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The election paper for the local Police commissioner wants a first and
second choice.

Are ballot papers that only have first choice marked considered as spoilt?

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On 02/05/2021 18:17, alan_m wrote:

The election paper for the local Police commissioner wants a first and
second choice.

Are ballot papers that only have first choice marked considered as spoilt?

It tells you in the leaflet.

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The election paper for the local Police commissioner wants a first and
second choice.

Are ballot papers that only have first choice marked considered as
spoilt?

It tells you in the leaflet.


Not in the postal vote pack I got.
The instruction is to put a cross in both columns (and they must be
different) but nothing about not wanting any of the second choice
candidates.

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No as long as you don't put it in the 2nd choice column. No I don't know
why, but this was the London Mayoral answer I got, so I'm assuming its the
same for all the posts.
I guess they expect you to put in your choice and if you don't have one
its not going to be a second choice, is it? Its still a first!

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The election paper for the local Police commissioner wants a first and
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I don't think its in London Elects either since I had to ask, I guess it
makes sense as I said earlier.

The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do you
know they are all competent and do they actually do anything. I particularly
do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to effectively charge
all motorists to enter greater London, which will chase away all employers
from the greater London area, in my view.
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On 02/05/2021 18:33, williamwright wrote:
On 02/05/2021 18:17, alan_m wrote:

The election paper for the local Police commissioner wants a first and
second choice.

Are ballot papers that only have first choice marked considered as
spoilt?

It tells you in the leaflet.


Not in the postal vote pack I got.
The instruction is to put a cross in both columns (and they must be
different) but nothing about not wanting any of the second choice
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I don't think its in London Elects either since I had to ask, I guess it
makes sense as I said earlier.

The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do you
know they are all competent and do they actually do anything.


'Apparently', you have to dedicate the rest of your life doing
research (till you get to a place where you can make on informed
decision, versus what most people actually do and go with hearsay or
toss a coin, both potentially being more dangerous than even not
voting but fully represents what our democracy is about).

I particularly
do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to effectively charge
all motorists to enter greater London,


Isn't it mainly the ones that are killing the locals with their
pollution? Locals who in many cases don't have (can't afford) or don't
use cars themselves?

which will chase away all employers
from the greater London area, in my view.


I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere. ;-)

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T i m wrote
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The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how
do you know they are all competent and do they actually do anything.


By checking if the current one up for re-election has done a decent
job so far by checking the stats on crimes charged and convicted etc.

'Apparently', you have to dedicate the rest of your life
doing research (till you get to a place where you can
make on informed decision, versus what most people
actually do and go with hearsay or toss a coin,


Nope, just don't bother to vote if you decide that
you have no way of deciding who would be better.

both potentially being more dangerous than even not voting


Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

but fully represents what our democracy is about).


Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

I particularly do not like the current London Mayor since he wants
to effectively charge all motorists to enter greater London,


Isn't it mainly the ones that are killing the locals with their pollution?


Nope.

Locals who in many cases don't have (can't afford)
or don't use cars themselves?


Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

which will chase away all employers
from the greater London area, in my view.


I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere. ;-)


Bit hard with a train driver etc, stupid.

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On 02/05/2021 21:52, Rod Speed wrote:

By checking if the current one up for re-election has done a decent
job so far by checking the stats on crimes charged and convicted etc.


The last election in one of the more rural counties I was visiting at
the time the incumbent Police commissioner went on social media
indicating that [paraphrasing] Policing of rural areas was difficult and
the local community had to take more responsibility. This was followed
by a tour of the district where members of the public were urged to
attend the meetings to discuss his proposals. A bit later his message to
electorate had been changed as a few people had asked him how to set up
their own vigilante groups


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By checking if the current one up for re-election has done a decent
job so far by checking the stats on crimes charged and convicted etc.


But that risks the bugger playing silly buggers to make the stats look good.

The last election in one of the more rural counties I was visiting at the
time the incumbent Police commissioner went on social media indicating
that [paraphrasing] Policing of rural areas was difficult and the local
community had to take more responsibility. This was followed by a tour of
the district where members of the public were urged to attend the meetings
to discuss his proposals. A bit later his message to electorate had been
changed as a few people had asked him how to set up their own vigilante
groups


Bit of an unintended consequences there, eh :-(

Glad its not my job.



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On 02/05/2021 19:10, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I don't think its in London Elects either since I had to ask, I guess it
makes sense as I said earlier.

