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Lurch
 
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Default ok to use Araldite Rapid on 500W quartz bulb?

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:02:26 GMT, Zak strung
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I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

I wouldn't even entertain the idea of repairing it.
Buy a new one, WW2 has finished now.
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Zak wrote:

The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?

I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information.



No glue will sucessfully stick your bulb back together permanently.

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"Zak" wrote in message
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The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?

I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information.


these bulbs are only 50p each from screwfix, it cannot be worth the
aggravation of attempting anything more than clean the contacts in the way
of maintenance.

mrcheerful


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The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.


In all my time, I've never heard of someone attempting to fix a light bulb.
Unless you are based in South Georgia or Tristan da Cunha, buy a new bulb,
it will be cheaper than the Araldite.

Christian.


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"Zak" wrote in message
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The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

snip

This has got to be a troll.




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"Zak" wrote in message
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The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?


Almost certainly it will probably catch fire :-(

I really don't see the logic of pratting about like that for a £1-50 lamp



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don't know if i will be the only one to attempt to answer your question
rather than pass comment, but i doubt the glue will hold up to the extreme
temperatures the bulb produces...why not try it and see? in fact you
probably have done by now...did it work?

Steve


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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:48:06 -0000, "r.p.mcmurphy"
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don't know if i will be the only one to attempt to answer your question


well, if you read the whole thread first you'd notice that you are in
fact the second person to post a answer to the question rather than an
alternative method.
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Lurch wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:48:06 -0000, "r.p.mcmurphy"
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don't know if i will be the only one to attempt to answer your question


well, if you read the whole thread first you'd notice that you are in
fact the second person to post a answer to the question rather than an
alternative method.



a crack will let air in, result: instant filament failure.
araldite hasnt got the remotest chance of surviving the temp.

To repair it youll need to be able to weld the quartz, and do so while
the bulb is in a semi vacuum with bromine or iodine added. Halogens
are about the least repairable of all bulb types.


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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:53:30 -0000, Rob Morley
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It's not the envelope that's cracked.


Either way, it's a stupid idea to repair a halogen tube.
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"Lurch" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:48:06 -0000, "r.p.mcmurphy"
strung together this:

don't know if i will be the only one to attempt to answer your question


well, if you read the whole thread first you'd notice that you are in
fact the second person to post a answer to the question rather than an
alternative method.


actually i did read the whole thread and not one answered the op's question.

Steve


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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:41:54 -0000, "r.p.mcmurphy"
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actually i did read the whole thread and not one answered the op's question.

You've obviously got some missing posts then, I can see another that
answers the question quite clearly here.
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"Lurch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:41:54 -0000, "r.p.mcmurphy"
strung together this:

actually i did read the whole thread and not one answered the op's
question.

You've obviously got some missing posts then, I can see another that
answers the question quite clearly here.
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Oh well. but it seems that so many just want to make comment rather than
answer questions sometimes!

Steve




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In uk.d-i-y Zak wrote:
The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?

I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information.


It will fail.
I would wrap it in wire, to keep it together when it fails.
But expect to need to replace.
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"Zak" wrote:
The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has=20
cracked.
=20
I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.
=20
Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?
=20
I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but=20
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information


You could also use Duct Tape (Gaffer Tape) - the high temp version. :-).

I do recall a high temp "dope" for sealing up vacuum system (OK to about
10^-5 Torr, I think). Sealed holes in glass and was flexible enough to
handle temp variations without losing seal.=20

Can't remember what it was called.

Tomasso.
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Tomasso wrote:

"Zak" wrote:
The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?

I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information


You could also use Duct Tape (Gaffer Tape) - the high temp version. :-).

I do recall a high temp "dope" for sealing up vacuum system (OK to about
10^-5 Torr, I think). Sealed holes in glass and was flexible enough to
handle temp variations without losing seal.

Can't remember what it was called.


Glyptal thermoset resin (phtalic anhydride, glycerin, red pigment...).

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Uncle Al wrote:
Tomasso wrote:

"Zak" wrote:

The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?

I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information


You could also use Duct Tape (Gaffer Tape) - the high temp version. :-).

I do recall a high temp "dope" for sealing up vacuum system (OK to about
10^-5 Torr, I think). Sealed holes in glass and was flexible enough to
handle temp variations without losing seal.

Can't remember what it was called.



Glyptal thermoset resin (phtalic anhydride, glycerin, red pigment...).

You are showing your age. Glyptal went out about 1970. The two
sealants of choice are Torr-Seal (Varian) or equivalent, an epoxy which
goes to 10^-9 Torr and ~ 120 C, or silicone based resins that you can
use (with luck) to 450 C The former have structural strength. The
latter are strictly paint on and the replacements for glyptal (I
remember glyptol, but that could be age).

josh halpern
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"Joshua Halpern" wrote:
...or silicone based resins that you can use (with luck) to 450 C =20
...strictly paint on and the replacements for glyptal=20


The silicone one is the one I remember.

For reasons that REALLY make no sense to me now, I had to
thermally decompose sodium azide (NaN3) under high vacuum...

Even in those days I was a theoretician, but for some reason got
tied up in this weird system (optical pumping Na Zeeman hyperfine
- primitive, but was able to vary a lot of conditions).=20

I may be showing my age, too.

Tomasso.


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"Zak" wrote:
The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?

I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information



Aradite rapid joins can be pulled apart by heating to 150C. Standard
aradite is much stronger w.r.t heat.

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"Ron Jones" wrote in message ...

Aradite rapid joins can be pulled apart by heating to 150C. Standard
aradite is much stronger w.r.t heat.


JAAMOI, are Standard and Rapid of similar strengths at, say, -5C to
40C? I've often wondered, and used standard where strength is an
issue, 'just in case'.

Regards,

Paul.
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Paul wrote:
"Ron Jones" wrote in message
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Aradite rapid joins can be pulled apart by heating to 150C.
Standard aradite is much stronger w.r.t heat.


JAAMOI, are Standard and Rapid of similar strengths at, say, -5C to
40C? I've often wondered, and used standard where strength is an
issue, 'just in case'.

Regards,

Paul.


Personally, I've usually found the Standard is better - so long as you can
properly secure the mend for the full setting time of 3 days!!

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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:02:26 GMT, Zak wrote:

The ceramic end on the 500W bulb in my quartz halogen floodlight has
cracked.

I have repaired it with Araldite Rapid.

Will the temperature of the bulb be too much for the adhesive?

I have a feeling that Araldite can not be used at very high temps but
can't find a Google reference which gives any real information.


Hi,

Try baking it in the oven for a while, then check the strength of the
bond while it's hot.

I've got a feeling that the heat may soften the epoxy too much, if it
does then fire cement or superglue could be better alternatives.

cheers,
Pete.
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