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This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is
felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW |
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This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the soffit boards are totally rotted. what would be good? Onduline? I fitted coroline on mine the first time the felt 'went' the boards were in good condition, it's lasting very well, but not sure I'd go to the trouble if the roof was rotten. |
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On 04/08/2020 11:17, Andy Burns wrote:
TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m),Â* the soffit boards are totally rotted. what would be good? Onduline? I fitted coroline on mine the first time the felt 'went' the boards were in good condition, it's lasting very well, but not sure I'd go to the trouble if the roof was rotten. Depends what wood is rotten. As I remember it, replacing a rotten roof panel was easier than the felt. |
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On Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:10:13 +0100, TimW wrote:
This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Similar to you, I have re-felted mine several times, but the water eventually got in and caused the chipboard roof to bow inwards, eventually to such an extent, I had to take the roof off completely. I bought a 'Tarpaulin' and covered the frame with it. I have it anchored with large screw-in hooks fixed through the corner eyelets..........it has held fast for 3 years so far and is water tight. The overhang edges flap a bit in the wind, but no problem. I bought 2off 8' x 4' heavy gauge chicken wire fence sheets to use for support, but didn't need to use them. |
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 11:10:13 +0100, TimW wrote:
This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. Soffits on a shed, there's posh! B-) Or do you mean the roof boards? I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? Refelted our shed roof at least twice but it never lasts more than about 5 years before it starts to fail. Bog standard shed roofing felt, clout nail it down stuff. Last time it needed doing I put coroline(*) on it that was Sep '16 and it's still water tight and looks almost new. The hard bit was working out the cutting list to minimise wastage as the ridge to gutter length was a couple of feet less than a sheet. So every third lenght you had enough "wastage" to do another length. I think the shed is 6x8 a 8x10 might not be quite so bad. (*) The name of the smaller corrogation corrogated bitumen sheet. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 4 Aug 2020 at 11:10:13 BST, "TimW" wrote:
This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? FWIW, I've used a sheet of this to cover tools/bikes in the garden (supposed to be part of a project that never happened), and it's still in one piece and waterproof after 6 or 7 years: https://www.roofingmegastore.co.uk/c...eet-green.html -- Cheers, Rob |
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On Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:43:27 UTC+1, RJH wrote:
On 4 Aug 2020 at 11:10:13 BST, "TimW" wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? FWIW, I've used a sheet of this to cover tools/bikes in the garden (supposed to be part of a project that never happened), and it's still in one piece and waterproof after 6 or 7 years: https://www.roofingmegastore.co.uk/c...eet-green.html Yes, I have used this stuff. Ten years and still good. |
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On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote:
This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. |
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Farmer Giles Wrote in message:
On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 04/08/2020 12:32, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 11:10:13 +0100, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. Soffits on a shed, there's posh! B-) Or do you mean the roof boards? I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? Refelted our shed roof at least twice but it never lasts more than about 5 years before it starts to fail. Bog standard shed roofing felt, clout nail it down stuff. That's because bog standard shed felt is crap! I have never been a fan of nailing through the top coat of felt either. (If nailing, then nail a nail prep layer on - random pattern. Then bond undercoat to it, and cap sheet over). I redid the one here when we moved in 12+ years ago with a couple of layers of torch-on felt (2mm undercoat, and 4mm mineral finish cap sheet), and its still perfect (and I would expect it to last at least as long again!) Last time it needed doing I put coroline(*) on it that was Sep '16 and it's still water tight and looks almost new. The hard bit was working out the cutting list to minimise wastage as the ridge to gutter length was a couple of feet less than a sheet. So every third lenght you had enough "wastage" to do another length. I think the shed is 6x8 a 8x10 might not be quite so bad. (*) The name of the smaller corrogation corrogated bitumen sheet. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote:
Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. |
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Farmer Giles Wrote in message:
On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 04/08/2020 11:42, Pancho wrote:
