make oleo-resinous floor seals and they are
excellent.

Look in your local Yellow Pages for Janitorial Suppliers and make a few
calls. Almost all of them will stock bourneseal or the same thing
under a different name.

The good thing about oleo-res sealers is that they sink into the wood
rather than just forming a coating on the surface. They are often used
in school halls to prevent splinters.

Best of all, they re coat easily. After a while any floor seal will
show wear in high traffic areas, doorways etc. With an oleo- res seal
you can give they area a light sanding and re coat it so it blends in
with the rest.

This is difficult to do with varnish and almost impossible with two
pack sealers.
Only downside is a longish drying time and a solvent smell.

Dave

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Hi All,

I know there are FAQs and questions about sanding/treating floors are
indeed frequently asked. But I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all
answer to these problems.

Here's my scenario: I've laid some reclaimed pitch pine parquet blocks in
a room. You can read all about it and see the photos on my blog:
http://jake.typepad.com/house/

Anyway, this weekend I want to sand and treat it. It's the treating bit I
am confused about. From what I've read on here I think Bourne Seal may be
the way to go. Can anybody back this up? Or offer a better suggestion.

What I don't want to do is just slap some cheapo quick-drying Wickes floor
varnish down. I want to be "sympathetic" to the wood and produce a
long-lasting, durable and most importantly natural-looking finish.

If Bourne Seal is the best then where do I get it? Is it "Bourne Seal" of
"Bourneseal" and who makes it?

Googling for "Bourne Seal" I only find one or two distibutors. I'd prefer
to actually go and buy it from an outlet so I know I've got it by the
weekend.

Another idea was to use Yacht Varnish. Any thoughts?

Jake Howlett
DIYer


I buy Bourne Seal about every six months to go down on a Scout Hall Floor.
It costs about £50.00 a tin from Travis Perkins and 1½ tins does our 15 x 10
metre hall (one coat). It's applied by roller and the whole floor is done in
an hour or so.

As


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Thanks Dave,

I assume you meant Johnstone's http://www.johnstones-paints.co.uk/

I can't find anything on their site about bourneseal or oleo-resinous
coating.

The more I look for this stuff the confused I become.

Time to call Johnstone's...

Jake

Dave wrote:
Hi Jake

Bourneseal is an oleo-resinous floor seal made by Johnsons. That's the
brand leader and has become the generic name, like we call all vacuum
cleaners 'Hoovers'.

Many other companies make oleo-resinous floor seals and they are
excellent.

Look in your local Yellow Pages for Janitorial Suppliers and make a few
calls. Almost all of them will stock bourneseal or the same thing
under a different name.

The good thing about oleo-res sealers is that they sink into the wood
rather than just forming a coating on the surface. They are often used
in school halls to prevent splinters.

Best of all, they re coat easily. After a while any floor seal will
show wear in high traffic areas, doorways etc. With an oleo- res seal
you can give they area a light sanding and re coat it so it blends in
with the rest.

This is difficult to do with varnish and almost impossible with two
pack sealers.
Only downside is a longish drying time and a solvent smell.

Dave

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Ash wrote:
"Jake" wrote in message
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Hi All,

I know there are FAQs and questions about sanding/treating floors are
indeed frequently asked. But I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all
answer to these problems.

Here's my scenario: I've laid some reclaimed pitch pine parquet blocks in
a room. You can read all about it and see the photos on my blog:
http://jake.typepad.com/house/

Anyway, this weekend I want to sand and treat it. It's the treating bit I
am confused about. From what I've read on here I think Bourne Seal may be
the way to go. Can anybody back this up? Or offer a better suggestion.

What I don't want to do is just slap some cheapo quick-drying Wickes floor
varnish down. I want to be "sympathetic" to the wood and produce a
long-lasting, durable and most importantly natural-looking finish.

If Bourne Seal is the best then where do I get it? Is it "Bourne Seal" of
"Bourneseal" and who makes it?

Googling for "Bourne Seal" I only find one or two distibutors. I'd prefer
to actually go and buy it from an outlet so I know I've got it by the
weekend.

Another idea was to use Yacht Varnish. Any thoughts?

Jake Howlett
DIYer



I buy Bourne Seal about every six months to go down on a Scout Hall Floor.
It costs about £50.00 a tin from Travis Perkins and 1½ tins does our 15 x 10
metre hall (one coat). It's applied by roller and the whole floor is done in
an hour or so.

As


Thanks Ash,

What kind of finish do you get from it? Is it glossy and would you say
it "did the wood justice"?

Jake


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They used to be called Johnson Wax and were based in Frimley, Surrey.
Now merged and called Johnson Diversay.

