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Spam phone calls
This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone
know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? -- Blair Malcolm |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 -0000, Blair Malcolm wrote:
This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Yup, google for "telephone preference service" and give them a bell. Haven't had any unwanted 'phone calls for years now. -- the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
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Do a search on Telephone Preference Service and register with them. It will
not eradicate the problem but it should reduce it. -- Peter Crosland |
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"Blair Malcolm" wrote in message ... This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Sign up with Telephone Preference Service - google on TPS. It works and it's free. Mary -- Blair Malcolm |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 UTC, "Blair Malcolm"
wrote: This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/ It really does work. -- Bob Eager begin a new life...dump Windows! |
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Blair Malcolm wrote:
This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? What the others said If you want to throw money at the problem then you could subscribe to anonymous caller reject, but that's around £10 a quarter from BT Lee -- Email address is valid, but is unlikely to be read. |
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Peter Crosland wrote:
Do a search on Telephone Preference Service and register with them. It will not eradicate the problem but it should reduce it. Also if you have an extra number on the line (e.g. with CallSign) register that too ... |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Lee wrote: If you want to throw money at the problem then you could subscribe to anonymous caller reject, but that's around £10 a quarter from BT Lee And it will stop *all* calls with number witheld from getting through - possibly including some from your friends. -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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Does it work with text messages to mobiles ? - the wife is getting
suspicious of all the offers for lonely hearts introductions I get. :-) JB |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Peter Crosland wrote: Do a search on Telephone Preference Service and register with them. It will not eradicate the problem but it should reduce it. Also if you have an extra number on the line (e.g. with CallSign) register that too ... Not forgetting mobile numbers too. |
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In message , Wanderer
writes On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 -0000, Blair Malcolm wrote: This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Yup, google for "telephone preference service" and give them a bell. Haven't had any unwanted 'phone calls for years now. Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. -- bof at bof dot me dot uk |
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In message , Huge
writes "Set Square" writes: In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Lee wrote: If you want to throw money at the problem then you could subscribe to anonymous caller reject, but that's around £10 a quarter from BT Lee And it will stop *all* calls with number witheld from getting through - possibly including some from your friends. Shouldn't withold their numbers then, should they? Or redial prefixed with 1470 (I think) -- bof at bof dot me dot uk |
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In message , bof
writes Shouldn't withold their numbers then, should they? Or redial prefixed with 1470 (I think) I have a block on all withheld numbers and it works well, stopped most spam calls. BUT there are companies out there that for one reason or another do not reveal their number and cannot reveal it by dialling 1470, so it can have its problems. -- Bill |
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"bof" wrote in message
... In message , Huge writes "Set Square" writes: In an earlier contribution to this discussion, And it will stop *all* calls with number witheld from getting through - possibly including some from your friends. Shouldn't withold their numbers then, should they? Or redial prefixed with 1470 (I think) Dunno about 1470, but dialling 141 followed by the number itself blocks the caller ID |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bill wrote: In message , bof writes Shouldn't withold their numbers then, should they? Or redial prefixed with 1470 (I think) I have a block on all withheld numbers and it works well, stopped most spam calls. BUT there are companies out there that for one reason or another do not reveal their number and cannot reveal it by dialling 1470, so it can have its problems. Precisely! There are callers who withold their numbers for legitimate reasons (e.g. doctors) or without knowing it (e.g. people with ex-directory numbers who don't realise that the default is for CLID to be witheld). You may wish to receive calls from any of these - but would be prevented from doing so if you use Anonymous Call Rejection. In my view, it is a rather unsubtle tool - to be used only as a last resort. -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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Set Square wrote:
