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At last a Grand Design
The funny thing about the Brits is if someone moves into Britain, he or
she is subject to intense criminal investigation for being human and harried. Then they have to live in concentration camps until everyone has forgotten about them. Then they escape or get deported. However if a Brit goes abroad they make countless (and boring) television shows about them. Tonight's Grand Design was one of the best of them. I missed the first bit but was really impressed with the "go" of the couple involved. He even got around to making a staircase after getting a book on the subject. What they finished of the house restoration was impressive on the outside and remarkably beautiful on the inside. Well done them. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
I was awestruck. The job they did was incredible. If I didn't spent time
watching telly I could do that. :) I don't think. Mind you, I find Grand Designs one of the more interesting programmes. Not boring really. Our email address is "thewoodies2 at ntlworld dot com "Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:72dcab217f3a089c27d8b2b56dfd9d0e.45219@mygate .mailgate.org... The funny thing about the Brits is if someone moves into Britain, he or she is subject to intense criminal investigation for being human and harried. Then they have to live in concentration camps until everyone has forgotten about them. Then they escape or get deported. However if a Brit goes abroad they make countless (and boring) television shows about them. Tonight's Grand Design was one of the best of them. I missed the first bit but was really impressed with the "go" of the couple involved. He even got around to making a staircase after getting a book on the subject. What they finished of the house restoration was impressive on the outside and remarkably beautiful on the inside. Well done them. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 13/09/2004 |
Michael Mcneil wrote:
The funny thing about the Brits is if someone moves into Britain, he or she is subject to intense criminal investigation for being human and harried. Then they have to live in concentration camps until everyone has forgotten about them. Then they escape or get deported. maybe "they" should turn up with £140k, sans 8 kids, buy a house and get stuck in like the couple on the prog ? RT |
"Michael Mcneil" wrote
| The funny thing about the Brits is if someone moves into Britain, | he or she is subject to intense criminal investigation for being | human and harried. Then they have to live in concentration camps | until everyone has forgotten about them. Then they escape or get | deported. I don't think that applies to the French :-) | Tonight's Grand Design was one of the best of them. I missed the | first bit but was really impressed with the "go" of the couple | involved. He even got around to making a staircase after getting | a book on the subject. | What they finished of the house restoration was impressive on the | outside and remarkably beautiful on the inside. | Well done them. Didn't they do well. I'm not happy that they used Chinese slates, though I'll forgive them the internal plasterboarding as it was on studs and not actually attached to the lovely granite walls, which remain undamaged for history. But overall they didn't do anything bad and what they did was simple, honest and in keeping. Such a nice couple too, not playing Lord and Lady Muck over the locals. But if they're planning on staying for their retirement (or for the B&B business) they really should have found a corner for a lift. Interesting list of suppliers though - British plumbing and heating and a lot of other things too. Owain |
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Michael Mcneil writes The funny thing about the Brits is if someone moves into Britain, he or she is subject to intense criminal investigation for being human and harried. Then they have to live in concentration camps until everyone has forgotten about them. Then they escape or get deported. However if a Brit goes abroad they make countless (and boring) television shows about them. Tonight's Grand Design was one of the best of them. I missed the first bit but was really impressed with the "go" of the couple involved. He even got around to making a staircase after getting a book on the subject. What they finished of the house restoration was impressive on the outside and remarkably beautiful on the inside. Bugger ... missed it -- geoff |
Well done them.
