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Jimmy Stewart ... February 4th 21 11:22 AM

OT my new premium bonds
 
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee

Jimmy Stewart ... February 4th 21 11:47 AM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:22:24 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee


It'll be £25. Anything more is rare. How much have you invested? Don't
expect another for a while.

15K YES £25 MUTTER MUTTER.... well better than 0.01 % with instant
access ISA with RBS

Jimmy Stewart ... February 4th 21 11:53 AM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 11:47, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:22:24 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee


It'll be £25. Anything more is rare. How much have you invested? Don't
expect another for a while.

15K YES £25 MUTTER MUTTER.... well better than 0.01 % with instant
access ISA with RBS

which is £15 ....

Jimmy Stewart ... February 4th 21 11:57 AM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 11:47, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:22:24 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee


It'll be £25. Anything more is rare. How much have you invested? Don't
expect another for a while.

15K YES £25 MUTTER MUTTER.... well better than 0.01 % with instant
access ISA with RBS


I don't get it the wife has her stash with The Natiowide and she is
getting loads compaired to that ....hundreds

Andrew[_22_] February 4th 21 12:23 PM

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On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee


Last year a bond entering the draw for the first time won
the million pound prize. There have always been rumours that
premium bond 'wins' are how the UK government spooks departments
pay their informants.

alan_m February 4th 21 12:26 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 11:57, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:47, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:22:24 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST
DRAW........tee hee

It'll be £25. Anything more is rare. How much have you invested? Don't
expect another for a while.

15K YES £25 MUTTER MUTTER.... well better than 0.01 % with instant
access ISA with RBS


I don't get it the wife has her stash with The Natiowide and she is
getting loads compaired to that ....hundreds



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Andrew[_22_] February 4th 21 01:03 PM

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On 04/02/2021 11:47, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:22:24 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee


It'll be £25. Anything more is rare. How much have you invested? Don't
expect another for a while.

15K YES £25 MUTTER MUTTER.... well better than 0.01 % with instant
access ISA with RBS


I had a £25 win this month. Nothing for the last 2 months.

I had 6 at £25 in May last year, not long after I had
sold 2/3rd of my holdings and bought new bonds.

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.

newshound February 4th 21 01:04 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee


I bought £10k in October and got £50 on my first draw in November,
another £25 now in February.

Andrew[_22_] February 4th 21 01:13 PM

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On 04/02/2021 11:53, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:47, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:22:24 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST
DRAW........tee hee

It'll be £25. Anything more is rare. How much have you invested? Don't
expect another for a while.

15K YES £25 MUTTER MUTTER.... well better than 0.01 % with instant
access ISA with RBS

which is £15 ....


Why do people bother with cash ISAs ?. Even prior to 2020 they had
a worse interest rate than a normal deposit account. Now that you
get interest paid gross and you can earn £1000 from savings
(£500 for higher rate taxpayers) a cash ISA is nonsense. If you
had more than £20,000 though it would be much more sensible to
convert it to a share ISA because the annual limit for adding to
a share ISA is £20K. Then put it in a global investment trust
or fund. DYOR carefully !, though you won't go far wrong with funds
from Vanguard. Just watch out for platform charges which vary
enormously.

newshound February 4th 21 01:26 PM

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On 04/02/2021 13:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:03:03 +0000, Andrew
wrote:

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.


+1

But if true, wouldn't that amount to fraud, given that they are
advertised as being completely random. It seems an unlikely way for NS&I
to act, given that it is testable.


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] February 4th 21 02:26 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST DRAW........tee hee


I bought £10k in October and got £50 on my first draw in November,
another £25 now in February.


I bought £10K of a certain fund in October. It's currently worth £13,000

**** premium bonds

COVID and Brexit making me a decent living...shame I didn't sell my oil
shares



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always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

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Jimmy Stewart ... February 4th 21 02:30 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 14:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST DRAW........tee hee


I bought £10k in October and got £50 on my first draw in November,
another £25 now in February.


I bought £10K of a certain fund in October. It's currently worth £13,000

**** premium bonds

COVID and Brexit making me a decent living...shame I didn't sell my oil
shares



you gamble then ?...

Andrew[_22_] February 4th 21 02:45 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 14:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST DRAW........tee hee


I bought £10k in October and got £50 on my first draw in November,
another £25 now in February.


I bought £10K of a certain fund in October. It's currently worth £13,000

**** premium bonds

COVID and Brexit making me a decent living...shame I didn't sell my oil
shares



Encashed PB's will be in your bank account in 3 Wdays of you do it
online, so it's a convenient place to stash some cash that you know
you will need access to at some point and quite quickly, by which time
you might have won something.