(e.g. people with ex-directory numbers who don't realise that the default is for CLID to be witheld) I am ex-directory, my CLI is released by default, I didn't have to ask for it to be that way ... |
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bof wrote:
In message , Wanderer writes On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 -0000, Blair Malcolm wrote: This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Yup, google for "telephone preference service" and give them a bell. Haven't had any unwanted 'phone calls for years now. Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. So what happens when you report them? (I presume if you can be donkeyed to register with TPS you're also clued up enough to know to get callers' identities and report them.) Since I registered I've only had 2 junk calls: on the first, when I asked their company's name and it became clear I was on TPS the caller said "Oh sh1t" and apologised for calling; the 2nd was some SMS-to-voice gateway run by BT which someone used to advertise a yoga group. Since she didn't give any contact details it was pretty pointless advertising, and may have been a genuine mistake. I didn't take that one up and it hasn't happened again but if it did I certainly would. |
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Set Square wrote:
Precisely! There are callers who withold their numbers for legitimate reasons (e.g. doctors) or without knowing it (e.g. people with ex-directory numbers who don't realise that the default is for CLID to be witheld). You may wish to receive calls from any of these - but would be prevented from doing so if you use Anonymous Call Rejection. In my view, it is a rather unsubtle tool - to be used only as a last resort. There have been arguments on this topic before in here, so I won't revisit them. Except to say that this is what presentation numbers are for. Lee -- Email address is valid, but is unlikely to be read. |
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"bof" wrote in message ... In message , Wanderer writes On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 -0000, Blair Malcolm wrote: This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Yup, google for "telephone preference service" and give them a bell. Haven't had any unwanted 'phone calls for years now. Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. I hope you report them. I've had only two since I registered - when it started. Mary |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Andy Burns wrote: Set Square wrote: (e.g. people with ex-directory numbers who don't realise that the default is for CLID to be witheld) I am ex-directory, my CLI is released by default, I didn't have to ask for it to be that way ... I don't know whether the default changed at some point. We have at least two friends who are ex-directory and whose numbers are witheld. They claim never to have specifically asked for CLI to be witheld! -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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"John Stumbles" wrote in message news:L2Jud.579$WZ3.319@newsfe6- Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. So what happens when you report them? (I presume if you can be donkeyed to register with TPS you're also clued up enough to know to get callers' identities and report them.) TPS contacts the caller and points out that they shouldn't be doing it. I can't think why but that seems to work! Mary |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:56:04 UTC, Andy Burns
wrote: Set Square wrote: (e.g. people with ex-directory numbers who don't realise that the default is for CLID to be witheld) I am ex-directory, my CLI is released by default, I didn't have to ask for it to be that way ... Same here, on one line (the ex-d was added later, due to the nature of my job). I had a second line put in for the ADSL, and I was asked if I wanted it ex-directory. Since no-one will ever call it, I said yes; they added CLIP suppression without being asked. -- Bob Eager begin a new life...dump Windows! |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bob Eager wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:56:04 UTC, Andy Burns wrote: Set Square wrote: (e.g. people with ex-directory numbers who don't realise that the default is for CLID to be witheld) I am ex-directory, my CLI is released by default, I didn't have to ask for it to be that way ... Same here, on one line (the ex-d was added later, due to the nature of my job). I had a second line put in for the ADSL, and I was asked if I wanted it ex-directory. Since no-one will ever call it, I said yes; they added CLIP suppression without being asked. That's interesting - and corresponds with my belief that CLID is witheld by default on ex-directory lines - but Andy Burns believes that it's the other way round. I wonder who's right?! I post a query in uk.telecom and see what the response is. -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:51:32 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: "John Stumbles" wrote in message news:L2Jud.579$WZ3.319@newsfe6- Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. So what happens when you report them? (I presume if you can be donkeyed to register with TPS you're also clued up enough to know to get callers' identities and report them.) TPS contacts the caller and points out that they shouldn't be doing it. I can't think why but that seems to work! I frequently get calls from BT even though I'm registered with TPS. BT ring up in the guise of my telephone service provider - they insist that they aren't selling anything, but are just a caring company... -- Frank Erskine |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "bof" wrote in message ... In message , Wanderer writes On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 -0000, Blair Malcolm wrote: This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Yup, google for "telephone preference service" and give them a bell. Haven't had any unwanted 'phone calls for years now. Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. I hope you report them. I've had only two since I registered - when it started. I have had 4, but they have all been from the RNIB. I don't object to them ringing me up and I have told them so. The person that taught me about computers was blind and he used to wire up his own in the days before the 386 microchip. (A long time ago now. DOS 3.1 days, if anyone remembers that) Dave |
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"Set Square" wrote in message ... In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Bill wrote: In message , bof writes Shouldn't withold their numbers then, should they? Or redial prefixed with 1470 (I think) I have a block on all withheld numbers and it works well, stopped most spam calls. BUT there are companies out there that for one reason or another do not reveal their number and cannot reveal it by dialling 1470, so it can have its problems. Precisely! There are callers who withold their numbers for legitimate reasons (e.g. doctors) or without knowing it (e.g. people with ex-directory numbers who don't realise that the default is for CLID to be witheld). You may wish to receive calls from any of these - but would be prevented from doing so if you use Anonymous Call Rejection. Agreed. I have had caller display for a number of year and every time the display showed number withheld, I took great delight in taking the call and if it was not some one I knew, who should withhold their number, then I would end the call within seconds. After joining the telephone preference service, I have had no further un-solicited calls, other than the ones I mentioned further up this thread. I am thinking about joining the postal preference service, but I don't receive that many letters as it is. Am I that sad :-) Dave |
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Set Square wrote:
That's interesting - and corresponds with my belief that CLID is witheld by default on ex-directory lines - but Andy Burns believes that it's the other way round. I wonder who's right?! Nothing to say that we're both right ... if BT don't have a policy that link ex-dir to CLI blocking, or if they have done different things at different times. My line was ordered with ex-dir from the start, not added later, line was installed recently (i.e not a long standing line that existed before CLI was available) |
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Blair Malcolm wrote:
This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Just take the receiver off the hook. I just pick it up, and either say hello' and if no one I know answers it or they don't know my name, down iot goes, or else just leave it off hook for half an hour. You can join these 'i don';t want spam' things, but that doesn't stop the hardcore foreign calls from mumbai or the Ukraine.. |
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Set Square wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Lee wrote: If you want to throw money at the problem then you could subscribe to anonymous caller reject, but that's around £10 a quarter from BT Lee And it will stop *all* calls with number witheld from getting through - possibly including some from your friends. And nearly all from people sitting behind (usually badly set up ) PABX's. |
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Frank Erskine wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:51:32 -0000, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "John Stumbles" wrote in message news:L2Jud.579$WZ3.319@newsfe6- Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. So what happens when you report them? (I presume if you can be donkeyed to register with TPS you're also clued up enough to know to get callers' identities and report them.) TPS contacts the caller and points out that they shouldn't be doing it. I can't think why but that seems to work! I frequently get calls from BT even though I'm registered with TPS. BT ring up in the guise of my telephone service provider - they insist that they aren't selling anything, but are just a caring company... Its usually a scamn. I got one of those and aksed if it was BT why they didn't know what my details were, since the (very indian) voice was asking for them. They tried to tell me that it was because ne part of BT didn';t talk to anoter. I replied that if that was teh case, they should get talking first. Now whenever I hear someone claiming to be from BT who doesn't know my name, I put the phone down. |
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In message , John Stumbles
writes bof wrote: In message , Wanderer writes On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 -0000, Blair Malcolm wrote: This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? Yup, google for "telephone preference service" and give them a bell. Haven't had any unwanted 'phone calls for years now. Registered with TPS the day after it started, re registered twice, still getting junk calls. So what happens when you report them? (I presume if you can be donkeyed to register with TPS you're also clued up enough to know to get callers' identities and report them.) The vast majority are automatic diallers with recordings/robots number withheld, advertising premium rate numbers, I've reported two and not received any reply. -- bof at bof dot me dot uk |
