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MGA July 30th 03 04:10 PM

Asbestos garage
 
Hi all,
do any of you know how much (roughly) would it cost to change the roof
of an asbestos garage to a flat one? Is it worth doing this or would
it just be better to build a new garage from scracht?

It's a simple brick garage separated from the house.

Thanks

MGA

[email protected] July 30th 03 04:30 PM

Asbestos garage
 
MGA wrote:
Hi all,
do any of you know how much (roughly) would it cost to change the roof
of an asbestos garage to a flat one? Is it worth doing this or would
it just be better to build a new garage from scracht?

Why change it at all?

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Chris Green )

Grunff July 30th 03 04:52 PM

Asbestos garage
 
MGA wrote:
Hi all,
do any of you know how much (roughly) would it cost to change the roof
of an asbestos garage to a flat one? Is it worth doing this or would
it just be better to build a new garage from scracht?

It's a simple brick garage separated from the house.


You don't want a flat roof - really, you don't. If someone is
holding a gun to your head, sure you have to consider it, but
otherwise, don't.

If the asbestos roof is leaking or damaged, then consider a box
profile steel roof. It'll cost less than a flat roof, and won't
leak.

--
Grunff


TheScullster July 30th 03 05:17 PM

Asbestos garage
 
Never heard of box profile steel roofs!
Can we fit one on single storey extension in lieu of flat roof or are they
just for garages?

TIA

Phil



Grunff July 30th 03 05:22 PM

Asbestos garage
 
TheScullster wrote:
Never heard of box profile steel roofs!


The modern equivalent of corrugated iron. Think any big
warehouse - e.g. B&Q or whatever - the roof will almost always
be box profile.

It's thin (0.6-0.8mm) galvanised steel that's polyester coated.
Comes in many colours.

Can we fit one on single storey extension in lieu of flat roof or are they
just for garages?


Well, I think in terms of functionality and building regs, yes
you can (with adequate insulation). But aesthetically - garages
and warehouses only IMO.

--
Grunff


jerrybuilt July 30th 03 06:25 PM

Asbestos garage
 
MGA wrote:
do any of you know how much (roughly) would it cost to change
the roof of an asbestos garage to a flat one? Is it worth doing
this or would it just be better to build a new garage from
scracht? It's a simple brick garage separated from the house.


Is it a pitched roof or a flat (ish) (corrugated?) asbestos
cement one? I recently converted a garage roof from flattish
to pitched. Procedu Remove steel edgings and corrugated
sheets (use a bolt cutter to snip the bolts or split the
nuts). Dispose of sheeting at tidy tip. Affix 4x2 timbers
to top of sides of garage (scarf joint in middle of each
side nailed is OK). Affix four 4x2 cross-members, one 2"
from each end, two equally spaced towards the middle. Cut
4x2 rafters and fix to cross-members and ridge board. Nail
on 2x2 battens lenghtwise. Cover roof with 1/2" Stirling
OSB. Buy corrugated iron, cut to length with angle grinder,
fic to roof (cut end at ridge) ensuring a corrugation
overhangs the edge of the Stirling board, and that enough
length protudes at bottom of sheet to shiels Stirling
board grom rain, & reach to gutters. Nail shiplap to ends.
Cut old steel edgings to weatherproof the bottom of each
shiplap end. Nail treated tiling batten under end overlaps
of corrugated iron, and nail over 100mm weatherboard pushed
up into trough of corrugated iron. Nail shiplap along sides
to seal. So:

4x2: 2 lengths of garage + 4x (width of garage + 8") + 8
rafter lengths.

2x2: 8x length of garage.

4x1: 1x length of garage.

Stirling board: Enough 8'x4' sheets

Corrugated iron: Enough sheets allowing for overlap (it may
be a good idea to select sheet length of say 5' and build
the roof to that dimension to save cutting).

Galvanised ridge pieces:4

Nails 4" bright, 2" galvanised clouts, spiral nails+washers+
caps for securing corrugated.


I don't know what prices are where you buy, but that will
give an indication. Guttering if you want it (on garden side
especially) to be added. Grunff says use square section
corrugated - I think this looks awful on a small building
like a garage. As an alternative to corrugated iron, you
could use Onduline (pitch polymer corrugated sheet) and
then you would probably be able to dispense with the
Stirling OSB which is to prevent condensation problems
with the corrugated iron.


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Matt July 31st 03 01:11 AM

Asbestos garage
 

"Grunff" wrote in message
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The modern equivalent of corrugated iron. Think any big
warehouse - e.g. B&Q or whatever - the roof will almost always
be box profile.

It's thin (0.6-0.8mm) galvanised steel that's polyester coated.
Comes in many colours.


Can you suggest anywhere to get this stuff cheap?

When we moved into our house we found a load in the garden which became the
roof of our woodshed. We now want to extend the shed but we don't know where
to get any more from.

It is marvelous stuff. It must be at least twenty years old and yet shows no
sign of age other than the fading of the colour.

Bit of a bugger to fix to wooden purlins. I think usually it's fixed to
metal ones with hooked bolts which hook under the purlins and are screwed
through the ridges of the sheets.

Matt

Matt




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Grunff July 31st 03 09:26 AM

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Matt wrote:

Can you suggest anywhere to get this stuff cheap?


I think the best bet is a local place - transport costs are
quite high, so it can make a big difference. I know a good place
in mid-Devon if that's any good to you.

Bit of a bugger to fix to wooden purlins. I think usually it's fixed to
metal ones with hooked bolts which hook under the purlins and are screwed
through the ridges of the sheets.


When I've used it (two roofs so far, one 18x5m, the other 3x4m),
I used self drilling rubber washered screws, and it was a
breeze. Put screw into socket driver, push and screw. Done.

--
Grunff


Matt July 31st 03 12:25 PM

Asbestos garage
 

"Grunff" wrote in message
...


I think the best bet is a local place - transport costs are
quite high, so it can make a big difference. I know a good place
in mid-Devon if that's any good to you.


We're up in Norfolk so a bit of a drive :-) Love it down in the West. It's
the one region we would consider leaving Norfolk for, like the rest of the
country it seems considering house prices down your way.


When I've used it (two roofs so far, one 18x5m, the other 3x4m),
I used self drilling rubber washered screws, and it was a
breeze. Put screw into socket driver, push and screw. Done.



What we did, which was a little long winded, was buy some of the long
roofing nails with the clip on caps, removed the nails and used the caps
with long screws screwed down through the ridges into the purlins. Why we
didn't use the washered self tappers as sold by Screwfix I don't know. There
was a reason but it's forgotten. I need to keep a journal :-)

Matt


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Grunff July 31st 03 12:36 PM

Asbestos garage
 
Matt wrote:

What we did, which was a little long winded, was buy some of the long
roofing nails with the clip on caps, removed the nails and used the caps
with long screws screwed down through the ridges into the purlins. Why we
didn't use the washered self tappers as sold by Screwfix I don't know. There
was a reason but it's forgotten. I need to keep a journal :-)


Blimey! No wonder it was hard work.

--
Grunff



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