The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do you
know they are all competent and do they actually do anything. I particularly
do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to effectively charge
all motorists to enter greater London, which will chase away all employers
from the greater London area, in my view.
Brian


Given that Greater London area has better public transport than most
cities I can't see the issue.


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The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do
you know they are all competent and do they actually do anything. I
particularly do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to
effectively charge all motorists to enter greater London, which will
chase away all employers from the greater London area, in my view.
Brian


Are you talking about the extended ultra low emission zone, Brian?

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Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:
The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do
you know they are all competent and do they actually do anything. I
particularly do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to
effectively charge all motorists to enter greater London, which will
chase away all employers from the greater London area, in my view.
Brian


Are you talking about the extended ultra low emission zone, Brian?

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On 03/05/2021 08:57, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 21:38:37 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere.
;-)


Unfortunately working from home I don't have a library,

e-books

cobbler,

mail order
dry
cleaner,


if you bnever go out you dobt need a suit aor dry cleaning

watch repairer,
online

bank,
online

dentist,

I'll give you that one

Screwfux, Toolsatan, Wickes,
onlune

Morrison's, Waitrose,

online

TKMax, M&S, Greggs, Primark, or a lot of other
things which I need a trip 'to the city' for.

all online

Sheep on the hills are all very well, but I'm 7 miles from an
independent coffee roastery.

*dshrug* do they do deliveries?

500 financial sector jobs would be very welcome here. Not that any
company with sense would invest in the Separatist Scottish Socialist
Republic at the moment.

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On Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 21:38:37 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere. ;-)


Unfortunately working from home I don't have a library, cobbler, dry cleaner, watch repairer, bank, dentist, Screwfux, Toolsatan, Wickes, Morrison's, Waitrose, TKMax, M&S, Greggs, Primark, or a lot of other things which I need a trip 'to the city' for.


And what has your poor choice of home location got to do with working
from home? We can actually walk to every one of those (well, except
Primark and we don't generally shop there because of their poor human
rights / manufacturing policies).

Sheep on the hills are all very well, but I'm 7 miles from an independent coffee roastery.


Awww, that must be such a hardship for you. Luckily our house is big
enough that we can keep a few jars of instant de-caffinated coffee in
our cupboards between daughters shopping trips.

Well done for going without and not *driving* into civilisation
frequently and the pollution you don't then create. ;-)

500 financial sector jobs would be very welcome here. Not that any company with sense would invest in the Separatist Scottish Socialist Republic at the moment.


;-)

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The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how
do you know they are all competent and do they actually do anything.


By checking if the current one up for re-election has done a decent
job so far by checking the stats on crimes charged and convicted etc.


The PCCs job is strategy, not operation

Stats on charges and convictions tell you very little about whether (s)he
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I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere. ;-)


Unfortunately working from home I don't have a library, cobbler, dry
cleaner, watch repairer, bank, dentist, Screwfux, Toolsatan, Wickes,
Morrison's, Waitrose, TKMax, M&S, Greggs, Primark, or a lot of other
things which I need a trip 'to the city' for.

Sheep on the hills are all very well, but I'm 7 miles from an independent
coffee roastery.


if you're that fussy, roasting you own coffee is a trivial DIY task




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On Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 21:38:37 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere.
;-)


Unfortunately working from home I don't have a library,

e-books

cobbler,

mail order


mail order shoe repairs?

wow



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I don't think its in London Elects either since I had to ask, I guess it
makes sense as I said earlier.

The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do
you
know they are all competent and do they actually do anything. I
particularly
do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to effectively charge
all motorists to enter greater London, which will chase away all
employers
from the greater London area, in my view.
Brian


Given that Greater London area has better public transport than most
cities I can't see the issue.


If you live in London it's great

but if you're coming in, to work in the suburbs, from outside, it's a ****
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Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:
The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do
you know they are all competent and do they actually do anything. I
particularly do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to
effectively charge all motorists to enter greater London, which will
chase away all employers from the greater London area, in my view.
Brian


Are you talking about the extended ultra low emission zone, Brian?


No

there's a proposal for a change for all cars entering the authority area



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Are you talking about the extended ultra low emission zone, Brian?


No
there's a proposal for a change for all cars entering the authority area


aka the "Greater London Boundary Charge"

Why should London councils get the VED paid by their locals? It's not
as though councils in other parts of the country get the VED from their
own locals, is it?

