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Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering
how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. waves -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 28/07/2020 17:27, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike +1. Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway at the bottom of the garden, which backs-on to fields. Initially I was concerned about the new regs but when I described my situation to someone on the advice line they said I didn't need to do anything - unfortunately verbal advice isn't worth the paper it's not written on. |
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Muddymike Wrote in message:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike Holà -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 28/07/2020 17:27, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. I dont, I have an aerobic digester (Klargester Biodisc) Mike -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques. |
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"Muddymike" wrote in message o.uk... Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike === We do! |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:14:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows Yes they do, it's cess pits that don't have an out flow. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # Oh dear.... -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 28/07/2020 17:27, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. kind of - more of a cess pit (800 gallon brick brick cube with a lid set into the ground), but the overflow is piped to the sewage treatment plant on the adjacent farm. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:27:41 PM UTC+1, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike I have a septic tank, but you all know that I said so before. I am assuming my tank is within regulations because I cannot make any sense of anything anymore. |
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:14:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # You're thinking of a cess pit! Septic tanks have outflows. https://tinyurl.com/y63fqm9v Chris === The only difference to ours is that the pipe doesn't go into an absorption field but straight to a burn, though that then flows into a marsh area before any water flows into the river. |
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"april showers" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:27:41 PM UTC+1, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike I have a septic tank, but you all know that I said so before. I am assuming my tank is within regulations because I cannot make any sense of anything anymore. == LOL |
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april showers Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:27:41 PM UTC+1, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike I have a septic tank, but you all know that I said so before. I am assuming my tank is within regulations because I cannot make any sense of anything anymore. Ask the council to call & explain it.... -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 28/07/2020 17:27, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike and I. Shared with other half of semi. Large, dates from 1940's apparently. It's in a field about fifty feet from the house. -- djc (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree. |
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On 28/07/2020 17:27, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. As do I. |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike
wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside. It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) |
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On 28/07/2020 19:36, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:14:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows Yes they do, it's cess pits that don't have an out flow. Ah. Then perhaps I have one -- €œwhen things get difficult you just have to lie€ €• Jean Claud Jüncker |
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"Scott" wrote in message
... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside. It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) Cess pit: sealed container which has no outflow and does little to process the sewage - effectively everything that goes in has to be emptied back out. Septic tank: two vessels which process the sewage and discharge *fairly* innocuous liquid into a soakway or a water course (though the latter is not allowed in the new 2020 regs) Mini sewage works: septic tank with mechanical agitation and maybe air bubbled through the sewage to help it to rot more, discharging liquid which is cleaner than for a septic tank, into either a soakway or a watercourse (the latter *is* allowed in the 2020 regs). |
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On 29/07/2020 12:03, NY wrote:
Cess pit: sealed container which has no outflow and does little to process the sewage - effectively everything that goes in has to be emptied back out. Septic tank: two vessels which process the sewage and discharge *fairly* innocuous liquid into a soakway or a water course (though the latter is not allowed in the new 2020 regs) Neither have been allowed for years. That's why I had to put in what you call a 'mini sewage works' back in the noughties.. had a septic tank discharging into a soakaway, they said 'New house? Cant use that' Mini sewage works: septic tank with mechanical agitation and maybe air bubbled through the sewage to help it to rot more, discharging liquid which is cleaner than for a septic tank, into either a soakway or a watercourse (the latter *is* allowed in the 2020 regs). Other methods are allowable. I.e. reed beds etc etc -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques. |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:13:56 PM UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/07/2020 17:27, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. I dont, I have an aerobic digester (Klargester Biodisc) Mike -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques. neighbour has one of those. Bit of a pong in warm weather. We have a septic tank which overflowed and thus spoiled the leach field. Local expert dug a huge long pit, filled it with rocks , piped septic tank in one end and outlet to adjacent small stream at the other end, covered it all in soil. I have my doubts if this is acceptable but we do get the solids emptied once a year. |
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:27:41 PM UTC+1, Muddymike wrote:
Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. Mike |
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On 29/07/2020 12:27, fred wrote:
On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:13:56 PM UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/07/2020 17:27, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I do. I dont, I have an aerobic digester (Klargester Biodisc) Mike -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques. neighbour has one of those. Bit of a pong in warm weather. Then its not working correctly. Only time mine pongs is when te motor drive fails We have a septic tank which overflowed and thus spoiled the leach field. Local expert dug a huge long pit, filled it with rocks , piped septic tank in one end and outlet to adjacent small stream at the other end, covered it all in soil. I have my doubts if this is acceptable but we do get the solids emptied once a year. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as foolish, and by the rulers as useful. (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD) |
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"Scott" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside. It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) === LOL serve them right ))) |
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On 29/07/2020 17:03, Ophelia wrote:
"Scott"Â* wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside.Â* It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) === Â* LOL serve them right ))) cesspool |
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On 29/07/2020 18:20, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 17:03, Ophelia wrote: "Scott"Â* wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside.Â* It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) === Â*Â* LOL serve them right ))) cesspool How do you 'syphon' anything from a tank that is below ground ?. |
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:04:28 +0100, Andrew wrote:
I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside.Â* It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) cesspool How do you 'syphon' anything from a tank that is below ground ?. Presumably the tea leaves found the pump out connection for the camper vans toilet. That tank has no out flow and needs regular emptying so is "cess pit" rather than a "septic tank". -- Cheers Dave. |
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Andrew wrote:
On 29/07/2020 18:20, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote: On 29/07/2020 17:03, Ophelia wrote: "Scott"Â* wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside.Â* It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) === Â*Â* LOL serve them right ))) cesspool How do you 'syphon' anything from a tank that is below ground ?. I assume whats being referred to is a motorhomes waste tank (under the floor of the motorhome) rather than a true septic tank. I think the story is an urban legend though. Motorhomes often have fresh water tank fillers that look a bit like fuel tank caps but grey water (or toilet waste) drain taps could not be mistaken for fuel fillers. Canal boats however DO have waste tanks with stoppers almost identical to their fuel tank fillers (a screw in brass plug). Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 29/07/2020 22:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:04:28 +0100, Andrew wrote: I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside.ÂÂ* It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) cesspool How do you 'syphon' anything from a tank that is below ground ?. Presumably the tea leaves found the pump out connection for the camper vans toilet. That tank has no out flow and needs regular emptying so is "cess pit" rather than a "septic tank". that's what I said ... |
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On 28/07/2020 19:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # They do in Belgium. There they require a septic tank on every home or building and the water going into the drains is just the non-solids. It means that homeowners who put stupid things down the toilet have to pay big money to have their septic tank pumped out. Didn't have any problems with ours when we lived there. You just have to be a bit careful with not using bleach and things that might stall it. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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Martin Brown Wrote in message:
On 28/07/2020 19:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # They do in Belgium. There they require a septic tank on every home or building and the water going into the drains is just the non-solids. It means that homeowners who put stupid things down the toilet have to pay big money to have their septic tank pumped out. Shurely *every* homeowner there has to pay to have their septic tank pumped out on a regular basis? -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 29/07/2020 22:16, Tim+ wrote:
Andrew wrote: On 29/07/2020 18:20, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote: On 29/07/2020 17:03, Ophelia wrote: "Scott"Â* wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside.Â* It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) === Â*Â* LOL serve them right ))) cesspool How do you 'syphon' anything from a tank that is below ground ?. I assume whats being referred to is a motorhomes waste tank (under the floor of the motorhome) rather than a true septic tank. I think the story is an urban legend though. Motorhomes often have fresh water tank fillers that look a bit like fuel tank caps but grey water (or toilet waste) drain taps could not be mistaken for fuel fillers. Canal boats however DO have waste tanks with stoppers almost identical to their fuel tank fillers (a screw in brass plug). Tim just noticed yesterday my car fuel tank has an anti-syphon device fitted in the neck which won't let you tip the tank up to empty it...... simple device |
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"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 29/07/2020 18:20, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote: On 29/07/2020 17:03, Ophelia wrote: "Scott" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:27:40 +0100, Muddymike wrote: Recent post about septic tank produced a lot of hot air. Just wondering how many on this list actually live in a house served by a septic tank? I liked the story (which I hope is true) about the couple asleep in their camper van when they heard sounds of a disturbance outside. It turned out someone was attempting to syphon the fuel but syphoned the septic tank instead :-) ===   LOL serve them right ))) cesspool How do you 'syphon' anything from a tank that is below ground ?. ==== With a pump? |
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On 30/07/2020 09:25, Jimk wrote:
Martin Brown Wrote in message: On 28/07/2020 19:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # They do in Belgium. There they require a septic tank on every home or building and the water going into the drains is just the non-solids. It means that homeowners who put stupid things down the toilet have to pay big money to have their septic tank pumped out. Shurely *every* homeowner there has to pay to have their septic tank pumped out on a regular basis? No. Solids rot down pretty quickly if you manage it properly. Ours ran for 5 years without any difficulty. We had to pay to have it pumped out at the end of the lease but it was very well behaved. (condition of the lease not because it needed doing - it didn't) -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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"Jimk" wrote in message o.uk... Martin Brown Wrote in message: On 28/07/2020 19:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # They do in Belgium. There they require a septic tank on every home or building and the water going into the drains is just the non-solids. It means that homeowners who put stupid things down the toilet have to pay big money to have their septic tank pumped out. Shurely *every* homeowner there has to pay to have their septic tank pumped out on a regular basis? Jimk ==== I don't know about Belgium but here in Scotland we do! ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 30/07/2020 10:30, Ophelia wrote:
"Jimk"Â* wrote in message Shurely *every* homeowner there has to pay to have their septic tank pumped out on a regular basis? Â* I don't know about Belgium but here in Scotland we do! When we bought this house back in the 90s, on the same bill as our council tax, we paid a flat-rate water and sewerage charge. This covered mains sewerage and for those of us with septic systems it covered pumping out the tank every x years. Then it changed - no sewerage charge on the council tax bill, but a very reasonable charge for pumping when needed. There is now a fairly high (haven't checked lately) charge for pumping out. |
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"Jimk" wrote in message o.uk... Martin Brown Wrote in message: On 28/07/2020 19:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # They do in Belgium. There they require a septic tank on every home or building and the water going into the drains is just the non-solids. It means that homeowners who put stupid things down the toilet have to pay big money to have their septic tank pumped out. Shurely *every* homeowner there has to pay to have their septic tank pumped out on a regular basis? Nope, the best ones don't. My work had one and it was never pumped out. |
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"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
"Jimk" wrote in message o.uk... Martin Brown Wrote in message: On 28/07/2020 19:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/07/2020 18:11, wrote: Mine was built in the 1930s and the outlet goes to a 3 foot diameter soakaway Then it isnt a septcic tank is it? They don't have outflows # They do in Belgium. There they require a septic tank on every home or building and the water going into the drains is just the non-solids. It means that homeowners who put stupid things down the toilet have to pay big money to have their septic tank pumped out. Shurely *every* homeowner there has to pay to have their septic tank pumped out on a regular basis? Nope, the best ones don't. My work had one and it was never pumped out. Oh FFS look who it is... -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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