Was there a total of the spend so far? I would have thought that the roof would have absorbed much of their available cash... Colin |
Mind you, I find Grand Designs one of the more interesting programmes. Not
boring really. I agree but even Grand Designs miss out on doing programmes on some of the most interesting houses - I know someone who suggested their house development be featured and was turned down by Grand Designs because their development timescale was too long. And it is a very grand design So the only houses that get featured belong to people who one way or another can throw lots of money at a project over 18 months to get it finished. And fast is rarely best in my book Anna 10 months into a 10 year project ~~ Anna Kettle, Suffolk, England |""""| ~ Lime plaster repairs / ^^ \ // Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc |____| www.kettlenet.co.uk 01359 230642 |
"Anna Kettle" wrote in message ... Mind you, I find Grand Designs one of the more interesting programmes. Not boring really. I agree but even Grand Designs miss out on doing programmes on some of the most interesting houses - I know someone who suggested their house development be featured and was turned down by Grand Designs because their development timescale was too long. And it is a very grand design So the only houses that get featured belong to people who one way or another can throw lots of money at a project over 18 months to get it finished. And fast is rarely best in my book While you may think your acquaintance has an interesting design ... look at it from 'Grand-Designs-Interesting-TV-Programme-productions" perspective. {I'm not connected in any way other than as a viewer.] The company has to incur the costs of film crew, bacon-butties, producers, directors, transport costs, studio time et. al.; before they can produce an edited programme and presumably get paid. { We'll ignore loans and other cash-flow tweaks] 18 months is probably the length (of time) that they can afford to devote to any project -granted they're splicing several projects at any one time. The programme _is_ entertainment and leaves as many subjects elided over as it covers in depth So, they can't cover every grand design just the interesting ones that'll edit down to fifty-odd minutes. IMHO. the one chronicling the man-in-the-woods, who produced the A-Frame house, didn't throw much money at the project at all! On the other hand; the Hutt-hus while interesting, was really just a couple - more power to their bank-balance- who did just order a kit of parts and stand back while it was assembled -- Brian |
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"Brian Sharrock" writes: [35 lines snipped] On the other hand; the Hutt-hus while interesting, was really just Huff, not Hutt. a couple - more power to their bank-balance- who did just order a kit of parts and stand back while it was assembled I've stopped watching it. All the programs are the same; that gloomy presenter moaning on about what a disaster it's going to be followed by "Oh, Look! It's finished and it's really good" it took you that long to spot the format ? talk about shoot the messenger! RT |
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"R Taylor" writes: Huge wrote: "Brian Sharrock" writes: [35 lines snipped] On the other hand; the Hutt-hus while interesting, was really just Huff, not Hutt. a couple - more power to their bank-balance- who did just order a kit of parts and stand back while it was assembled I've stopped watching it. All the programs are the same; that gloomy presenter moaning on about what a disaster it's going to be followed by "Oh, Look! It's finished and it's really good" it took you that long to spot the format ? How do you know when I stopped watching it? there's a web cam in your living room RT |
"Anna Kettle" wrote in message ... Mind you, I find Grand Designs one of the more interesting programmes. Not boring really. I agree but even Grand Designs miss out on doing programmes on some of the most interesting houses - I know someone who suggested their house development be featured and was turned down by Grand Designs because their development timescale was too long. And it is a very grand design So the only houses that get featured belong to people who one way or another can throw lots of money at a project over 18 months to get it finished. And fast is rarely best in my book You missed last week's then? A couple who had to turn an animal shelter (basically a roof on posts) into a four bedroom guest facility between December and October, on a budget of £16,000. They simply worked hard and pulled in every friend and family member they could. The end result was a fine building with a stone arched collonade along the front. Colin Bignell |
"Huge" wrote
| I've stopped watching it. All the programs are the same; that | gloomy presenter Who decided he was going to speak French in this episode ... wonder where the programme will visit next, China perhaps. | moaning on about what a disaster it's going to be followed by | "Oh, Look! It's finished and it's really good" But in this case it *wasn't* finished and it *was* really good. Unlike La Beeny in the hour before (the twins do a barn conversion for mummy's pension), who criticised the project throughout but when it was finished said it was fantastic, despite (a) it really wasn't (b) they completely missed their market and couldn't find anybody to rent it, (c) made hardly any profit. Owain |
They could have gone for partially finished grand designs, though
maybe that is another programme altogether. For example (though there is no way I would want to be on grand designs) this summer's project of taking the front off my house and reinstating with the original materials would have made a very good programme. Mind you, its not quite finished yet ... Anna ~~ Anna Kettle, Suffolk, England |""""| ~ Lime plaster repairs / ^^ \ // Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc |____| www.kettlenet.co.uk 01359 230642 |
Anna Kettle wrote:
They could have gone for partially finished grand designs, though maybe that is another programme altogether. Grand Designs Revisited, perhaps :o) RT |
Owain wrote:
"Huge" wrote I've stopped watching it. All the programs are the same; that gloomy presenter Who decided he was going to speak French in this episode ... wonder where the programme will visit next, China perhaps. moaning on about what a disaster it's going to be followed by "Oh, Look! It's finished and it's really good" But in this case it *wasn't* finished and it *was* really good. Unlike La Beeny in the hour before (the twins do a barn conversion for mummy's pension), who criticised the project throughout but when it was finished said it was fantastic, despite (a) it really wasn't (b) they completely missed their market and couldn't find anybody to rent it, (c) made hardly any profit. Owain La beeny ? you read pb ? ;-) RT |
