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On 29/07/2020 10:19, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 02:31, Paul wrote:
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computers make me sick...I just want something that WORKS....not
interested in all this ****e.....


You have a point.

If only they made analog computers, ones without updates.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

computers are just not an acceptable consumer item .....


Are American cars an acceptable consumer item ?

Shouldn't all cars have a chauffeur to drive and fix it ?.
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On 29/07/2020 10:20, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 00:20, Paul wrote:
newshound wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:45, jon wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:51:39 +0100, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


In December 2019 I stopped all updates and telemetry from Microsoft.

Just had my first install of 2004 on an Acer laptop, which is now
running like treacle. Installs paused on all other machines while I
see if that recovers, or whether I need to do a roll-back.


You could turn some stuff off, but then it would be little
better than running 15063 or so.

When you smash it and break stuff, then you get some cycles back.
And Pro is better for this, because you can do some of what's needed
with GPEDIT (there are two controls to disable Windows Defender,
not just one). The controls in the GUI to disable Windows Defender
don't work, but GPEDIT does.

And this is an example of trashing Windows Update.

Â*Â*Â* rename wuaueng.dll wuaueng.dll.bak

The hard part is figuring out an environment where
you can get that to work.

The whole project is a lot like putting lipstick on a pig.

And they can ladle on abuse, faster than you can buy
faster hardware to compensate. All OSes are carrying
out "container" projects, designed to slow things
down. (Snaps, flatpaks, WSL2, you name it.) They want
to enable Hyper-V on the machines, to support their
container ideas. But a lot of machines, most of the
machines I've got, can't have Hyper-V turned on.
As SLAT/EPT support is missing in hardware. I have just
one machine with SLAT/EPT on it. Second Level Address Translation
is used to make gamer video cards work better in a
Hyper-V environment.

If Jim just wants to use the machine, he could put
ChromeOS (like a ChromeBook uses) on it. I have a
USB stick with the ChromeOS installer on it. But when
I tested that on two computers, it installed fine on one machine
but failed to install on the other. That's why I can't
tell Jim about that :-) He would say something about
fecking computers if his machine was a dud afterwards.
I was really surprised when that installer worked.
I thought for sure it would never work.

I'd sell copies of Win98, but there's not much you can
do with Win98 today. Web browsing wouldn't work. He couldn't
Youtube and stuff. Where's the fun if you can't Youtube ?

Some day when all this COVID is over, Jim can drop into
a store and test a ChromeBook and see if he likes it.
Maybe that would be less likely to brick.

I can't recommend Linux, because at least some of the
Linux distros are getting to behave like Windows. And you
still need nerd commands to escape from messes. Looking
up all those nerd commands is hard work (...systemd).

Â*Â*Â* Paul

no idea what you are talking about...


He said Win10 is getting bloated, Linux is almost as bad
but ChromeOS might be suitable.
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On 29/07/2020 13:54, Andrew wrote:
On 29/07/2020 10:19, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 02:31, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

computers make me sick...I just want something that WORKS....not
interested in all this ****e.....

You have a point.

If only they made analog computers, ones without updates.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

computers are just not an acceptable consumer item .....


Are American cars an acceptable consumer item ?


yes

Shouldn't all cars have a chauffeur to drive and fix it ?.


no

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Shouldn't all cars have a chauffeur to drive and fix it ?.


Good lord no. One doesn't want one's chauffer getting his hands or
suit all oily maintaining one's car. Light wipe over the body work
with a damp cloth whilst waiting for you, outside, at most. One has
one's mechanic to do all the nasty oily messy stuff.

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On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:11:51 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:30:34 +0100, "Jim GM4 DHJ ..."
wrote:

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computers make me sick...I just want something that WORKS....not
interested in all this ****e.....


Do you have the box it came in and the receipt, I can help you with
what to say when you take it back.

Actually (and for a change), you do actually have sort of a point.

Whilst most desktop OS's have evolved and generally improved, they
sometimes still can't fully fix themselves.

The problem though is some people like to be able to change / modify
stuff, and that brings in 'options' and settings, changing some (or
them getting changed by accident), can render the solution useless.