You would have more than doubled your money by buying Baillie Gifford
funds and IT's in Late march or April. Even if you bought them in
Feb 2020 you would still be up.

Andrew[_22_] February 4th 21 02:46 PM

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On 04/02/2021 14:30, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST DRAW........tee hee

I bought £10k in October and got £50 on my first draw in November,
another £25 now in February.


I bought £10K of a certain fund in October. It's currently worth £13,000

**** premium bonds

COVID and Brexit making me a decent living...shame I didn't sell my
oil shares



you gamble then ?...


Not if he sat on oil shares while they fell off a cliff.

alan_m February 4th 21 02:57 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 13:26, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:03:03 +0000, Andrew
wrote:

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.


+1

But if true, wouldn't that amount to fraud, given that they are
advertised as being completely random. It seems an unlikely way for NS&I
to act, given that it is testable.


+1

Often the drop off in winnings is down to an interest cut so fewer £25
prizes to give out. This has been happening for a decade or more in line
with other cash savings products. It's nothing to do with this mythical
new bonds give more prizes.

Late last year NS&I cut the interest rates on all their products
including premium bonds, albeit the premium bonds are still relatively
competitive with many other cash type investments. Most of the other
NS&I products went from 1%+ interest to near zero (0.05%).

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alan_m February 4th 21 03:11 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST DRAW........tee hee


I bought £10k in October and got £50 on my first draw in November,
another £25 now in February.



The prize fund is currently 1% so £10K would generate £100 a year in
prizes. On average, you could "win" a single prize approx every 3.5
months, which could be the million rather than £25. Prizes are tax free.

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Clive Arthur[_2_] February 4th 21 04:17 PM

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On 04/02/2021 15:11, alan_m wrote:

The prize fund is currently 1% so £10K would generate £100 a year in
prizes.Â* On average, you could "win" a single prize approx every 3.5
months, which could be the million rather than £25. Prizes are tax free.


There's a fairly complicated analysis somewhere, but IIRC the upshot is
that a person with average luck and with the maximum £50k of bonds
should expect about 0.95% return in a year. With £10k that falls to 0.75%.

The main reason seems to be that the big prizes are very rare - eg the
£1M prizes are fifty billion to one.

Here it is...
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/sa...premium-bonds/

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Cheers
Clive

Tim Lamb[_2_] February 4th 21 04:26 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
In message , Chris Hogg
writes
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 14:57:38 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 04/02/2021 13:26, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:03:03 +0000, Andrew
wrote:

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.

+1

But if true, wouldn't that amount to fraud, given that they are
advertised as being completely random. It seems an unlikely way for NS&I
to act, given that it is testable.


+1

Often the drop off in winnings is down to an interest cut so fewer £25
prizes to give out. This has been happening for a decade or more in line
with other cash savings products. It's nothing to do with this mythical
new bonds give more prizes.

Late last year NS&I cut the interest rates on all their products
including premium bonds, albeit the premium bonds are still relatively
competitive with many other cash type investments. Most of the other
NS&I products went from 1%+ interest to near zero (0.05%).


It is only a perception. When my late wife and I both put money into
PBs, we seemed to get more wins in the first couple of years compared
to subsequently. But I never tabulated the numbers/dates, so the
evidence is shaky at best.


Look for £25.00 payments in your bank statements. They seem unable to
multiply and make a single bank transfer.


--
Tim Lamb

Jimmy Stewart ... February 4th 21 04:54 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 16:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Chris Hogg
writes
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 14:57:38 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 04/02/2021 13:26, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:03:03 +0000, Andrew
wrote:

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.

+1

But if true, wouldn't that amount to fraud, given that they are
advertised as being completely random. It seems an unlikely way for
NS&I
to act, given that it is testable.


+1

Often the drop off in winnings is down to an interest cut so fewer £25
prizes to give out. This has been happening for a decade or more in line
with other cash savings products. It's nothing to do with this mythical
new bonds give more prizes.

Late last year NS&I cut the interest rates on all their products
including premium bonds, albeit the premium bonds are still relatively
competitive with many other cash type investments. Most of the other
NS&I products went from 1%+ interest to near zero (0.05%).


It is only a perception. When my late wife and I both put money into
PBs, we seemed to get more wins in the first couple of years compared
to subsequently. But I never tabulated the numbers/dates, so the
evidence is shaky at best.