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/mayor-ministers-must-play-fair-by-london
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On 02/05/2021 19:10, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I don't think its in London Elects either since I had to ask, I guess
it makes sense as I said earlier.

The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how do
you know they are all competent and do they actually do anything. I
particularly do not like the current London Mayor since he wants to
effectively charge all motorists to enter greater London, which will
chase away all employers from the greater London area, in my view.
Brian


Given that Greater London area has better public transport than most
cities I can't see the issue.


If you live in London it's great


but if you're coming in, to work in the suburbs, from outside, it's a
**** option


Which is why I'm going to my dentist my car tomorrow. Much quicker and I
don't have to mingle in public transport



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Are you talking about the extended ultra low emission zone, Brian?


No
there's a proposal for a change for all cars entering the authority area


aka the "Greater London Boundary Charge"

Why should London councils get the VED paid by their locals? It's not as
though councils in other parts of the country get the VED from their own
locals, is it?


because in other council areas upkeep of trunk roads is funded by the
Treasury

in London they are funded by the Mayor

Of course, there are alternative solutions to the one suggested



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The PCCs job is strategy, not operation

Stats on charges and convictions tell you very little about whether (s)he
has done a good job in the past

Quite and further highlights how some people can be easily swayed by
the wrong information.

Slagging off the local council for not collecting your plastic
recycling ... because you contaminated it with stuff not on the
documented list ... and then they only get a fraction of the value
from the recycler ... then they can't offset the cost of collecting
the waste so effectively ... and so have to put *everyone's* rates up.

All the idiot complaining that their recycling wasn't collected sees
is that their recycling wasn't collected, blaming the council not
themselves.

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but if you're coming in, to work in the suburbs, from outside, it's a ****
option


Then change your job?

I made a point of not working where I needed anything other than a
simple / short commute, simply because I realised it was more stress,
more pollution, more risk and I'd spend more unpaid time 'at work'
than working more local for (possibly but not always and especially
given all the above), less money.

The longest door to door commute was 30 mins (walk, train, walk) and I
hated every second of it.

The best was a 5 min walk (10 years). ;-)

I was offered a very well paid job that initially involved a ****
drive likely to be at best 1 hour each way and I (politely) turned it
down because I knew the commuting would get to me sooner or later.

They then offered me a similar post that meant an easier drive in a
better direction, same prediction, same outcome.

They then offered me an option on the second location, allowing me to
work from home several days a week but even that wasn't good enough to
offset that daily waste of time.

I had a mate who lived in Clacton and worked in the City of London.
2,5 hours each way or something (by train), initially told me it was
ok (he could read or talk to the Mrs on the days they were both going
in).

Then he moved to Colchester 'because it was closer'?

Then he moved to Chadwell Heath 'because it was really close'.

Why did he do that if in fact, 5 hours commuting each day was 'ok'?

It's funny how we defend / try to justify some of the things we do,
even when they are obviously bad / illogical.

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Which is why I'm going to my dentist my car tomorrow. Much quicker and I
don't have to mingle in public transport

If I was going to mine I'd walk as then I don't have to try and find a
parking space (that would probably take longer itself than walking
there). ;-)

It does take twice as long to walk to the doctors than the dentist
though (6 minutes). ;-)

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On Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 21:38:37 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere.
;-)

Unfortunately working from home I don't have a library,

e-books

cobbler,

mail order


mail order shoe repairs?

wow

Whilst I've never tried, the only thing that could be an issue with
nearly anyone dealing with such a thing where you don't have to be
present is them being able to send it back?

Most shoe / key places *will* have regular deliveries of stuff (stock,
general office supplies, machinery spares and consumables etc) so a
show-box with some shoes that need work wouldn't be difficult. The
tricky bit (possibly pre lookdown) would be what facilities they might
have to be able to post stuff back, especially if they work on their
own (no chance to get to the Post Office etc).

I would have thought that it would be easy for them to arrange such a
thing though (again, especially these days), even if they don't have
anything in place right now.

I know my mate in the PC show deals with mail-in repairs and upgrades
but then he has regular courier collections as he sells lots of stuff
over the Internet (again, especially during the lockdown).

Even the tropical fish and plant places will send stuff though the
mail, although the losses (tropical fish) can be quite high. ;-(

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but if you're coming in, to work in the suburbs, from outside, it's a
**** option


Then change your job?


do they grow on trees?

I made a point of not working where I needed anything other than a simple
/ short commute, simply because I realised it was more stress, more
pollution, more risk and I'd spend more unpaid time 'at work' than
working more local for (possibly but not always and especially given all
the above), less money.