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"Jake" wrote in message
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Hi All,

I know there are FAQs and questions about sanding/treating floors are
indeed frequently asked. But I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all
answer to these problems.

Here's my scenario: I've laid some reclaimed pitch pine parquet blocks in
a room. You can read all about it and see the photos on my blog:
http://jake.typepad.com/house/

Anyway, this weekend I want to sand and treat it. It's the treating bit I
am confused about. From what I've read on here I think Bourne Seal may be
the way to go. Can anybody back this up? Or offer a better suggestion.

What I don't want to do is just slap some cheapo quick-drying Wickes floor
varnish down. I want to be "sympathetic" to the wood and produce a
long-lasting, durable and most importantly natural-looking finish.

If Bourne Seal is the best then where do I get it? Is it "Bourne Seal" of
"Bourneseal" and who makes it?

Googling for "Bourne Seal" I only find one or two distibutors. I'd prefer
to actually go and buy it from an outlet so I know I've got it by the
weekend.

Another idea was to use Yacht Varnish. Any thoughts?

Jake Howlett
DIYer


"Bourne Seal" (TM I believe) is sold under the Cuprinol brand. A search on
"Bourne Seal Cuprinol" brings up some UK suppliers.

B&Q used to sell it (and were suprisingly cheapest for it round here!) but
IIRC the last time I looked there they didn't have it anymore, only Ronseal
products.

Bourne Seal is a lovely flooring finish for wood, really brings the colour
and character out which then develops over time. Not as hardwearing as
Acrylic finishes but they always look dull and plastic to me - might as well
have laminate IMHO.

Beware, don't buy "Quick Drying Bourne Seal" also by Cuprinol. It is either
acrylic or maybe Poly Urethane? Anyway it looks cr*p, Cuprinol are really
stupid using the name Bourne Seal for a such an inferior product.

HTH

Sam


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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:21:55 +0000, Jake
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Thanks for the photos Ash. I didn't realise the result would be quite so
shiny and I might have to re-evaluate my idea. Maybe linseed and bees-wax...

Jake



Boiled linseed oil, turpentine and a little beeswax as a mix works
very well on oak and does not give a highly shiny effect at all - just
a rich natural look.. It's also easy to maintain.

I haven't tried it on parquet, but it would be easy enough to try on a
small area to see what you think



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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:27:31 +0000, Jake
wrote:

Hi All,

I know there are FAQs and questions about sanding/treating floors are
indeed frequently asked. But I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all
answer to these problems.

Here's my scenario: I've laid some reclaimed pitch pine parquet blocks
in a room. You can read all about it and see the photos on my blog:
http://jake.typepad.com/house/

Anyway, this weekend I want to sand and treat it. It's the treating bit
I am confused about. From what I've read on here I think Bourne Seal may
be the way to go. Can anybody back this up? Or offer a better suggestion.

What I don't want to do is just slap some cheapo quick-drying Wickes
floor varnish down. I want to be "sympathetic" to the wood and produce a
long-lasting, durable and most importantly natural-looking finish.

If Bourne Seal is the best then where do I get it? Is it "Bourne Seal"
of "Bourneseal" and who makes it?

Googling for "Bourne Seal" I only find one or two distibutors. I'd
prefer to actually go and buy it from an outlet so I know I've got it by
the weekend.

Another idea was to use Yacht Varnish. Any thoughts?

Jake Howlett
DIYer


I have had excellent results with OsColor (correct spelling) Hardwax
Oil. I think it has been re-named recently due to a copyright
infringement but any good decorators merchants can source it.

It's from Germany and not cheap but it is good. A mix of natural oils
and waxes and I have yet to speak to anyone who has a bad thing to say
about it.

Some details are here http://www.ecowise.com/green/paint/oscolor.shtml

HTH
Rob


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hi jake I used to do all schools parquet flooring and I would highly recommend
bourne seal just make sure you apply with lambs wool applicator for best
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hi jake I used to do all schools parquet flooring and I would highly
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replying to Jake, KEITH ODGERS wrote:
hi jake I used to do all schools parquet flooring and I would highly
recommend
bourne seal just make sure you apply with lambs wool applicator for best
results good luck


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bourne seal just make sure you apply with lambs wool applicator for best
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replying to Jake, KEITH ODGERS wrote:
hi jake I used to do all schools parquet flooring and I would highly
recommend
bourne seal just make sure you apply with lambs wool applicator for best
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No, I don't think so. However the advice is probably still OK. Lambs wool,
Baaaaaa humbug?

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results good luck


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