Look for £25.00 payments in your bank statements. They seem unable to
multiply and make a single bank transfer.


still waiting

Peter Johnson[_4_] February 4th 21 05:06 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:03:03 +0000, Andrew
wrote:


I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.


Not preferencial treatment. There's just more of them.

Mark February 4th 21 05:51 PM

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"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee


I bought £10k in October and got £50 on my first draw in November,
another £25 now in February.



The prize fund is currently 1% so £10K would generate £100 a year in
prizes. On average, you could "win" a single prize approx every 3.5
months, which could be the million rather than £25. Prizes are tax free.


Hmm ive had £500 worth of premium bonds since 1959 only ever won a few time
until 2019 when I won 6 times one after another

-



Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) February 4th 21 08:37 PM

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Yes and yet they always deny this and if it is so, why not admit it?
Brian

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"Andrew" wrote in message
...
On 04/02/2021 11:47, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:22:24 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST
DRAW........tee hee

It'll be £25. Anything more is rare. How much have you invested? Don't
expect another for a while.

15K YES £25 MUTTER MUTTER.... well better than 0.01 % with instant access
ISA with RBS


I had a £25 win this month. Nothing for the last 2 months.

I had 6 at £25 in May last year, not long after I had
sold 2/3rd of my holdings and bought new bonds.

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.




Andrew[_22_] February 4th 21 08:52 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 16:54, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 16:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Chris Hogg
writes
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 14:57:38 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 04/02/2021 13:26, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:03:03 +0000, Andrew
wrote:

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.

+1

But if true, wouldn't that amount to fraud, given that they are
advertised as being completely random. It seems an unlikely way for
NS&I
to act, given that it is testable.


+1

Often the drop off in winnings is down to an interest cut so fewer £25
prizes to give out. This has been happening for a decade or more in
line
with other cash savings products. It's nothing to do with this mythical
new bonds give more prizes.

Late last year NS&I cut the interest rates on all their products
including premium bonds, albeit the premium bonds are still relatively
competitive with many other cash type investments. Most of the other
NS&I products went from 1%+ interest to near zero (0.05%).

It is only a perception. When my late wife and I both put money into
PBs, we seemed to get more wins in the first couple of years compared
to subsequently. But I never tabulated the numbers/dates, so the
evidence is shaky at best.


Look for £25.00 payments in your bank statements. They seem unable to
multiply and make a single bank transfer.


still waiting


It takes 3 working days after you get the email for it to arrive.

Your statement shows an entry like 012345678901NS PBZ

alan_m February 4th 21 10:19 PM

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On 04/02/2021 20:52, Andrew wrote:


It takes 3 working days after you get the email for it to arrive.

Your statement shows an entry like 012345678901NS PBZ


It took me around a year to persuade my mother to get the prize to be
automatically transferred into her bank account. Before that she was
getting paper warrants? that required her to visit the bank to pay in.
As someone else has mentioned a bank transfer for 3 off £25 wins will be
3 separate transactions but it also result in 3 different mail drops if
that method has been chosen.

It is also possible to elect to reinvest winnings if you haven't got the
maximum premium bond allowance.


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Jimmy Stewart ... February 5th 21 07:31 AM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 20:52, Andrew wrote:
On 04/02/2021 16:54, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 16:26, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Chris Hogg
writes
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 14:57:38 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 04/02/2021 13:26, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 13:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:03:03 +0000, Andrew
wrote:

I have always suspected that new bonds of a substantial
amount get preferential treatmenst for 2 years and then
the prize stream dwindles noticibly. Other people have
noticed this too.

+1

But if true, wouldn't that amount to fraud, given that they are
advertised as being completely random. It seems an unlikely way
for NS&I
to act, given that it is testable.


+1

Often the drop off in winnings is down to an interest cut so fewer £25
prizes to give out. This has been happening for a decade or more in
line
with other cash savings products. It's nothing to do with this
mythical
new bonds give more prizes.

Late last year NS&I cut the interest rates on all their products
including premium bonds, albeit the premium bonds are still relatively
competitive with many other cash type investments. Most of the other
NS&I products went from 1%+ interest to near zero (0.05%).

It is only a perception. When my late wife and I both put money into
PBs, we seemed to get more wins in the first couple of years compared
to subsequently. But I never tabulated the numbers/dates, so the
evidence is shaky at best.

Look for £25.00 payments in your bank statements. They seem unable to
multiply and make a single bank transfer.


still waiting


It takes 3 working days after you get the email for it to arrive.