The longest door to door commute was 30 mins (walk, train, walk) and I
hated every second of it.


The best was a 5 min walk (10 years). ;-)


I was offered a very well paid job that initially involved a **** drive
likely to be at best 1 hour each way and I (politely) turned it down
because I knew the commuting would get to me sooner or later.


They then offered me a similar post that meant an easier drive in a
better direction, same prediction, same outcome.


They then offered me an option on the second location, allowing me to
work from home several days a week but even that wasn't good enough to
offset that daily waste of time.


I had a mate who lived in Clacton and worked in the City of London. 2,5
hours each way or something (by train), initially told me it was ok (he
could read or talk to the Mrs on the days they were both going in).


Then he moved to Colchester 'because it was closer'?


Then he moved to Chadwell Heath 'because it was really close'.


Why did he do that if in fact, 5 hours commuting each day was 'ok'?


It's funny how we defend / try to justify some of the things we do, even
when they are obviously bad / illogical.


Cheers, T i m


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wrote:

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The PCCs job is strategy, not operation

Stats on charges and convictions tell you very little about whether (s)he
has done a good job in the past

Quite and further highlights how some people can be easily swayed by
the wrong information.

Slagging off the local council for not collecting your plastic
recycling ... because you contaminated it with stuff not on the
documented list ... and then they only get a fraction of the value
from the recycler ... then they can't offset the cost of collecting
the waste so effectively ... and so have to put *everyone's* rates up.

All the idiot complaining that their recycling wasn't collected sees
is that their recycling wasn't collected, blaming the council not
themselves.


But in my area all the multi-million pound follies are there for all to
see and even the council have admitted they have made mistakes.

I see from my local council news letter that they have finished with a
road improvement project which, with a series of other road
improvements, has meant many years of major traffic disruption. Good
news you may think but....

The road improvement included extending a right turn lane as well as
providing more lane space for those travelling straight on. The problem
with the latter is that as soon as the junction is cleared three lanes
immediately go back to two. The former improvement has resulted in a
narrowing of the central reservation area. Now they seem to have
discovered that they need a pedestrian crossing in the same place and
the central reservation is too narrow for a pedestrian safety island -
guess what they are going to do next?


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but if you're coming in, to work in the suburbs, from outside, it's a
**** option


Then change your job?


do they grow on trees?


What, are you saying it's impossible?

When I got 'fed up' with commuting into the City (by train) I got a
local job?

Now if you are the Mayor of London I guess you should also work there,
or run a shop there etc but otherwise ... ;-)

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if you bnever go out you dobt need a suit aor dry cleaning


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On Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 21:38:37 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere. ;-)


Unfortunately working from home I don't have a library, cobbler, dry
cleaner, watch repairer, bank, dentist, Screwfux, Toolsatan, Wickes,
Morrison's, Waitrose, TKMax, M&S, Greggs, Primark, or a lot of other
things which I need a trip 'to the city' for.

Sheep on the hills are all very well, but I'm 7 miles from an
independent coffee roastery.


if you're that fussy, roasting you own coffee is a trivial DIY task




Ditto roasting your own 'back garden' wooly bushmeat
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All the idiot complaining that their recycling wasn't collected sees
is that their recycling wasn't collected, blaming the council not
themselves.


But in my area all the multi-million pound follies are there for all to
see and even the council have admitted they have made mistakes.


I'm sure they get it wrong, not helped by the idiot residents who
can't seem to follow simple instructions.

I see from my local council news letter that they have finished with a
road improvement project which, with a series of other road
improvements, has meant many years of major traffic disruption. Good
news you may think but....

The road improvement included extending a right turn lane as well as
providing more lane space for those travelling straight on. The problem
with the latter is that as soon as the junction is cleared three lanes
immediately go back to two. The former improvement has resulted in a
narrowing of the central reservation area. Now they seem to have
discovered that they need a pedestrian crossing in the same place and
the central reservation is too narrow for a pedestrian safety island -
guess what they are going to do next?


LOL.

Is that local council or county highways stuff though?

And that (once again) brings me back to us voting these people in who
are expecting to be selected based on whatever promises they write on
a bit of paper then stick though your door?

What is their skillset, experience, how much time and energy can the
offer to the role etc?

I have known of many people who have accepted a role I (and they in
some cases) know they aren't really equipped for and in some cases
when I knew they were unlikely to ever be. The only question then is
how much damage they cause before everone else sees that and they get
the elbow.