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Set Square wrote: And it will stop *all* calls with number witheld from getting through - possibly including some from your friends. Most national and local govt departments, plus we lost a bed vacancy in our local hospital because the beds woman dials out with number witheld. Also it does not stop spam from call centres abroad, and BT themselves seem to have been the first ones to notice that workaround. -- Tony Williams. |
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"Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... I frequently get calls from BT even though I'm registered with TPS. BT ring up in the guise of my telephone service provider - they insist that they aren't selling anything, but are just a caring company... That's interesting, I don't - but I wouldn't mind. If I did I'd ask them not to do it again. Mary -- Frank Erskine |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... I've had only two since I registered - when it started. I have had 4, but they have all been from the RNIB. I don't object to them ringing me up and I have told them so. The person that taught me about computers was blind and he used to wire up his own in the days before the 386 microchip. (A long time ago now. DOS 3.1 days, if anyone remembers that) Ah, DOS ... wipes a tear Dostalgia isn't what it used to be ... Mary Dave |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mary Fisher wrote: "Dave" wrote in message ... I've had only two since I registered - when it started. I have had 4, but they have all been from the RNIB. I don't object to them ringing me up and I have told them so. The person that taught me about computers was blind and he used to wire up his own in the days before the 386 microchip. (A long time ago now. DOS 3.1 days, if anyone remembers that) Ah, DOS ... wipes a tear Dostalgia isn't what it used to be ... Mary Dave It's amazing (by modern standards!) what you could achieve on a machine with 640kB (or less) of RAM and a 10MB hard disk! Now, the *entry level* is 128MB of RAM and 20GB hard disk - mostly running bloatware! -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:10:34 UTC, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: Ah, DOS ... wipes a tear Dostalgia isn't what it used to be ... I still have my copy of DOS 2.0, manuals and all...IBM gave it to me! -- Bob Eager begin a new life...dump Windows! |
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"Set Square" wrote in message ... ago now. DOS 3.1 days, if anyone remembers that) Ah, DOS ... wipes a tear Dostalgia isn't what it used to be ... Mary Dave It's amazing (by modern standards!) what you could achieve on a machine with 640kB (or less) of RAM and a 10MB hard disk! Yes. But people wanted more ... they always do :-( Now, the *entry level* is 128MB of RAM and 20GB hard disk - mostly running bloatware! LOL! I hope I remember that :-) Mary |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 01:36:05 +0000 (UTC), "Dave"
strung together this: The person that taught me about computers was blind and he used to wire up his own in the days before the 386 microchip. (A long time ago now. DOS 3.1 days, if anyone remembers that) Nearly, I came in at around DOS 5. Used to use it more than Windows at the time. -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:25:32 +0000, John
strung together this: Which is a right pain for the people that work there - we have to then call using a mobile, making the person we're calling suspicious of who we claim to be. Then don't call from the mobile, leave it until your company has no customers left. Someone might do something about it then. -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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In message , Bob Eager
writes On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:39:23 UTC, "Blair Malcolm" wrote: This may not be the correct news group to ask this question but does anyone know how I can prevent these frequent and tiresome Spam calls? http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/ It really does work. Not always. I still get calls showing up as International, usually with an Indian voice. They often sound baffled when I mention the TPS, but usually hang up. However, the worst case was a few weeks ago, when a woman with an American accent called. This is the paraphrased conversation: She: Hi, this is Jane Doe, did you get my e-mail? Me: Yes. I deleted it because I don't read spam. She: Have you noticed how your phone call costs are increasing? Me: I'm not interested. I'm moving house soon anyway. She: Well, would you like... Me: This number is registered with the Telephone Preference Service and you shouldn't be calling it. She: I'd like to tell you about our VOIP service. Me (irritated): I told you, this number is registered with the TPS and you are committing an offence by calling it. She: Well, we can save you... Me: (now very irritated): I told you, You are committing an offence! She: Well, our service... Me (incandescent): GO AWAY (or something similar). (hangs up) Next time I'll try to stay calm long enough to get their details and fill in the on-line complaint form, not that it'll help much for international calls. -- Peter Ying tong iddle-i po! |
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