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rick October 1st 20 12:23 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima
Local repair guys (who are trustworthy & honest) advised on this model
bearing is on inner drum and there is a sealed outer nylon drum -
bearing can't be replaced. (great design idea)
Needs a new drum tub, £140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at £90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.

Jim White October 1st 20 01:49 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
In article ,
says...

Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima
Local repair guys (who are trustworthy & honest) advised on this model
bearing is on inner drum and there is a sealed outer nylon drum -
bearing can't be replaced. (great design idea)
Needs a new drum tub, 140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at 90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.


Ours failed at around 2 years.
A search revealed a couple of utube vids of the repair.
The bearings (better spec.)can be found for around a tenner.
The repair is effected by carefully splitting the drum apart and glueing
back together with silicone + self tappers.
The video strip down and reassembly may be helpful for you.
At 90, I think it's a lot less grief, but the replacement will fail the
same way.
I will never buy another hotpoint (or rebadged clone).

Cheers, Jim

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] October 1st 20 01:57 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On 01/10/2020 13:49, Jim White wrote:
In article ,
says...

Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima
Local repair guys (who are trustworthy & honest) advised on this model
bearing is on inner drum and there is a sealed outer nylon drum -
bearing can't be replaced. (great design idea)
Needs a new drum tub, £140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at £90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.


Ours failed at around 2 years.
A search revealed a couple of utube vids of the repair.
The bearings (better spec.)can be found for around a tenner.
The repair is effected by carefully splitting the drum apart and glueing
back together with silicone + self tappers.
The video strip down and reassembly may be helpful for you.
At £90, I think it's a lot less grief, but the replacement will fail the
same way.
I will never buy another hotpoint (or rebadged clone).

Cheers, Jim

I had a hotpoint that literally fell to pieces casewise - still worked -
after 25 years.

Its replacement lasted 5...


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Bob Eager[_7_] October 1st 20 02:24 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:23:48 +0100, rick wrote:

Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima Local repair guys (who are trustworthy &
honest) advised on this model bearing is on inner drum and there is a
sealed outer nylon drum - bearing can't be replaced. (great design
idea)
Needs a new drum tub, £140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at £90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.


This happened to us. It was 13 months old.

I was also quoted about £140. I found I could get a Hotpoint fixed price
repair for just under £100.

I got that, to save a lot of hassle. The guy was very quick - said he'd
done so many that he was an expert!



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rick October 1st 20 02:37 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On 01/10/2020 13:49, Jim White wrote:

I will never buy another hotpoint (or rebadged clone).

Cheers, Jim



I might never buy another - but have one now :-(

We had Bendix before - which was a WHICH best buy for reliability -
failed after 5 years (bearings) replaced them myself, then programmer
failed - so scrapped it.

Difficult to find what m/c to buy



rick October 1st 20 02:59 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On 01/10/2020 14:24, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:23:48 +0100, rick wrote:

Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima Local repair guys (who are trustworthy &
honest) advised on this model bearing is on inner drum and there is a
sealed outer nylon drum - bearing can't be replaced. (great design
idea)
Needs a new drum tub, £140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at £90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.


This happened to us. It was 13 months old.

I was also quoted about £140. I found I could get a Hotpoint fixed price
repair for just under £100.

I got that, to save a lot of hassle. The guy was very quick - said he'd
done so many that he was an expert!



The local guys won't offer bearing only change ... probably as you have
to split the drum.
I have ordered the drum ... is this a fairly straight forward job to do

Bob Eager[_7_] October 1st 20 03:55 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:59:04 +0100, rick wrote:

This happened to us. It was 13 months old.

I was also quoted about £140. I found I could get a Hotpoint fixed
price repair for just under £100.

I got that, to save a lot of hassle. The guy was very quick - said he'd
done so many that he was an expert!



The local guys won't offer bearing only change ... probably as you have
to split the drum.


The under £100 was a complete drunm replacement. Basically anything on
the machine for the same price!



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newshound October 1st 20 04:19 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On 01/10/2020 14:37, rick wrote:
On 01/10/2020 13:49, Jim White wrote:

I will never buy another hotpoint (or rebadged clone).

Cheers,* Jim



I might never buy another - but have one now** :-(

We had Bendix before - which was a WHICH best buy for reliability -
failed after 5 years (bearings)* replaced them myself, then programmer
failed - so scrapped it.

Difficult to find what m/c to buy


Maybe we have been lucky, but have had several Bosch dishwashers and
washing machines over the past 30 years with very few problems.


Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) October 2nd 20 10:31 AM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
How old is it? Maybe you have a warranty claim, they do not seem to be doing
very well of late with dangerous faults and the like.
Brian

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"rick" wrote in message
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Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima
Local repair guys (who are trustworthy & honest) advised on this model
bearing is on inner drum and there is a sealed outer nylon drum - bearing
can't be replaced. (great design idea)
Needs a new drum tub, 140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at 90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.




Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) October 2nd 20 10:35 AM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
Yes but I bet that was when Hotpoint was Hotpoint, and not just another name
purchased off a bankrupsy pile by Whirlpool or one of the other major
suspects, who mostly don't give a **** till something catches fire.
Brian

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 01/10/2020 13:49, Jim White wrote:
In article ,
says...

Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima
Local repair guys (who are trustworthy & honest) advised on this model
bearing is on inner drum and there is a sealed outer nylon drum -
bearing can't be replaced. (great design idea)
Needs a new drum tub, 140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at 90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.


Ours failed at around 2 years.
A search revealed a couple of utube vids of the repair.
The bearings (better spec.)can be found for around a tenner.
The repair is effected by carefully splitting the drum apart and glueing
back together with silicone + self tappers.
The video strip down and reassembly may be helpful for you.
At 90, I think it's a lot less grief, but the replacement will fail the
same way.
I will never buy another hotpoint (or rebadged clone).

Cheers, Jim

I had a hotpoint that literally fell to pieces casewise - still worked -
after 25 years.

Its replacement lasted 5...


--
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong."

Thomas Sowell




Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) October 2nd 20 10:36 AM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
Panasonic? Meale?
Brian

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On 01/10/2020 13:49, Jim White wrote:

I will never buy another hotpoint (or rebadged clone).

Cheers, Jim



I might never buy another - but have one now :-(

We had Bendix before - which was a WHICH best buy for reliability - failed
after 5 years (bearings) replaced them myself, then programmer failed -
so scrapped it.

Difficult to find what m/c to buy





Radio Man October 2nd 20 11:01 AM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
rick wrote:
Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima
Local repair guys (who are trustworthy & honest) advised on this model
bearing is on inner drum and there is a sealed outer nylon drum -
bearing can't be replaced. (great design idea)
Needs a new drum tub, £140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at £90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.


Shop around for a new machine with a 5 year warranty and treat as
disposable they dont last these days.


Bob Eager[_7_] October 2nd 20 11:01 AM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 10:35:26 +0100, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:

Yes but I bet that was when Hotpoint was Hotpoint, and not just another
name purchased off a bankrupsy pile by Whirlpool or one of the other
major suspects, who mostly don't give a **** till something catches
fire.


Exactly. We had a Hoptpoint that lasted nearlyu 20 years.

The replacement knackered its bearings in just over a year (P+L warranty
of 1 year). Parts warranty (3 years I think) was useless given the labour
costs.

Fixed price repair for £98.

It started to fail again a year later. WE gave it away (with warnings)
and bought a Bosch.



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T i m October 2nd 20 12:36 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 12:23:48 +0100, rick
wrote:

Have a reasonably new Washing Machine .... and bearing is on its way out
on the drum.
Groaning badly if you rotate by hand and very noisy on spin ......(no
shaking or vibration of machine though)
Its a Hotpoint WMUD962 Ultima
Local repair guys (who are trustworthy & honest) advised on this model
bearing is on inner drum and there is a sealed outer nylon drum -
bearing can't be replaced. (great design idea)
Needs a new drum tub, 140 from Hotpoint.

Found new one at 90 ..... comes complete with heater.

Anybody changed one of theses drums .... any tips/hints.


Yes, several. Pretty easy if like for like but ...

We picked up a 13 month old Zanussi from Freecycle that had been
written off (sealed tub like yours) because of a failed bearing,
otherwise it looked like new.

We got it home and stripped it down and noticed the tub was designed
to be screwed together by various lugs around the central seam. So I
drilled the lugs out to M6 and then carefully cut round the seam with
a saber saw.

After replacing the bearings I made a seal from some round section
neoprene (with a spliced joint at the top) and after placing stainless
steel spacer washers [1] at each bolt hole, applied a bead of CT1
sealant around both sides of the join (and under the neoprene seal)
and then carefully placed the open end onto the main tub, put the
bolts though and nipped up the Nylok nuts.

Allowed to cure overnight, passed a leak test the next day and carried
on working for a further ~8 years.

I could have bought a replacement splittable tub but apparently it
would have need a different drum, dampers and some other bits (costing
more than a new one).

Cheers, T i m

[1] We needed to use the spacer washers to replace the plastic removed
by the saber saw or the drum would rub on the inside of the tub mouth.

rick October 12th 20 05:30 PM

Washing M/c Drum replacement
 
On 01/10/2020 14:59, rick wrote:
On 01/10/2020 14:24, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:23:48 +0100, rick wrote:



The local guys won't offer bearing only change ... probably as you have
to split the drum.
I have ordered the drum* ... is this a fairly straight forward job to do


Hotpoint WMUD762 Drum was 50% of cost that dealer wanted to charge
(Hotpoint retail price) much cheaper and free postage via eBay

Recommend APPLIANCEMERRYGOROUND good service

Was 2.5 Hrs of fun ....... I found a video on-line of how to change a
drum..... gave some clues. Biggest issue was the videos all showed
front being removed and drum out that way.
Front is welded on for this model .... Had to come out through the top
...... heavy with bottom weight attached - but could not remove that
until drum was out.

Refitting all was quick enough.

Hardest part was trying to figure out how to get door latch off .... all
videos show it is fitted by 2 screws - no screws on this version - took
some fun to remove.


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