So the nearest to what it sounds like you need is a tablet of some
sort. Whilst you can still screw them up (as a novice might view it,
like my 90year old Mum turning the WiFi off on her iPad), you can't so
easily do so by say, just turning them off the wrong way.

Or Boot Linux from a DVD and then you can't break anything. ;-)

Cheers, T i m


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On 29/07/2020 16:27, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 13:54:55 +0100, Andrew wrote:

Shouldn't all cars have a chauffeur to drive and fix it ?.


Good lord no. One doesn't want one's chauffer getting his hands or
suit all oily maintaining one's car. Light wipe over the body work
with a damp cloth whilst waiting for you, outside, at most. One has
one's mechanic to do all the nasty oily messy stuff.

wish I had a mechanic ...
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On 29/07/2020 10:28, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:31, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 12:28, Andrew wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:39, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:22, alan_m wrote:
On 28/07/2020 08:51, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...

This is the update with all the improvements and plugs the
millions of security leaks.

The last time MS did a major update on my machine it was unusable
for around an hour with update processes working in the background.

I will have another go with it this morning and will try another
moose ....

What Win10 release did you update ?. 1909 or the 2004 'upgrade'?
how would I know the ferkin' thing is always updating this is the
first one that has caused trouble for a while.....


winver

is the command to use to determine "version.patchlevel" .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...ersion_history

Â*Â*Â* WINVERÂ*Â*Â*Â* Year/Month

Â*Â*Â* 10240.xxxÂ* 1507
Â*Â*Â* 10586.xxxÂ* 1511
Â*Â*Â* 14393.xxxÂ* 1607
Â*Â*Â* 15063.xxxÂ* 1703
Â*Â*Â* 16299.xxxÂ* 1709
Â*Â*Â* 17134.xxxÂ* 1803
Â*Â*Â* 17763.xxxÂ* 1809
Â*Â*Â* 18362.xxxÂ* 1903
Â*Â*Â* 18363.xxxÂ* 1909
Â*Â*Â* 19041.xxxÂ* 2004Â* === Jim is here, xxx will be the
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* last patch (Patch Tuesday) arriving

Jim did W10 Install only recently, new media used,
no crusty older disc. So "winver" dialog box should say
19041.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...

that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers
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On 29/07/2020 18:23, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 10:28, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:31, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 12:28, Andrew wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:39, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:22, alan_m wrote:
On 28/07/2020 08:51, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...

This is the update with all the improvements and plugs the
millions of security leaks.

The last time MS did a major update on my machine it was unusable
for around an hour with update processes working in the background.

I will have another go with it this morning and will try another
moose ....

What Win10 release did you update ?. 1909 or the 2004 'upgrade'?
how would I know the ferkin' thing is always updating this is the
first one that has caused trouble for a while.....

winver

is the command to use to determine "version.patchlevel" .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...ersion_history

Â*Â*Â* WINVERÂ*Â*Â*Â* Year/Month

Â*Â*Â* 10240.xxxÂ* 1507
Â*Â*Â* 10586.xxxÂ* 1511
Â*Â*Â* 14393.xxxÂ* 1607
Â*Â*Â* 15063.xxxÂ* 1703
Â*Â*Â* 16299.xxxÂ* 1709
Â*Â*Â* 17134.xxxÂ* 1803
Â*Â*Â* 17763.xxxÂ* 1809
Â*Â*Â* 18362.xxxÂ* 1903
Â*Â*Â* 18363.xxxÂ* 1909
Â*Â*Â* 19041.xxxÂ* 2004Â* === Jim is here, xxx will be the
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* last patch (Patch Tuesday) arriving

Jim did W10 Install only recently, new media used,
no crusty older disc. So "winver" dialog box should say
19041.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...

that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers


Have you tried switching it off and on again ?. :-)

I mean properly OFF and wait a few minutes.
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On 29/07/2020 18:21, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 16:27, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 13:54:55 +0100, Andrew wrote:

Shouldn't all cars have a chauffeur to drive and fix it ?.