So it's like any competition when the 'World Champion' isn't really
ever likely to be 'the best', it's just 'the best' of those who wanted
/ bothered / could turn up.

I wouldn't put myself forward for any role where politics were a major
part as I know how bogus it can and will continue be until really good
people are given these key roles, rather than those who hold their
hand the highest.

The 'good people' are likely best voted in by those who actually know
them and of their long term work / personal ethics.

How likely it is to do that ITRW is another matter. [1]

Cheers, T i m

[1] One way would be if from within a group of people they (secret
ballot) voted for those people that 'the people' knew and considered
to be the best people for that role, even if they didn't actually put
themselves up for it. They would still have the option *not* to accept
of course but they may accept a role even if they wouldn't consider
personally that they would be suitable.

'Who do you think would be the best person for this job?', rather than
'who would you pick from this bad bunch?'.
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Which is why I'm going to my dentist my car tomorrow. Much quicker and I
don't have to mingle in public transport

If I was going to mine I'd walk as then I don't have to try and find a
parking space (that would probably take longer itself than walking
there). ;-)


There is a dentist abouut 40 minutes walk away, but local advice is 'don't
bother'. I'll stick with the practice I've been using for about 30 years.


It does take twice as long to walk to the doctors than the dentist
though (6 minutes). ;-)


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Which is why I'm going to my dentist my car tomorrow. Much quicker and I
don't have to mingle in public transport

If I was going to mine I'd walk as then I don't have to try and find a
parking space (that would probably take longer itself than walking
there). ;-)


There is a dentist abouut 40 minutes walk away, but local advice is 'don't
bother'. I'll stick with the practice I've been using for about 30 years.

Agreed, if you are happy with their services etc.

Again, I have a choice of about 5 dentists within a short walk, not
generally the same for those that live in the sticks.

We do enjoy the country and being a bit 'remote' (holidays and the
like) but that can soon wear thin when you *have* to use some form of
transport to simply get some essentials or to essential services.

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I thought with working from home we could actually be anywhere.
;-)

Unfortunately working from home I don't have a library,
e-books

cobbler,

mail order


mail order shoe repairs?

wow

Whilst I've never tried, the only thing that could be an issue with
nearly anyone dealing with such a thing where you don't have to be
present is them being able to send it back?


The not just sending it back, there's also sending it there

and the problem is that the value of the order to the cobble is an order of
magnitude less than the intrinsic value of the item

The cobbler has to take on responsibility for getting back to you a 50 pound
pair of shoes, for a 5 pound repair fee

Most shoe / key places *will* have regular deliveries of stuff (stock,
general office supplies, machinery spares and consumables etc) so a
show-box with some shoes that need work wouldn't be difficult. The
tricky bit (possibly pre lookdown) would be what facilities they might
have to be able to post stuff back, especially if they work on their
own (no chance to get to the Post Office etc).

I would have thought that it would be easy for them to arrange such a
thing though (again, especially these days), even if they don't have
anything in place right now.

I know my mate in the PC show deals with mail-in repairs and upgrades
but then he has regular courier collections as he sells lots of stuff
over the Internet (again, especially during the lockdown).

Even the tropical fish and plant places will send stuff though the
mail, although the losses (tropical fish) can be quite high. ;-(


there's a high mark up on the cost of the item when selling it to you that
covers this cost

there's no mark up on repairs that can reasonably cover the value of items
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Which is why I'm going to my dentist my car tomorrow. Much quicker and I
don't have to mingle in public transport

If I was going to mine I'd walk as then I don't have to try and find a
parking space (that would probably take longer itself than walking
there). ;-)


There is a dentist abouut 40 minutes walk away, but local advice is 'don't
bother'. I'll stick with the practice I've been using for about 30 years.

Agreed, if you are happy with their services etc.

Again, I have a choice of about 5 dentists within a short walk,


That's handy as most normal people want to kick your teeth in.


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The question is, quite how do you decide about a police person, how
do you know they are all competent and do they actually do anything.


By checking if the current one up for re-election has done a decent
job so far by checking the stats on crimes charged and convicted etc.


The PCCs job is strategy, not operation


But it's the strategy that determines the outcomes.

Stats on charges and convictions tell you very little about whether (s)he
has done a good job in the past


It does tell you what outcomes have been achieved particularly
when you consider improvements in outcomes.

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