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Terminating phone cable
decorating a spare bedroom upstairs I found the old telephone extension
socket behind the bed and cheerfully pulled it off the wall snipping the cable where it came through the window frame saying 'no need for that anymore!'. since then several people have said they have had difficulty ringing us up (although there is a dialling tone and broadband still). Is this coincidence? Is there a proper way to terminate an unwanted telephone cable, and what is it? TW |
Terminating phone cable
On Monday, 5 October 2020 11:21:54 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
decorating a spare bedroom upstairs I found the old telephone extension socket behind the bed and cheerfully pulled it off the wall snipping the cable where it came through the window frame saying 'no need for that anymore!'. since then several people have said they have had difficulty ringing us up (although there is a dialling tone and broadband still). Is this coincidence? Is there a proper way to terminate an unwanted telephone cable, and what is it? If you have caused an intermittent short that could cause callers to receive the engaged tone, or if you have shorted the bell circuit your phones won't ring on incoming calls. best would be to disconnect the unwanted cable at the 'supply' end. Or use a small terminal box. Owain |
Terminating phone cable
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TimW wrote: decorating a spare bedroom upstairs I found the old telephone extension socket behind the bed and cheerfully pulled it off the wall snipping the cable where it came through the window frame saying 'no need for that anymore!'. since then several people have said they have had difficulty ringing us up (although there is a dialling tone and broadband still). Is this coincidence? Is there a proper way to terminate an unwanted telephone cable, and what is it? make sure none of the wires is touchng another one. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
Terminating phone cable
On 05/10/2020 11:43, charles wrote:
In article , TimW wrote: decorating a spare bedroom upstairs I found the old telephone extension socket behind the bed and cheerfully pulled it off the wall snipping the cable where it came through the window frame saying 'no need for that anymore!'. since then several people have said they have had difficulty ringing us up (although there is a dialling tone and broadband still). Is this coincidence? Is there a proper way to terminate an unwanted telephone cable, and what is it? make sure none of the wires is touchng another one. Which side of the window frame was the wire cut? Is the cut end of the cable now getting wet when it rains? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Terminating phone cable
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:21:49 +0100, TimW wrote:
decorating a spare bedroom upstairs I found the old telephone extension socket behind the bed and cheerfully pulled it off the wall snipping the cable where it came through the window frame saying 'no need for that anymore!'. since then several people have said they have had difficulty ringing us up (although there is a dialling tone and broadband still). Is this coincidence? I doubt it... What do callers get? Ringing tone but no answer, brief ringing tone that cuts to silence, immediate engaged tone? Is there a proper way to terminate an unwanted telephone cable, and what is it? In the short term ensure that none of the wires are shorted to any other. Longer term fully remove the now redundant extension wiring right back to where it splits from other wiring. The unterminated stub of cable may knock a Mbps off your broadband speed. Wether that is a problem depends on what speed you get, 50+ Mbps probably not an issue, down at 5 Mbps every kbps counts... You could just follow the cable and discconect from the main wiring but that isn't "neat and tidy" in my book. B-) -- Cheers Dave. |
Terminating phone cable
On 05/10/2020 11:55, alan_m wrote:
On 05/10/2020 11:43, charles wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* TimW wrote: decorating a spare bedroom upstairs I found the old telephone extension socket behind the bed and cheerfully pulled it off the wall snipping the cable where it came through the window frame saying 'no need for that anymore!'. since then several people have said they have had difficulty ringing us up (although there is a dialling tone and broadband still). Is this coincidence? Is there a proper way to terminate an unwanted telephone cable, and what is it? make sure none of the wires is touchng another one. Which side of the window frame was the wire cut? Is the cut end of the cable now getting wet when it rains? It was cut on the indoors side, but given a dollop of emulsion after that. TW |
Terminating phone cable
TimW wrote:
decorating a spare bedroom upstairs I found the old telephone extension socket behind the bed and cheerfully pulled it off the wall snipping the cable where it came through the window frame saying 'no need for that anymore!'. since then several people have said they have had difficulty ringing us up (although there is a dialling tone and broadband still). Is this coincidence? Is there a proper way to terminate an unwanted telephone cable, and what is it? I don't suppose you've cut off the socket with the ring capacitor? They're supposed to be in the master socket, but maybe your install is peculiar? Do you have an NTE5 master socket, or something older? Theo |
Terminating phone cable
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Terminating phone cable
On Monday, 5 October 2020 16:32:25 UTC+1, Scott wrote:
Could you be prosecuted and/or face a claim for compensation for damage to the public telephone network? Unlikely to actually damage the network, but Openreach would charge a chargeable repair to your phone/ISP who would then bill you. Owain |
Terminating phone cable
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Terminating phone cable
On Mon, 05 Oct 2020 16:50:23 +0100, Scott wrote:
Could you be prosecuted and/or face a claim for compensation for damage to the public telephone network? Unlikely to actually damage the network, but Openreach would charge a chargeable repair to your phone/ISP who would then bill you. Okay, even if it doesn't cause damage could a short circuit disrupt other lines or necessitate diagnostic work at the exchange? No on the assumption that it is only a line shorted to itself. Multiple lines shorted to each other might up set things but unlikely to cause damage. Both would be flagged, eventually, by the automatic line testing that goes on. Multiple line faults in the same cable might prod Openreach into fixing it before any faults have been reported. -- Cheers Dave. |
Terminating phone cable
On 05/10/2020 16:50, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:36:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Monday, 5 October 2020 16:32:25 UTC+1, Scott wrote: Could you be prosecuted and/or face a claim for compensation for damage to the public telephone network? Unlikely to actually damage the network, but Openreach would charge a chargeable repair to your phone/ISP who would then bill you. Okay, even if it doesn't cause damage could a short circuit disrupt other lines or necessitate diagnostic work at the exchange? It won't disrupt other lines, since POTS is circuit switched - you have a dedicated line to the cabinet line card. There are typically current limiting resistors in the -48 to 0V battery circuit to protect the supply from shorted lines (which will be a common line fault). -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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