On 04/08/2020 11:17, Andy Burns wrote: TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m),Â* the soffit boards are totally rotted. what would be good? Onduline? I fitted coroline on mine the first time the felt 'went' the boards were in good condition, it's lasting very well, but not sure I'd go to the trouble if the roof was rotten. Depends what wood is rotten. As I remember it, replacing a rotten roof panel was easier than the felt. The only decayed wood afaict is the boards that are totally exposed on the gable end. I thought it was called a soffit but maybe I am wrong. A board which is nailed on top of the felt along the edge, and another vertical one. TW |
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On 04/08/2020 12:32, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Soffits on a shed, there's posh! B-) Or do you mean the roof boards? Probably, nailed on top of the felt and over the edge, at the gable ends. TW |
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He said wobbly does this mean the bottom corners of the uprights are
somewhat rotted. I have a shed like this and I'm debating its future myself. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the soffit boards are totally rotted. what would be good? Onduline? I fitted coroline on mine the first time the felt 'went' the boards were in good condition, it's lasting very well, but not sure I'd go to the trouble if the roof was rotten. |
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On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote:
Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey |
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Farmer Giles Wrote in message:
On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey The link rather illustrates another potential point - minimum length 6ft? Sounds bit long for a typical pitch roof shed? So then we potentially still have the faff of cutting it... -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 04/08/2020 16:41, Jimk wrote:
Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey The link rather illustrates another potential point - minimum length 6ft? Sounds bit long for a typical pitch roof shed? So then we potentially still have the faff of cutting it... It does say 'can be cut to length on request'. My local supplier will cut them down to less than 1 metre. |
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On 04/08/2020 17:29, Farmer Giles wrote:
On 04/08/2020 16:41, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey The link rather illustrates another potential point - minimum Â* length 6ft? Sounds bit long for a typical pitch roof shed? So Â* then we potentially still have the faff of cutting Â* it... It does say 'can be cut to length on request'. My local supplier will cut them down to less than 1 metre. How do you stop the cut ends going rusty though ? |
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On 04/08/2020 17:43, Andrew wrote:
On 04/08/2020 17:29, Farmer Giles wrote: On 04/08/2020 16:41, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey The link rather illustrates another potential point - minimum Â* length 6ft? Sounds bit long for a typical pitch roof shed? So Â* then we potentially still have the faff of cutting Â* it... It does say 'can be cut to length on request'. My local supplier will cut them down to less than 1 metre. How do you stop the cut ends going rusty though ? I've never had any problems with that. Anyway, they're all cut from a flat continuous steel roll which is fed into the profile machine, then cut to whatever length is required. So all the ends are cut. |
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On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote:
This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW IIRC the cheapest long-lived thing per square foot are the thin steel plastic coated box profile sheets, but you might have to bodge the ridge. If the boards are not too bad you could probably fit the sheets using sticks like **** type cartridge adhesive, and save messing around with roofing nails or screws. I have to replace a corruline/onduline pitched roof soon, I shall probably board it first but have not decided whether to use metal or corruline. I have come to the conclusion that it is *only* worth using the corrugated bitumen boards with full boarding underneath. Mine lasted 20 years but a stables that I rent has only lasted 10, owing to sagging and splitting between rafters and purlins. |
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newshound wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that it is *only* worth using the corrugated bitumen boards with full boarding underneath. my shed roof is full 18mm T&G boarded, I added battens for the coroline and used their ridge pieces, didn't get on quite so well with their end pieces, but it looks in good shape ~8 years on, no sagging. It's had just one very light pressure-washing. |
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Farmer Giles Wrote in message:
On 04/08/2020 17:43, Andrew wrote: On 04/08/2020 17:29, Farmer Giles wrote: On 04/08/2020 16:41, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey The link rather illustrates another potential point - minimum length 6ft? Sounds bit long for a typical pitch roof shed? So then we potentially still have the faff of cutting it... It does say 'can be cut to length on request'. My local supplier will cut them down to less than 1 metre. How do you stop the cut ends going rusty though ? I've never had any problems with that. Anyway, they're all cut from a flat continuous steel roll which is fed into the profile machine, then cut to whatever length is required. So all the ends are cut. How do they gain the colours then? -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 04/08/2020 16:19, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
He said wobbly does this mean the bottom corners of the uprights are somewhat rotted. I have a shed like this and I'm debating its future myself. Brian Not in my case. I think the wobbliness is a slightly flimsy construction combined with some subsidence of the blocks it's sitting on, causing a little distortion of the whole thing. But hey, it's only a potting shed. TW |
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On 04/08/2020 20:50, Jimk wrote:
Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 17:43, Andrew wrote: On 04/08/2020 17:29, Farmer Giles wrote: On 04/08/2020 16:41, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey The link rather illustrates another potential point - minimum length 6ft? Sounds bit long for a typical pitch roof shed? So then we potentially still have the faff of cutting it... It does say 'can be cut to length on request'. My local supplier will cut them down to less than 1 metre. How do you stop the cut ends going rusty though ? I've never had any problems with that. Anyway, they're all cut from a flat continuous steel roll which is fed into the profile machine, then cut to whatever length is required. So all the ends are cut. How do they gain the colours then? That's how the steel rolls come - when I go to my supplier I see the rolls lying around in the various colours. |
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 20:21:12 +0100, newshound wrote:
On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW IIRC the cheapest long-lived thing per square foot are the thin steel plastic coated box profile sheets, but you might have to bodge the ridge. If the boards are not too bad you could probably fit the sheets using sticks like **** type cartridge adhesive, and save messing around with roofing nails or screws. I have to replace a corruline/onduline pitched roof soon, I shall probably board it first but have not decided whether to use metal or corruline. I have come to the conclusion that it is *only* worth using the corrugated bitumen boards with full boarding underneath. Mine lasted 20 years but a stables that I rent has only lasted 10, owing to sagging and splitting between rafters and purlins. Chap next door had his shed roof done with a corrugated sheet that looks remarkably like the asbestos cement that it replaced. The roofer - he lives about 150m up the road - reckoned that it'll last about 50 years; the old roof was about 70 yo but 10 past it's 'best before' date. I did mine with Onduline about 3 years ago; the lean-to next to it was done with Onduline about 10 years ago - still OK but showing its age. The manufacturer claims 15 years if 'maintained' which, so far as I can see, is not leaving debris, especially moss, on it for too long. Next time I'll use the corrugated cement board or whatever it is, although 15 years might see me out (or 15 weeks the way things are going atm!). The pitch on these roofs is about 7 deg. so I used 2m sheets on a 3m roof, giving nearly 2m overlap (the rest is on the eaves). Harder material would allow more overhang and that would be better at keeping rain off the timberwork. The roofs are fully decked under the Onduline so local pooling isn't an issue. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On 04/08/2020 11:10:13, TimW wrote:
This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? On a very similar wooden structure I used 2 8x4 sheets of buffalo board. No felt, apart from a strip on the apex. Slightly more expensive that OSB and felt but much easier and will last longer. |
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On 04/08/2020 20:50, Jimk wrote:
Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 17:43, Andrew wrote: On 04/08/2020 17:29, Farmer Giles wrote: On 04/08/2020 16:41, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 14:42, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 13:35, Jimk wrote: Farmer Giles Wrote in message: On 04/08/2020 11:10, TimW wrote: This is an ordinary timber garden shed 8' x 10' (2.4m x 3m), the roof is felt on treated sw boards on 3x2 purlins, a central ridge and a shallow pitch of maybe 15deg. Very standard cheap wooden shed. Over 20 yrs I have refelted and half re felted and it's leaking again, and the soffit boards are totally rotted. The rest of the shed is of no particular quality, and a a bit wobbly. I was thinking of covering the roof with something better, hoping to extend its life and usefulness - what would be good? Onduline? galvanised steel? plywood and a rubber type sheet? some kind of new material? TW Box profile sheets. Cheapish and durable. Awkward to transport cut & handle Get them cut to size and delivered, that's what I have always done - and I've never found them difficult or awkward to handle. I was thinking of the standard 6m lengths... Well, yes, in that case cutting them is a nightmare. Suppliers will generally cut them to size. https://tinyurl.com/yxm8v4ey The link rather illustrates another potential point - minimum length 6ft? Sounds bit long for a typical pitch roof shed? So then we potentially still have the faff of cutting it... It does say 'can be cut to length on request'. My local supplier will cut them down to less than 1 metre. How do you stop the cut ends going rusty though ? I've never had any problems with that. Anyway, they're all cut from a flat continuous steel roll which is fed into the profile machine, then cut to whatever length is required. So all the ends are cut. How do they gain the colours then? They have a coloured polymer coating. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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