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Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
Hi Folks
Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. The bloke who built the steps put two pieces of plastic drainpipe in the concrete to allow the handrail to be installed later. Questions Will a 3:1 sharp sand/cement mix be ok to fill in around the steel uprights? If I mix this quite runny (but not ridiculously so) to flow into the spaces around the uprights, will I get any shrinkage when it goes off? I'm going to leave the plastic drainpipe where it is. I had thought about getting it out with a hot air gun, but would prefer not to if no need. Am I wrong? All suggestions and answers welcomed! Ta David |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
On Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:07:19 UTC+1, David wrote:
Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. I think molten lead was used to fix railings into stone, traditionally. Not sure if it's strong enough on its own for a handrail. Owain |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 18:39:25 UTC+1, wrote:
On Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:07:19 UTC+1, David wrote: Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. I think molten lead was used to fix railings into stone, traditionally. Not sure if it's strong enough on its own for a handrail. Owain Think I might have a jolly time explaining the smelter and the associated clothing to the missus... |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
On Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:45:18 UTC+1, David wrote:
Think I might have a jolly time explaining the smelter and the associated clothing to the missus... Were you expecting her to do the job? Owain |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 18:07:19 UTC+1, David wrote:
Hi Folks Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. The bloke who built the steps put two pieces of plastic drainpipe in the concrete to allow the handrail to be installed later. Questions Will a 3:1 sharp sand/cement mix be ok to fill in around the steel uprights? If I mix this quite runny (but not ridiculously so) to flow into the spaces around the uprights, will I get any shrinkage when it goes off? I'm going to leave the plastic drainpipe where it is. I had thought about getting it out with a hot air gun, but would prefer not to if no need. Am I wrong? All suggestions and answers welcomed! Ta David If you're on the internet you're wrong, gotta accept that. Only issue with what you propose is the steel rusting. Coat it well or galv it. Wet mixes don't shrink, but the wetter the weaker. Normally it's no problem to tamp down a traditional mortar mix. NT |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
Assuming the concrete around the pip is solid then that mix you get for
fence posts works well for this. A chap down the road did it on the steps up from his gat to the garden over 10 years back now. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:07:19 UTC+1, David wrote: Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. I think molten lead was used to fix railings into stone, traditionally. Not sure if it's strong enough on its own for a handrail. Owain |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
Just don't use the double glazers friend, Expanding yellow foam... grin.
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "David" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 18:39:25 UTC+1, wrote: On Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:07:19 UTC+1, David wrote: Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. I think molten lead was used to fix railings into stone, traditionally. Not sure if it's strong enough on its own for a handrail. Owain Think I might have a jolly time explaining the smelter and the associated clothing to the missus... |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
He did not say what was on the railing, but yes good coat of that grey zinc
stuff is good. I used it on an aerial mast support post. To get it down I had to cut it off. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Nick Cat" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 18:07:19 UTC+1, David wrote: Hi Folks Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. The bloke who built the steps put two pieces of plastic drainpipe in the concrete to allow the handrail to be installed later. Questions Will a 3:1 sharp sand/cement mix be ok to fill in around the steel uprights? If I mix this quite runny (but not ridiculously so) to flow into the spaces around the uprights, will I get any shrinkage when it goes off? I'm going to leave the plastic drainpipe where it is. I had thought about getting it out with a hot air gun, but would prefer not to if no need. Am I wrong? All suggestions and answers welcomed! Ta David If you're on the internet you're wrong, gotta accept that. Only issue with what you propose is the steel rusting. Coat it well or galv it. Wet mixes don't shrink, but the wetter the weaker. Normally it's no problem to tamp down a traditional mortar mix. NT |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
David Wrote in message:
Hi Folks Had some garden steps built a couple of years ago and we now have a steel handrail to install. The bloke who built the steps put two pieces of plastic drainpipe in the concrete to allow the handrail to be installed later. Questions Will a 3:1 sharp sand/cement mix be ok to fill in around the steel uprights? If I mix this quite runny (but not ridiculously so) to flow into the spaces around the uprights, will I get any shrinkage when it goes off? I'm going to leave the plastic drainpipe where it is. I had thought about getting it out with a hot air gun, but would prefer not to if no need. Am I wrong? All suggestions and answers welcomed! Ta David Best paint it well if it's raw steel... Wet mixes ok but need extra cement - equal amounts to water. what's to stop it draining out the bottom of the plastic pipes? Maybe stuff some plastic baggage down there in advance? -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
Thanks guys!
I'll give the expanding foam a miss, but may use clear silicone instead of the sand cement mix to give the handrail an exciting wibbly unfirmness. Oh OK, I'll stick to the sand and cement... |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
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Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
On 16/08/2020 12:07, David wrote:
Thanks guys! I'll give the expanding foam a miss, but may use clear silicone instead of the sand cement mix to give the handrail an exciting wibbly unfirmness. Oh OK, I'll stick to the sand and cement... Just wondering whether it's better to put the sand and cement in dry, then add water? |
Mix for installing handrail in garden steps socket
GB Wrote in message:
On 16/08/2020 12:07, David wrote: Thanks guys! I'll give the expanding foam a miss, but may use clear silicone instead of the sand cement mix to give the handrail an exciting wibbly unfirmness. Oh OK, I'll stick to the sand and cement... Just wondering whether it's better to put the sand and cement in dry, then add water? Nah , plastic bags rammed down pipes, metal in, sloppy but strong mix, funnel made out of 2litre pop bottle, trowel it in, self compacting, tamp with a stick if any doubt... -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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