Good lord no. One doesn't want one's chauffer getting his hands or
suit all oily maintaining one's car. Light wipe over the body work
with a damp cloth whilst waiting for you, outside, at most. One has
one's mechanic to do all the nasty oily messy stuff.

wish I had a mechanic ...


Get your wife a boiler suit and a Haynes manual ?
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On 29/07/2020 20:12, Andrew wrote:
On 29/07/2020 18:21, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 16:27, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 13:54:55 +0100, Andrew wrote:

Shouldn't all cars have a chauffeur to drive and fix it ?.

Good lord no. One doesn't want one's chauffer getting his hands or
suit all oily maintaining one's car. Light wipe over the body work
with a damp cloth whilst waiting for you, outside, at most. One has
one's mechanic to do all the nasty oily messy stuff.

wish I had a mechanic ...


Get your wife a boiler suit and a Haynes manual ?

she has one she had it on today replacing the fuel tank


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On 29/07/2020 20:10, Andrew wrote:
On 29/07/2020 18:23, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 10:28, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:31, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 12:28, Andrew wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:39, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:22, alan_m wrote:
On 28/07/2020 08:51, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...

This is the update with all the improvements and plugs the
millions of security leaks.

The last time MS did a major update on my machine it was
unusable for around an hour with update processes working in the
background.

I will have another go with it this morning and will try another
moose ....

What Win10 release did you update ?. 1909 or the 2004 'upgrade'?
how would I know the ferkin' thing is always updating this is the
first one that has caused trouble for a while.....

winver

is the command to use to determine "version.patchlevel" .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...ersion_history

Â*Â*Â* WINVERÂ*Â*Â*Â* Year/Month

Â*Â*Â* 10240.xxxÂ* 1507
Â*Â*Â* 10586.xxxÂ* 1511
Â*Â*Â* 14393.xxxÂ* 1607
Â*Â*Â* 15063.xxxÂ* 1703
Â*Â*Â* 16299.xxxÂ* 1709
Â*Â*Â* 17134.xxxÂ* 1803
Â*Â*Â* 17763.xxxÂ* 1809
Â*Â*Â* 18362.xxxÂ* 1903
Â*Â*Â* 18363.xxxÂ* 1909
Â*Â*Â* 19041.xxxÂ* 2004Â* === Jim is here, xxx will be the
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* last patch (Patch Tuesday) arriving

Jim did W10 Install only recently, new media used,
no crusty older disc. So "winver" dialog box should say
19041.

Â*Â*Â* Paul
that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...

that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers


Have you tried switching it off and on again ?. :-)

I mean properly OFF and wait a few minutes.

yip
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On 29/07/2020 14:01, Andrew wrote:
On 29/07/2020 10:20, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 00:20, Paul wrote:
newshound wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:45, jon wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:51:39 +0100, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


In December 2019 I stopped all updates and telemetry from Microsoft.

Just had my first install of 2004 on an Acer laptop, which is now
running like treacle. Installs paused on all other machines while I
see if that recovers, or whether I need to do a roll-back.

You could turn some stuff off, but then it would be little
better than running 15063 or so.

When you smash it and break stuff, then you get some cycles back.
And Pro is better for this, because you can do some of what's needed
with GPEDIT (there are two controls to disable Windows Defender,
not just one). The controls in the GUI to disable Windows Defender
don't work, but GPEDIT does.

And this is an example of trashing Windows Update.

Â*Â*Â* rename wuaueng.dll wuaueng.dll.bak

The hard part is figuring out an environment where
you can get that to work.

The whole project is a lot like putting lipstick on a pig.

And they can ladle on abuse, faster than you can buy
faster hardware to compensate. All OSes are carrying
out "container" projects, designed to slow things
down. (Snaps, flatpaks, WSL2, you name it.) They want
to enable Hyper-V on the machines, to support their
container ideas. But a lot of machines, most of the
machines I've got, can't have Hyper-V turned on.
As SLAT/EPT support is missing in hardware. I have just
one machine with SLAT/EPT on it. Second Level Address Translation
is used to make gamer video cards work better in a
Hyper-V environment.