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nightjar nightjar@insert_my_surname_here wrote: "Anna Kettle" wrote in message ... Mind you, I find Grand Designs one of the more interesting programmes. Not boring really. I agree but even Grand Designs miss out on doing programmes on some of the most interesting houses - I know someone who suggested their house development be featured and was turned down by Grand Designs because their development timescale was too long. And it is a very grand design So the only houses that get featured belong to people who one way or another can throw lots of money at a project over 18 months to get it finished. And fast is rarely best in my book You missed last week's then? A couple who had to turn an animal shelter (basically a roof on posts) into a four bedroom guest facility between December and October, on a budget of £16,000. They simply worked hard and pulled in every friend and family member they could. The end result was a fine building with a stone arched collonade along the front. Thats the only one in this series I've seen so-far and I was very impressed with the hard work they were putting in. (And the beaurocracy they had to face!) I loved the way they put the arches up! SWIMO wasn't impressed with them taking 3 days, so I said to her they'd get it down to 1 day after they'd done a few and thats what they managed to do. Personally thought using angle grinders rather than an olde hammer & chissel was cheating though ;) Gordon |
"Owain" wrote in message ... "Huge" wrote | I've stopped watching it. All the programs are the same; that | gloomy presenter Who decided he was going to speak French in this episode ... wonder where the programme will visit next, China perhaps. | moaning on about what a disaster it's going to be followed by | "Oh, Look! It's finished and it's really good" But in this case it *wasn't* finished and it *was* really good. Unlike La Beeny in the hour before (the twins do a barn conversion for mummy's pension), who criticised the project throughout but when it was finished said it was fantastic, despite (a) it really wasn't (b) they completely missed their market and couldn't find anybody to rent it, (c) made hardly any profit. Oh, but she always does that! She also gets very touchy when they refuse to do things her way. She is very often right though in the respect that the people doing the job often get too personal and forget that they are doing it for profit. |
Was there a total of the spend so far? I would have thought that the roof
would have absorbed much of their available cash... Colin Good call - don't think they gave the final tally Phil |
"raden" wrote in message ... In message lgate.org, Michael Mcneil writes The funny thing about the Brits is if someone moves into Britain, he or she is subject to intense criminal investigation for being human and harried. Then they have to live in concentration camps until everyone has forgotten about them. Then they escape or get deported. However if a Brit goes abroad they make countless (and boring) television shows about them. Tonight's Grand Design was one of the best of them. I missed the first bit but was really impressed with the "go" of the couple involved. He even got around to making a staircase after getting a book on the subject. What they finished of the house restoration was impressive on the outside and remarkably beautiful on the inside. Bugger ... missed it Knowing Ch4, it'll be repeated, revisited and revamped before too long. -- geoff |
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maybe "they" should turn up with £140k, sans 8 kids, buy a house and get stuck in like the couple on the prog ? Rather difficult to do when the local maffiosi want you dead for having a distant relative who once said something about them and now your village is ransacked your parents killed your crops ruined and the maffiosi in another country have taken all your money and you sisters into prostitution to pay for the trip. But still, who want's to see a film about that, eh? -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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writes "Owain" wrote in message ... Unlike La Beeny in the hour before (the twins do a barn conversion for mummy's pension), who criticised the project throughout but when it was finished said it was fantastic, despite (a) it really wasn't (b) they completely missed their market and couldn't find anybody to rent it, (c) made hardly any profit. Oh, but she always does that! She also gets very touchy when they refuse to do things her way. She is very often right though in the respect that the people doing the job often get too personal and forget that they are doing it for profit. Indeed. I loved last weeks - the two sisters doing up the art deco style house - a nice house (liked the roof top extension), totally ******** up with a disgusting interior that also lost them any profit. The 'interior' sister's face when SB told them the figure the Estate agents gave for values......... -- Chris French, Leeds |
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Was there a total of the spend so far? I would have thought that the roof would have absorbed much of their available cash... Good call - don't think they gave the final tally They got the cheapest slates but the recent weather disasters in China caused a major delay. I bet the other supplies were delayed too as they were unable to speak the patoise. How do those slate hooks work? Anyone gort any idea? They went on like tiles but I can't imagine it was an ideal fix. I'd love to know what they didn't snag about the stairs too but I am being ungenerous there. I would come unstuck I know, making them. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message news:f04bb4462802773e223f5c726875b9a2.45219@mygate .mailgate.org... They got the cheapest slates but the recent weather disasters in China caused a major delay. Those weren't the cheapest slates you can get. And actually they did look the part. How do those slate hooks work? Anyone gort any idea? They went on like tiles but I can't imagine it was an ideal fix. Look at old barns. In some areas these hooks are common, in others less so and the slates rely on friction to stay on. Does anybody know where you can get that self-fill mega-mastic gun they were using for lime mortar pointing ? Just what I need ! |
"G&M" wrote in message
Does anybody know where you can get that self-fill mega-mastic gun they were using for lime mortar pointing? Just what I need! Slow and lacking gumption. Use a gauge trowel -a round ended, pointing trowel and throw the mix into the crevices. Wipe it in with the flat of the blade and scrape the excess off for reuse. After about an hour, wire brush the stonework and it will look superb. You will cover much, much more of the work; two of you would do one whole wall in a day, no trouble. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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