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Why do some people raise their voice at the end of every sentence? It sounds like they're asking a question. Glaswegians and Australians are particularly bad for it. Are they unsure of everything they say and are seeking confirmation?

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On 13/06/2021 04:50 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do some people raise their voice at the end of every sentence? It
sounds like they're asking a question. Glaswegians and Australians are
particularly bad for it. Are they unsure of everything they say and are
seeking confirmation?


It is known as the "rising inflection" or "high rising terminal".

It does seem to be characteristic of (some) Australians, but has been
spreading among young and presumably impressionable people in the UK
over the last few decades (possibly because of the prevalence of
Australian soap opera on TV) and in the USA (West Coast, mainly) before
that.

AIUI, linguists do indeed associate the tendency with persons lacking in
social power, authority and confidence and thereby, a lack of
self-esteem. By changing the intonation of a statement into that of a
question, they are constantly seeking reassurance and approval.

There's a reasonable discussion of it at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal
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FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 17:00:29 +0100, JNugent, another demented, notorious,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:


It is known as the "rising inflection" or "high rising terminal".


Nope, senile asshole, it is known as TROLLING and your idiotic senile
feedback is known as TROLL-FEEDING! Capisci?
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Default OT: Rise in pitch at the end of every sentence

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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Why do some people raise their voice at the end of every sentence? It
sounds like they're asking a question. Glaswegians and Australians are
particularly bad for it. Are they unsure of everything they say and are
seeking confirmation?


I think a sentence like "I saw Helen (?) in Tesco (?) and she said that she
and James (?) were expecting a baby." (where "(?)" denotes a rising tone)
there is an implied "You know Helen, don't you?", "You know where Tesco is,
don't you?" and "You've met James, haven't you?" - as if the speaker is
constantly seeking confirmation that the listener knows who/what the speaker
is talking about.

It's referred to as "up-talk" (because the pitch goes up at the end of each
clause/sentence) and it's said to have come across to the UK either from
West Coast USA or from Australian soaps such as Neighbours.



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Default OT: Rise in pitch at the end of every sentence

On 6/13/21 12:50 PM, NY wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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Why do some people raise their voice at the end of every sentence? It
sounds like they're asking a question. Glaswegians and Australians are
particularly bad for it. Are they unsure of everything they say and
are seeking confirmation?


I think a sentence like "I saw Helen (?) in Tesco (?) and she said that
she and James (?) were expecting a baby." (where "(?)" denotes a rising
tone) there is an implied "You know Helen, don't you?", "You know where
Tesco is, don't you?" and "You've met James, haven't you?" - as if the
speaker is constantly seeking confirmation that the listener knows
who/what the speaker is talking about.

It's referred to as "up-talk" (because the pitch goes up at the end of
each clause/sentence) and it's said to have come across to the UK either
from West Coast USA or from Australian soaps such as Neighbours.


35 years ago (?) a Canadian co-worker(?) in Utah(?)spoke like this (?).

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Default Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 17:50:06 +0100, NY, the really endlessly blathering,
notorious, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered, yet again:


I think


Are you sure, troll-feeding senile asshole? Senilely sure? BG
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Default OT: Rise in pitch at the end of every sentence

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 17:00:29 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 13/06/2021 04:50 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do some people raise their voice at the end of every sentence? It
sounds like they're asking a question. Glaswegians and Australians are
particularly bad for it. Are they unsure of everything they say and are
seeking confirmation?


It is known as the "rising inflection" or "high rising terminal".

It does seem to be characteristic of (some) Australians, but has been
spreading among young and presumably impressionable people in the UK
over the last few decades (possibly because of the prevalence of
Australian soap opera on TV) and in the USA (West Coast, mainly) before
that.

AIUI, linguists do indeed associate the tendency with persons lacking in
social power, authority and confidence and thereby, a lack of
self-esteem. By changing the intonation of a statement into that of a
question, they are constantly seeking reassurance and approval.


Thought so, and I'm thankful you've reassured me others think the same :-)

There's a reasonable discussion of it at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal

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Default OT: Rise in pitch at the end of every sentence

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 17:59:19 +0100, wrote:

On 6/13/21 12:50 PM, NY wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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Why do some people raise their voice at the end of every sentence? It
sounds like they're asking a question. Glaswegians and Australians are
particularly bad for it. Are they unsure of everything they say and
are seeking confirmation?


I think a sentence like "I saw Helen (?) in Tesco (?) and she said that
she and James (?) were expecting a baby." (where "(?)" denotes a rising
tone) there is an implied "You know Helen, don't you?", "You know where
Tesco is, don't you?" and "You've met James, haven't you?" - as if the
speaker is constantly seeking confirmation that the listener knows
who/what the speaker is talking about.

It's referred to as "up-talk" (because the pitch goes up at the end of
each clause/sentence) and it's said to have come across to the UK either
from West Coast USA or from Australian soaps such as Neighbours.


35 years ago (?) a Canadian co-worker(?) in Utah(?)spoke like this (?).


I like to respond with "why are you asking me, it's you telling the story".
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 17:50:06 +0100, NY wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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Why do some people raise their voice at the end of every sentence? It
sounds like they're asking a question. Glaswegians and Australians are
particularly bad for it. Are they unsure of everything they say and are
seeking confirmation?


I think a sentence like "I saw Helen (?) in Tesco (?) and she said that she
and James (?) were expecting a baby." (where "(?)" denotes a rising tone)
there is an implied "You know Helen, don't you?", "You know where Tesco is,
don't you?" and "You've met James, haven't you?" - as if the speaker is
constantly seeking confirmation that the listener knows who/what the speaker
is talking about.


And is very irritating. If you're saying something and you're unsure of several pieces of knowledge in the other person's mind, you're doing it wrong.

It's referred to as "up-talk" (because the pitch goes up at the end of each
clause/sentence) and it's said to have come across to the UK either from
West Coast USA or from Australian soaps such as Neighbours.



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