Your statement shows an entry like 012345678901NS PBZ

oh right thanks

Jimmy Stewart ... February 5th 21 07:32 AM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 04/02/2021 22:19, alan_m wrote:
On 04/02/2021 20:52, Andrew wrote:


It takes 3 working days after you get the email for it to arrive.

Your statement shows an entry like 012345678901NS PBZ


It took me around a year to persuade my mother to get the prize to be
automatically transferred into her bank account. Before that she was
getting paper warrants? that required her to visit the bank to pay in.
As someone else has mentioned a bank transfer for 3 off £25 wins will be
3 separate transactions but it also result in 3 different mail drops if
that method has been chosen.

It is also possible to elect to reinvest winnings if you haven't got the
maximum premium bond allowance.


see that

Jimmy Stewart ... February 5th 21 09:40 AM

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On 04/02/2021 17:51, Mark wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY FIRST
DRAW........tee hee

I bought бё10k in October and got бё50 on my first draw in November,
another бё25 now in February.



The prize fund is currently 1% so бё10K would generate бё100 a year in
prizes. On average, you could "win" a single prize approx every 3.5
months, which could be the million rather than бё25. Prizes are tax free.


Hmm ive had Ñ‘500 worth of premium bonds since 1959 only ever won a few time
until 2019 when I won 6 times one after another

-


I think it is great fun wondering if you will be lucky...more fun than
the lottery anyway......

Andrew[_22_] February 5th 21 12:46 PM

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On 05/02/2021 09:40, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:51, Mark wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 04/02/2021 13:04, newshound wrote:
On 04/02/2021 11:22, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
woo hoo just been notified that I have won something...THIS WAS MY
FIRST
DRAW........tee hee

I bought бё10k in October and got бё50 on my first draw in November,
another бё25 now in February.


The prize fund is currently 1% so бё10K would generate бё100 a year in
prizes.Â* On average, you could "win" a single prize approx every 3.5
months, which could be the million rather than бё25. Prizes are tax
free.


Hmm ive had Ñ‘500 worth of premium bonds since 1959 only ever won a few
time
until 2019 when I won 6 times one after another

-


I think it is great fun wondering if you will be lucky...more fun than
the lottery anyway......


I bought a £2 bond in the post office in Dec 1965 and in 2013 I won
£25 from that bond. Maybe NS occasionally throw some extra small
prizes at the really old bonds, because statistically I wouldn't
expect this.

According to the RPI tables I would have needed to win about £33 to get
my money back. This is what the treasury are gambling on, that people
will buy them and forget about them.

JohnP February 5th 21 01:51 PM

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-


I think it is great fun wondering if you will be lucky...more fun than
the lottery anyway......


And you can have your money back!

Tim Lamb[_2_] February 5th 21 02:02 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
In message , Andrew
writes

I bought a £2 bond in the post office in Dec 1965 and in 2013 I won
£25 from that bond. Maybe NS occasionally throw some extra small
prizes at the really old bonds, because statistically I wouldn't
expect this.


My Aunt gifted my sister and myself £5.00 each in bonds about then. I
converted mine to lots of air rifle pellets but my sister's ones won
£25.00 about 3 years after she died!

According to the RPI tables I would have needed to win about £33 to get
my money back. This is what the treasury are gambling on, that people
will buy them and forget about them.


--
Tim Lamb

Allan February 5th 21 02:04 PM

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On 04/02/2021 16:26, Tim Lamb wrote:

[snip]

Look for £25.00 payments in your bank statements. They seem unable to
multiply and make a single bank transfer.


Maybe just be grateful that you have the luck to be able to coomment
about multiplying :-)

I think it's because each prize winning has a reference number attached
to it, so they have to tie up the reference number with the payment.

Usually the reference number on your bank account is the payment
reference, not your holder number or bond reference.

Getting multiple payments may not be idea, but it's better than multiple
cheques (warrants) (and cheques are being phased out anyway).



Allan February 5th 21 02:09 PM

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On 04/02/2021 16:17, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 04/02/2021 15:11, alan_m wrote:

The prize fund is currently 1% so £10K would generate £100 a year in
prizes.Â* On average, you could "win" a single prize approx every 3.5
months, which could be the million rather than £25. Prizes are tax free.


There's a fairly complicated analysisÂ* somewhere, but IIRC the upshot is
that a person with average luck and with the maximum £50k of bonds
should expect about 0.95% return in a year.Â* With £10k that falls to 0.75%.

The main reason seems to be that the big prizes are very rare - eg the
£1M prizes are fifty billion to one.

