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Hi people,
Never met up with this one before :-(
Applying a Dulux Rich Matt brilliant white to a very dark blue surface.
4 coats so far and still ending up with a crackle finish with the blue
showing through.
Any ideas as to where I'm going wrong?
Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Alec Powell
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"Alec Powell" wrote in message
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Hi people,
Never met up with this one before :-(
Applying a Dulux Rich Matt brilliant white to a very dark blue surface.
4 coats so far and still ending up with a crackle finish with the blue
showing through.
Any ideas as to where I'm going wrong?
Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Alec Powell


Polycel do a range called 'Undercoat' or something similar. It is a very
thick emulsion that it claims will cover dark colours with one coat (or
maybe it was two).


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"Ric" wrote in message
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"Alec Powell" wrote in message
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Hi people,
Never met up with this one before :-(
Applying a Dulux Rich Matt brilliant white to a very dark blue surface.
4 coats so far and still ending up with a crackle finish with the blue
showing through.
Any ideas as to where I'm going wrong?
Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Alec Powell


Polycel do a range called 'Undercoat' or something similar. It is a very
thick emulsion that it claims will cover dark colours with one coat (or
maybe it was two).
Could it be something on the wall before painting? spray from aerosols ,
polish, flyspray. The clue is in the crackle.



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"Alec Powell" wrote in message
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Hi people,
Never met up with this one before :-(
Applying a Dulux Rich Matt brilliant white to a very dark blue surface.
4 coats so far and still ending up with a crackle finish with the blue
showing through.
Any ideas as to where I'm going wrong?
Appreciate any help.
Cheers,
Alec Powell
--
Alec and Valerie Powell Watlington Oxon. UK


Seen this problem, my friends wife very nicely cleaned the wall with
furniture polish prior to him painting. Took several coats before the polish
was mentioned !!!. Mind you emulsion peeled off easily.


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Seen this problem, my friends wife very nicely cleaned the wall with
furniture polish prior to him painting. Took several coats before the polish
was mentioned !!!. Mind you emulsion peeled off easily.



A similar effect can be obtained with emulsion over gloss paint.

Nice.

Strip it all off. Sand lightly. Apply some PVA. Use acrylic not
emulsion. Mix a little blue with the first couple of coats of white.
Final coat or several of white.

And there you are.

Or you could use walpaper instead. Just nail some sheets of paper to the
wall. Fill in the nail holes and sand down the filler.


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In message lgate.org,
Michael Mcneil writes
Mix a little blue with the first couple of coats of white.


What point can there be in that?


And there you are.

Or you could use walpaper instead. Just nail some sheets of paper to the
wall. Fill in the nail holes and sand down the filler.


Nail?
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Alec Powell wrote in message ...
Hi people,
Never met up with this one before :-(
Applying a Dulux Rich Matt brilliant white to a very dark blue surface.
4 coats so far and still ending up with a crackle finish with the blue
showing through.
Any ideas as to where I'm going wrong?
Appreciate any help.

Dulux emulsions have given me nothing but trouble over the last couple of
years. I've had that crackle look on bare plasterboard, new plaster, and
sealed new plaster. I just wish my customers wouldn't buy the stuff.
Most recently I've ended up with a textured look when rolling on to new
plaster yet, in the same room, Crown emulsion has delivered the perfect
finish by the same method.
Perish the thought, but I think Dulux have made a ballsup of their
formulation.



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Dulux emulsions have given me nothing but trouble over the last couple of
years. I've had that crackle look on bare plasterboard, new plaster, and
sealed new plaster. I just wish my customers wouldn't buy the stuff.


New plaster would require "SuperMatt" rather than standard emulsion. Perhaps
they just bought the standard stuff?

Christian.


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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, stuart noble, gave forth these words of wisdom:
Dulux emulsions have given me nothing but trouble over the last couple of
years. I've had that crackle look on bare plasterboard, new plaster, and
sealed new plaster. I just wish my customers wouldn't buy the stuff.
Most recently I've ended up with a textured look when rolling on to new
plaster yet, in the same room, Crown emulsion has delivered the perfect
finish by the same method.
Perish the thought, but I think Dulux have made a ballsup of their
formulation.

Now it's funny that you should mention this Stuart.
I have just finished one room right next to the problem one.
I used Crown emulsion over a pretty dark finish there and never had any
problems.
My solution to the problem in hand has been to use some Focus/Do it All
vinyl silk as an undercoat and finished with the Dulux Matt, ( the Focus
paint went on a treat BTW). Not the best of finishes but SWMBO is happy
with the end result so I'll leave it at that. I would have thrown the
Dulux out if I could have afforded it but it's too bloody expensive! :-(
Next time it's Crown for me.
Cheers all, for your replies,
Alec Powell, (thinking of an email to Dulux for their comments on
this.....)
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Christian McArdle wrote in message
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Dulux emulsions have given me nothing but trouble over the last couple of
years. I've had that crackle look on bare plasterboard, new plaster, and
sealed new plaster. I just wish my customers wouldn't buy the stuff.


New plaster would require "SuperMatt" rather than standard emulsion.

Perhaps
they just bought the standard stuff?

I'm really not interested in Dulux's marketing games. Super matt my arse!
:-)




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New plaster would require "SuperMatt" rather than standard emulsion.

I'm really not interested in Dulux's marketing games. Super matt my arse!


Indeed it would be better named "New Plaster" emulsion, given that it is a
special purpose product.

Christian.


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In message lgate.org,
Michael Mcneil writes
Mix a little blue with the first couple of coats of white.


What point can there be in that?




The blue stops the substrate grinning. It absorbs/reflects blue
frequency light going in and coming out.


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In message lgate.org,
Michael Mcneil writes
"chris French" wrote in message


In message lgate.org,
Michael Mcneil writes
Mix a little blue with the first couple of coats of white.


What point can there be in that?




The blue stops the substrate grinning. It absorbs/reflects blue
frequency light going in and coming out.

Well it will either absorb it or reflect it............

Sorry, sounds like a pointless activity to me, but I really can't be
bothered to argue the toss.
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