DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   UK diy (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/)
-   -   New fangled electric screws... (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/75104-new-fangled-electric-screws.html)

andrewpreece October 29th 04 02:19 AM


"MG" wrote in message
...
Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!

What do I need to get and from where??

Cheers

MArk
**REMOVE** 'myhat' from my return email address before sending!!


I have a fan heater, and had the same problem. They are probably Torx types
with a central post. I used a Dremel with a cut-off disc to cut a flat-blade
screwdriver
to an appropriate width, then cut a central slot in the remaining bit of
blade. The
result was a screwdriver with two 'tines' It worked a treat at getting the
screws out.

Andy.



MG October 29th 04 06:31 PM

New fangled electric screws...
 
Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!

What do I need to get and from where??

Cheers

MArk
**REMOVE** 'myhat' from my return email address before sending!!

Sparks October 29th 04 06:44 PM



What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!


Your gonna have to give us a clue as to what it looks like if you expect
replies!

Sparks...



:::Jerry:::: October 29th 04 06:50 PM


"MG" wrote in message
...
Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!


But enough are. :~(

What do I need to get and from where??


IIRC, when this question came up the last time, Maplins etc do sets.



:::Jerry:::: October 29th 04 06:57 PM


"Sparks" wrote in message
...


What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...


Your gonna have to give us a clue as to what it looks like if you expect
replies!


If he could do that he could ID the type of screw head I suspect and
wouldn't be asking here, it's one of those chicken or egg questions
really.... :~)



Bob Eager October 29th 04 06:59 PM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:31:05 UTC, (MG) wrote:

Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...


Well, describe it then...! Or post a picture on a website...
--
The information contained in this post
is copyright (C) RD Eager, 2004, and
may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diyprojects.info, who are
FORBIDDEN from copying it.



Sparks October 29th 04 07:05 PM


":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
...

"Sparks" wrote in message
...


What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...


Your gonna have to give us a clue as to what it looks like if you expect
replies!


If he could do that he could ID the type of screw head I suspect and
wouldn't be asking here, it's one of those chicken or egg questions
really.... :~)


Yea, but he could try to describe it as best he could couldn't he!

"It has two small holes"
"I can screw it in with a flat blade, but the screwdriver just slips the
other way"
"It looks like a philips, but only has three slots"
"It looks like a torx with a post up the middle"
"It looks like a hex (alan key) with a post up the middle"

Something like that would be helpful!

Sparks...



Steve Walker October 29th 04 09:03 PM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:50:48 +0100, :::Jerry:::: wrote:

"MG" wrote in message
...
Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!


But enough are. :~(

What do I need to get and from where??


IIRC, when this question came up the last time, Maplins etc do sets.


But all the sets I've seen are quite short - I've got a faulty hands-free
kit and all the screws are at the bottom of deep holes! If I look properly
I'll find a set, I've just not got round to it at the moment....

Steve W

Ian Stirling October 29th 04 09:14 PM

Steve Walker wrote:
snip
But all the sets I've seen are quite short - I've got a faulty hands-free
kit and all the screws are at the bottom of deep holes! If I look properly
I'll find a set, I've just not got round to it at the moment....


Define sorts of screws...
Alternatively, worst case, you can take a small drill on a dremel, and use it
to melt out the screws.

Steve Walker October 29th 04 09:50 PM

On 29 Oct 2004 20:14:54 GMT, Ian Stirling wrote:

Steve Walker wrote:
snip
But all the sets I've seen are quite short - I've got a faulty hands-free
kit and all the screws are at the bottom of deep holes! If I look properly
I'll find a set, I've just not got round to it at the moment....


Define sorts of screws...
Alternatively, worst case, you can take a small drill on a dremel, and use it
to melt out the screws.


Oh I know I can sort it out - I've just got a lot on at the moment ... as
usual ;) and haven't got round to it.

Steve W

Keith G. Powell October 30th 04 05:29 PM


"MG" wrote in message
...
Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!

What do I need to get and from where??

Cheers

MArk
**REMOVE** 'myhat' from my return email address before sending!!



Order a catalog from www.toolstation.com

Inside the back cover you will see diagrams of 10 types of screw/bolt heads

Keith G. Powell



Timothy Murphy October 31st 04 02:15 AM

andrewpreece wrote:

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...