If Jim just wants to use the machine, he could put
ChromeOS (like a ChromeBook uses) on it. I have a
USB stick with the ChromeOS installer on it. But when
I tested that on two computers, it installed fine on one machine
but failed to install on the other. That's why I can't
tell Jim about that :-) He would say something about
fecking computers if his machine was a dud afterwards.
I was really surprised when that installer worked.
I thought for sure it would never work.

I'd sell copies of Win98, but there's not much you can
do with Win98 today. Web browsing wouldn't work. He couldn't
Youtube and stuff. Where's the fun if you can't Youtube ?

Some day when all this COVID is over, Jim can drop into
a store and test a ChromeBook and see if he likes it.
Maybe that would be less likely to brick.

I can't recommend Linux, because at least some of the
Linux distros are getting to behave like Windows. And you
still need nerd commands to escape from messes. Looking
up all those nerd commands is hard work (...systemd).

Â*Â*Â* Paul

no idea what you are talking about...


He said Win10 is getting bloated, Linux is almost as bad
but ChromeOS might be suitable.

oh right
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On 29/07/2020 18:23, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 29/07/2020 10:28, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 13:31, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 12:28, Andrew wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:39, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 28/07/2020 10:22, alan_m wrote:
On 28/07/2020 08:51, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...

This is the update with all the improvements and plugs the
millions of security leaks.

The last time MS did a major update on my machine it was unusable
for around an hour with update processes working in the background.

I will have another go with it this morning and will try another
moose ....

What Win10 release did you update ?. 1909 or the 2004 'upgrade'?
how would I know the ferkin' thing is always updating this is the
first one that has caused trouble for a while.....

winver

is the command to use to determine "version.patchlevel" .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...ersion_history

Â*Â*Â* WINVERÂ*Â*Â*Â* Year/Month

Â*Â*Â* 10240.xxxÂ* 1507
Â*Â*Â* 10586.xxxÂ* 1511
Â*Â*Â* 14393.xxxÂ* 1607
Â*Â*Â* 15063.xxxÂ* 1703
Â*Â*Â* 16299.xxxÂ* 1709
Â*Â*Â* 17134.xxxÂ* 1803
Â*Â*Â* 17763.xxxÂ* 1809
Â*Â*Â* 18362.xxxÂ* 1903
Â*Â*Â* 18363.xxxÂ* 1909
Â*Â*Â* 19041.xxxÂ* 2004Â* === Jim is here, xxx will be the
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* last patch (Patch Tuesday) arriving

Jim did W10 Install only recently, new media used,
no crusty older disc. So "winver" dialog box should say
19041.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...

that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers


don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do now ?????
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well that is it working again just used ps2 moose and keyboard...so the
desktop has went from not recognising ps2 and having to use USB to using
ps2 for keyboard and mouse...I HATE FECKING COMPUTERS THEY DRIVE BE
FECKING MAD....
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Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...

that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers


don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do now ?????


There is a troubleshooter.

https://cdn.howtofixwindows.com/wp-c...bleshooter.jpg

But it's the usual problem. How do you
use a Troubleshooter, when all your HID devices
are busted ?

Paul


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Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...
that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers














don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do now
?????


There is a troubleshooter.

https://cdn.howtofixwindows.com/wp-c...bleshooter.jpg


But it's the usual problem. How do you
use a Troubleshooter, when all your HID devices
are busted ?

Â*Â* Paul


I keep a PS2 keyboard plugged all the time even though I
use a USB2 keyboard and rodent. PS2 one always works. Nice
trusty HP/DEC/Digital LK 2
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On 30/07/2020 15:48, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...
that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers













don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do now
?????


There is a troubleshooter.

https://cdn.howtofixwindows.com/wp-c...bleshooter.jpg


But it's the usual problem. How do you
use a Troubleshooter, when all your HID devices
are busted ?

Â*Â*Â* Paul


I keep a PS2 keyboard plugged all the time even though I
use a USB2 keyboard and rodent. PS2 one always works. Nice
trusty HP/DEC/Digital LK 2


Sorry, had to slide it out from behind the tower case ...

LK450 with special keys for HP/Digital DEC forms applications.
Nice solid key action.
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Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...
that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers


don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do now
?????


There is a troubleshooter.

https://cdn.howtofixwindows.com/wp-c...bleshooter.jpg


But it's the usual problem. How do you
use a Troubleshooter, when all your HID devices
are busted ?

Â*Â* Paul

that is what I thought but a ps2 moose and keyboard solved the problem...
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Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 30/07/2020 15:48, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose is
fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would try
another moose etc...
that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers

don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do now
?????


There is a troubleshooter.

https://cdn.howtofixwindows.com/wp-c...bleshooter.jpg


But it's the usual problem. How do you
use a Troubleshooter, when all your HID devices
are busted ?

Paul

that is what I thought but a ps2 moose and keyboard solved the problem...


Exactly.

You can run multiple keyboards and multiple moose, no problem at all.

If a few aren't detected... you're on Windows 10 :-)

*******

On Linux when the keyboard stops working, it's stuff
like DBUS that died. You run an RS232 cable from the
Linux box to the Windows box, and talk to the Linux
box over RS232 until you fix it. I now have a cable
permanently set up between machines, just for rescuing
Linux.

No computer is immune from feckery.

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On 31/07/2020 00:01, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 30/07/2020 15:48, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose
is fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would
try another moose etc...
that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers

don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do
now ?????

There is a troubleshooter.

https://cdn.howtofixwindows.com/wp-c...bleshooter.jpg


But it's the usual problem. How do you
use a Troubleshooter, when all your HID devices
are busted ?

Â*Â*Â* Paul

that is what I thought but a ps2 moose and keyboard solved the problem...


Exactly.

You can run multiple keyboards and multiple moose, no problem at all.

If a few aren't detected... you're on Windows 10 :-)

*******

On Linux when the keyboard stops working, it's stuff
like DBUS that died. You run an RS232 cable from the
Linux box to the Windows box, and talk to the Linux
box over RS232 until you fix it. I now have a cable
permanently set up between machines, just for rescuing
Linux.

No computer is immune from feckery.

Â*Â* Paul

Computers should come with a warning


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snip

Have you tried switching it off and on again ?. :-)

I mean properly OFF and wait a few minutes.

yip


At the mains socket or on the PSU switch (if it has one), not just
shutting it down?

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On 31/07/2020 10:08, T i m wrote:
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wrote:

snip

Have you tried switching it off and on again ?. :-)

I mean properly OFF and wait a few minutes.

yip


At the mains socket or on the PSU switch (if it has one), not just
shutting it down?

Cheers, T i m

beep beep killfile man...you can't see me...good...tee hee
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On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:25:30 +0100, "Jim GM4 DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 31/07/2020 10:08, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:18:08 +0100, "Jim GM4 DHJ ..."
wrote:

snip

Have you tried switching it off and on again ?. :-)

I mean properly OFF and wait a few minutes.
yip


At the mains socket or on the PSU switch (if it has one), not just
shutting it down?


beep beep killfile man...you can't see me...good...tee hee


WTF are you going on about now Crazy Jim?

Is it because I said you *could* be the first person I ever killfiled,
before I concluded you were not worthy of such effort?

Initially, I thought you were just a wind-up, then I decided you were
just stupid ... and you can't really blame stupid. ;-(

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On 31/07/2020 06:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 31/07/2020 00:01, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 30/07/2020 15:48, Paul wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:

that wasn't THIS machine which is working fine I have three other
windows 10 road kill desktops one of which updated and the moose
is fecked.....I am replacing a fuel tank at the moment or I would
try another moose etc...
that is the tank done...tried the wife's cordless moose....not
working....doesn't look good for me....hate bloody computers

don't think the bloody keyboard is working either...what can I do
now ?????

There is a troubleshooter.

https://cdn.howtofixwindows.com/wp-c...bleshooter.jpg


But it's the usual problem. How do you
use a Troubleshooter, when all your HID devices
are busted ?

Â*Â*Â* Paul
that is what I thought but a ps2 moose and keyboard solved the
problem...


Exactly.

You can run multiple keyboards and multiple moose, no problem at all.

If a few aren't detected... you're on Windows 10 :-)

*******

On Linux when the keyboard stops working, it's stuff
like DBUS that died. You run an RS232 cable from the
Linux box to the Windows box, and talk to the Linux
box over RS232 until you fix it. I now have a cable
permanently set up between machines, just for rescuing
Linux.

No computer is immune from feckery.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

Computers should come with a warning


So should kids ....

Last nights Newsnight visited Salisbury District Hospital where
they have had no patients with Covid-19 for a while, yet people
are still avoiding the place.

But the number of women registering for a scan is up 10%, so expect
a bulge of something at Christmas.
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Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


You could always stop using all computers Jim, including mobile phones (at
least smart phones).

Less stress for you.

No pointless drivel from you polluting various newsgroups.



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On 02/08/2020 05:09, Brian Reay wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


You could always stop using all computers Jim, including mobile phones (at
least smart phones).

Less stress for you.

No pointless drivel from you polluting various newsgroups.



Might seem pointless to someone you who is an expert in what the judge
told you that YOU do ...
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On 02/08/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 05:09, Brian Reay wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


You could always stop using all computers Jim, including mobile phones
(at
least smart phones).

Less stress for you.

No pointless drivel from you polluting various newsgroups.



Might seem pointless to someone you who is an expert in what the judge
told you that YOU do ...


puerile banter etc.....tee hee
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On 02/08/2020 08:04, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 05:09, Brian Reay wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


You could always stop using all computers Jim, including mobile
phones (at
least smart phones).

Less stress for you.

No pointless drivel from you polluting various newsgroups.



Might seem pointless to someone you who is an expert in what the judge
told you that YOU do ...


puerile banter etc.....tee hee


puerile
/ˈpjʊərʌɪl/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
adjective: puerile

childishly silly and immature.
"a puerile argument"
h
Similar:
childish

immature
infantile
juvenile
adolescent
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On 02/08/2020 08:17, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 08:04, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 05:09, Brian Reay wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


You could always stop using all computers Jim, including mobile
phones (at
least smart phones).

Less stress for you.

No pointless drivel from you polluting various newsgroups.



Might seem pointless to someone you who is an expert in what the
judge told you that YOU do ...


puerile banter etc.....tee hee


puerile
/ˈpjʊərʌɪl/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
adjective: puerile

Â*Â*Â* childishly silly and immature.
Â*Â*Â* "a puerile argument"
Â*Â*Â* h
Â*Â*Â* Similar:
Â*Â*Â* childish

immature
infantile
juvenile
adolescent
babyish


I noticed this puerile comment about your mate
Nicola in the papets today :-

For the benefit of the SNP supporters who are yet to be turned by the
Fishwife worming away in Edinburgh, please consider the following:

If Nicola Sturgeon can continue to berate the English in a racist rant
then one feels it necessary to repeat her political failures ....

She failed to become a lawyer of any note.

She failed to be elected onto numerous Scottish Councils during the
1980s and early 1990s.

She failed to become elected as an MP in the Scottish Parliament during
the 1990s on too many times to recall accurately.

She failed to become elected as a Scottish MP in the HoC in 1992.

She eventually won a Scottish Parliament seat for Glasgow Govan in 1999.

She failed as the Shadow Minister for Children and Education between
1999 to 2000.

She failed as Shadow Minister for Health and Community Care between 2000
to 2003.

She even failed as Shadow Minister for Justice between 2003 to 2004.

She even failed as a member of various committees too.

She failed to become the leader of the SNP in 2004.

She failed as the leader of the Scottish Parliament from 2004 to 2007.

She failed as Deputy First Minister in the Scottish Parliament between
2007 to 2012.

She failed as a Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing and in 2012
she was moved sideways as the Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure,
Investment and Cities in the Scottish Parliament.

She was defeated in the 2014 Scottish Independence Campaign.

As Salmond resigned as First Minister following the Scottish
Independence Campaign and nobody else wanted to accept the poisoned
chalice, Sturgeon was appointed First Minister by default.

She failed, as First Minister, even in the three General Elections to
increase the SNP vote share above 45%.

She has failed to convince the Scottish electorate that independence is
a viable option for Scotland.

She has failed to convince the Scottish electorate that remaining in the
EU is a viable option for Scotland.

She has failed to prove to the world that she is a credible leader of
the Scottish electorate and worthy of serious consideration.

She failed to secure a mandate for Scottish Independence again in 2019
when more Scottish voters DID NOT vote for the SNP than did so.

SNP 45% of the votes, while 54.9% DID NOT VOTE FOR HER SNP.

Apparently, recently she failed to offer an accurate account of the
Chinese virus statistics and has received universal condemnation for
this despicable behaviour.

Finally, this Public Purse Parasite has monumentally failed the peoples
of Scotland in every aspect of her political life. Therefore, just like
Salmond, Blair and Brown she will forever be remembered for her lifes
failings too.



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On 02/08/2020 21:33, Andrew wrote:
On 02/08/2020 08:17, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 08:04, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/08/2020 05:09, Brian Reay wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
anybody just had an update and now their mouse has stopped
working?.....did this not happen before?...fecked up a load of
drivers?.....hate bloody computers...


You could always stop using all computers Jim, including mobile
phones (at
least smart phones).

Less stress for you.

No pointless drivel from you polluting various newsgroups.



Might seem pointless to someone you who is an expert in what the
judge told you that YOU do ...

puerile banter etc.....tee hee


puerile
/ˈpjʊərʌɪl/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
adjective: puerile

Â*Â*Â*Â* childishly silly and immature.
Â*Â*Â*Â* "a puerile argument"
Â*Â*Â*Â* h
Â*Â*Â*Â* Similar:
Â*Â*Â*Â* childish

immature
infantile
juvenile
adolescent
babyish


I noticed this puerile comment about your mate
Nicola in the papets today :-

For the benefit of the SNP supporters who are yet to be turned by the
Fishwife worming away in Edinburgh, please consider the following:

If Nicola Sturgeon can continue to berate the English in a racist rant
then one feels it necessary to repeat her political failures ....

She failed to become a lawyer of any note.

She failed to be elected onto numerous Scottish Councils during the
1980s and early 1990s.

She failed to become elected as an MP in the Scottish Parliament during
the 1990s on too many times to recall accurately.

She failed to become elected as a Scottish MP in the HoC in 1992.

She eventually won a Scottish Parliament seat for Glasgow Govan in 1999.

She failed as the Shadow Minister for Children and Education between
1999 to 2000.

She failed as Shadow Minister for Health and Community Care between 2000
to 2003.

She even failed as Shadow Minister for Justice between 2003 to 2004.

She even failed as a member of various committees too.

She failed to become the leader of the SNP in 2004.

She failed as the leader of the Scottish Parliament from 2004 to 2007.

She failed as Deputy First Minister in the Scottish Parliament between
2007 to 2012.

She failed as a Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing and in 2012
she was moved sideways as the Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure,
Investment and Cities in the Scottish Parliament.

She was defeated in the 2014 Scottish Independence Campaign.

As Salmond resigned as First Minister following the Scottish
Independence Campaign and nobody else wanted to accept the poisoned
chalice, Sturgeon was appointed First Minister by default.

She failed, as First Minister, even in the three General Elections to
increase the SNP vote share above 45%.

She has failed to convince the Scottish electorate that independence is
a viable option for Scotland.

She has failed to convince the Scottish electorate that remaining in the
EU is a viable option for Scotland.

She has failed to prove to the world that she is a credible leader of
the Scottish electorate and worthy of serious consideration.

She failed to secure a mandate for Scottish Independence again in 2019
when more Scottish voters DID NOT vote for the SNP than did so.

SNP 45% of the votes, while 54.9% DID NOT VOTE FOR HER SNP.

Apparently, recently she failed to offer an accurate account of the
Chinese virus statistics and has received universal condemnation for
this despicable behaviour.

Finally, this Public Purse Parasite has monumentally failed the peoples
of Scotland in every aspect of her political life. Therefore, just like
Salmond, Blair and Brown she will forever be remembered for her lifes
failings too.



well she didn't have sex with Salmond so I suppose that is
something......Yes she is hopeless ... I prefer being ignored by
Westminster myself.....the home counties are far more important than
Scotland
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