Here it is...
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/sa...premium-bonds/



Also factor in (if you work on a % return) that the minimum prize they
pay out is £25, so if you work on the current prize rate of 1%
(https://www.nsandi.com/products/premium-bonds), you should aim to hold
£2500 of PB to give it a fair chance.

Probably why small bond holdings don't get much: 1% of £200PB is £2, so
you may have won, but it wouldn't pay (if less than £25).

Also, it's a prize rate, not an interest rate :-)


Tim Lamb[_2_] February 5th 21 03:24 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
In message , Allan
writes
On 04/02/2021 16:26, Tim Lamb wrote:

[snip]

Look for £25.00 payments in your bank statements. They seem unable to
multiply and make a single bank transfer.


Maybe just be grateful that you have the luck to be able to coomment
about multiplying :-)

:-) My wife and I have the maximum allowed invested. She got £25.00

I think it's because each prize winning has a reference number attached
to it, so they have to tie up the reference number with the payment.

OK

Usually the reference number on your bank account is the payment
reference, not your holder number or bond reference.

Indeed

Getting multiple payments may not be idea, but it's better than
multiple cheques (warrants) (and cheques are being phased out anyway).

Took me a while to work out who owed me £25 when I first saw them.



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Tim Lamb

Peter Johnson[_4_] February 5th 21 04:18 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 12:46:46 +0000, Andrew
wrote:



I bought a £2 bond in the post office in Dec 1965 and in 2013 I won
£25 from that bond. Maybe NS occasionally throw some extra small
prizes at the really old bonds, because statistically I wouldn't
expect this.

It's random. They say, and don't ask for a cite, that occasionally old
bonds do win big prizes.

Two neighbours gave me £1 and told me to buy a premium bond in 1970,
when I was 21. I bought a few more, about £80, through a deduction
from pay scheme, and won £25 a long time ago.
With the interest rates being so low I cashed them in last year and
started putting £100, now £300, a month into PBs. No wins yet but it's
nice to dream, even if the odds are against me.

Jimmy Stewart ... February 5th 21 04:30 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 05/02/2021 16:18, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 12:46:46 +0000, Andrew
wrote:



I bought a £2 bond in the post office in Dec 1965 and in 2013 I won
£25 from that bond. Maybe NS occasionally throw some extra small
prizes at the really old bonds, because statistically I wouldn't
expect this.

It's random. They say, and don't ask for a cite, that occasionally old
bonds do win big prizes.

Two neighbours gave me £1 and told me to buy a premium bond in 1970,
when I was 21. I bought a few more, about £80, through a deduction
from pay scheme, and won £25 a long time ago.
With the interest rates being so low I cashed them in last year and
started putting £100, now £300, a month into PBs. No wins yet but it's
nice to dream, even if the odds are against me.

I think you need a nice big block of them to stand a chance....

Jimmy Stewart ... February 5th 21 04:30 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 05/02/2021 13:51, JohnP wrote:
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I think it is great fun wondering if you will be lucky...more fun than
the lottery anyway......


And you can have your money back!

best bit

Andrew[_22_] February 6th 21 12:35 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
On 05/02/2021 14:02, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Andrew
writes

I bought a £2 bond in the post office in Dec 1965 and in 2013 I won
£25 from that bond. Maybe NS occasionally throw some extra small
prizes at the really old bonds, because statistically I wouldn't
expect this.


My Aunt gifted my sister and myself £5.00 each in bonds about then. I
converted mine to lots of air rifle pellets but my sister's ones won
£25.00 about 3 years after she died!


Which presumably was cancelled, because I didn't think PB prizes
post-death could be inherited. The warrant would have been made
payable to her. What did the bank do with it ?.


Tim Lamb[_2_] February 6th 21 02:43 PM

OT my new premium bonds
 
In message , Andrew
writes
On 05/02/2021 14:02, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Andrew
writes

I bought a £2 bond in the post office in Dec 1965 and in 2013 I won
£25 from that bond. Maybe NS occasionally throw some extra small
prizes at the really old bonds, because statistically I wouldn't
expect this.

My Aunt gifted my sister and myself £5.00 each in bonds about then.
I converted mine to lots of air rifle pellets but my sister's ones
won £25.00 about 3 years after she died!


Which presumably was cancelled, because I didn't think PB prizes
post-death could be inherited. The warrant would have been made
payable to her. What did the bank do with it ?.


I sent it to the solicitor who handled her estate. I believe my
daughters got £15.00 each.

Would NS get an automatic notification of death? Clearly the solicitor
had not bothered to check.


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Tim Lamb


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