I have a fan heater, and had the same problem. They are probably Torx
types with a central post. I used a Dremel with a cut-off disc to cut a
flat-blade screwdriver


Are they likely to be Torx screws?
I bought a very cheap "security screwdriver set" from Maplins
with 20 or more heads.
One opened the mains 4-socket box I wanted to lengthen the lead to.
However, I found as I had been warned
that the connections inside the box were crimped
rather than attached as in a 3-pin plug, as I had hoped.

--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail (80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

MM October 31st 04 08:27 AM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:31:05 GMT, (MG)
wrote:

Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!


I suppose they're intended to protect lickle chiillllldddrrruuuunn
from being electrocuted. You know how inquisitive they can be. Let one
loose in a stationary Tube train, and he'll have the floor up in no
time, wondering what those bolts are that hold the motor in place...

MM

Owain October 31st 04 03:00 PM

"MM" wrote
| I suppose they're intended to protect lickle chiillllldddrrruuuunn
| from being electrocuted. You know how inquisitive they can be. Let
| one loose in a stationary Tube train, and he'll have the floor up
| in no time, wondering what those bolts are that hold the motor in
| place...

Mother to child, whilst walking round Stonehenge: "Look but don't touch
dear. You might break something."

Owain



Bob Eager October 31st 04 06:15 PM

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:27:09 UTC, MM wrote:

I suppose they're intended to protect lickle chiillllldddrrruuuunn
from being electrocuted. You know how inquisitive they can be. Let one
loose in a stationary Tube train, and he'll have the floor up in no
time, wondering what those bolts are that hold the motor in place...


Aren't stationary Tubes the things you store posters in?

--
The information contained in this post
is copyright (C) RD Eager, 2004, and
may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diyprojects.info, who are
FORBIDDEN from copying it.



Ed Sirett October 31st 04 08:24 PM

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:31:05 +0000, MG wrote:

Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...

I mean for God's sake, we are not all idiots...!

What do I need to get and from where??

If you only wanted to do this one job then simply extending the cable
using a cable connector (10A 3 pin unless appliance is over 2.3kW) will
do. [Putting the plug part on the appliance end unlike the howto guide
from B&Q!]

But you'll want a neater job and are much aggreived by being locked out. So
buy a set of security bits from Screwfix #18983 -one of those will let you
in.


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html



Owain November 1st 04 05:38 PM

"Ed Sirett" wrote
| If you only wanted to do this one job then simply extending
| the cable using a cable connector (10A 3 pin unless appliance
| is over 2.3kW) will do. [Putting the plug part on the appliance
| end unlike the howto guide from B&Q!]

Aha! That explains why the 'how to make an extension lead' display above the
shelf in my local B&Q is *still* wired wrong. They followed their own how-to
guide.

I wonder what the compensation payment would reach if they ended up in court
....

Owain



Christian McArdle November 2nd 04 10:34 AM

Aren't stationary Tubes the things you store posters in?

No, they're stationery tubes.

Christian.



MG November 14th 04 07:04 PM

On 29 Oct 2004 17:59:03 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:31:05 UTC, (MG) wrote:

Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...


Well, describe it then...! Or post a picture on a website...


....ermmm the problem is that the screw is located down a long moulded
recess about 2" or so and the dia of the screw. So a useful picture is
out the question and also, I can't see the side profile to explain it
in detail... IT IS NOT A STANDARD 'star' TORX though, I can
emphatically say that.

I thought there would be similar screws being used universally...?

Thanks for the comments though.

MG

**REMOVE** 'myhat' from my return email address before sending!!

BigWallop November 14th 04 10:52 PM


"MG" wrote in message
...
On 29 Oct 2004 17:59:03 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:31:05 UTC, (MG) wrote:

Hi

What is with all these new fangled screw heads on modern electrical
appliances?? I know the Torx type, but I have a fan heater I want to
put a longer cable on and I can't ID the screw head to open it...


Well, describe it then...! Or post a picture on a website...


...ermmm the problem is that the screw is located down a long moulded
recess about 2" or so and the dia of the screw. So a useful picture is
out the question and also, I can't see the side profile to explain it
in detail... IT IS NOT A STANDARD 'star' TORX though, I can
emphatically say that.

I thought there would be similar screws being used universally...?

Thanks for the comments though.

MG



Delta Star head screws are becoming the norm' on the continent with
electrical equipment. Instead of a standard four pointed star head, these
have only three points. Have a web search for "security bits" and these
should contain something that will do these screws.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:25 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter