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thescullster September 3rd 04 10:59 PM

Specific Fixings Required
 


HI All

I will be collecting my bathroom accessories tomorrow and need advice on
suitable screw fixings.

For the most part I will be securing to plaster board dividing walls with
two layers of tiles!
Can anyone recommend suitable cavity type fixings for this application?
I will be fitting up towel railm, soap dish, mirror and the like.

Any recommendations on specific fixing types greatly appreciated.

TIA

Phil



Andy Hall September 4th 04 12:06 AM

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:59:50 +0100, "thescullster"
wrote:



HI All

I will be collecting my bathroom accessories tomorrow and need advice on
suitable screw fixings.

For the most part I will be securing to plaster board dividing walls with
two layers of tiles!
Can anyone recommend suitable cavity type fixings for this application?
I will be fitting up towel railm, soap dish, mirror and the like.

Any recommendations on specific fixing types greatly appreciated.

TIA

Phil


Compressing metal cavity fixings (aka Hollow Wall Anchor on Screwfix
site) are the best choice for this.

The plastic fittings are a bit feeble for this job, maybe apart from
the soap dish.

I prefer the wall anchors because you can undo the bolt and the base
of the fitting remains in place. You can also adjust the bolt in and
out if you need to do so to hang the fitting on the screw with a slot.

The hole is quite large, but with most of these fittings, the fitting
hides the fixing.



..andy

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chris French September 4th 04 01:29 AM

In message , Andy Hall
writes
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:59:50 +0100, "thescullster"
wrote:



HI All

I will be collecting my bathroom accessories tomorrow and need advice on
suitable screw fixings.

For the most part I will be securing to plaster board dividing walls with
two layers of tiles!
Can anyone recommend suitable cavity type fixings for this application?
I will be fitting up towel railm, soap dish, mirror and the like.

Any recommendations on specific fixing types greatly appreciated.


Compressing metal cavity fixings (aka Hollow Wall Anchor on Screwfix
site) are the best choice for this.


One thing to take care with in this situation is that the fixing is
pushed through the tile into the wall. Otherwise it may crack the tile.
--
Chris French, Leeds

Andy Hall September 4th 04 01:38 AM

On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:29:20 +0100, chris French
wrote:

In message , Andy Hall
writes
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:59:50 +0100, "thescullster"
wrote:



HI All

I will be collecting my bathroom accessories tomorrow and need advice on
suitable screw fixings.

For the most part I will be securing to plaster board dividing walls with
two layers of tiles!
Can anyone recommend suitable cavity type fixings for this application?
I will be fitting up towel railm, soap dish, mirror and the like.

Any recommendations on specific fixing types greatly appreciated.


Compressing metal cavity fixings (aka Hollow Wall Anchor on Screwfix
site) are the best choice for this.


One thing to take care with in this situation is that the fixing is
pushed through the tile into the wall. Otherwise it may crack the tile.


Yep. One trick is to make a slightly bigger hole in just the tile.
Alternatively, a plastic washer under it will also do the trick.


..andy

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Chris J Dixon September 4th 04 08:39 AM

chris French wrote:

In message , Andy Hall
writes
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:59:50 +0100, "thescullster" wrote:


I will be collecting my bathroom accessories tomorrow and need advice on
suitable screw fixings.

For the most part I will be securing to plaster board dividing walls with
two layers of tiles!
Can anyone recommend suitable cavity type fixings for this application?
I will be fitting up towel railm, soap dish, mirror and the like.

Any recommendations on specific fixing types greatly appreciated.

Compressing metal cavity fixings (aka Hollow Wall Anchor on Screwfix
site) are the best choice for this.

One thing to take care with in this situation is that the fixing is
pushed through the tile into the wall. Otherwise it may crack the tile.


I take the point with the plastic type of fixing (even then, if
it must be tricky to get it through and yet not drop into the
cavity. Surely metal cavity fixings have a portion which has to
stay on the surface of the tile, passing through to the body
which is compressed behind the plasterboard.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

thescullster September 4th 04 05:13 PM

Snip

Alternatively, a plastic washer under it will also do the trick.


Thanks Andy

I was kind of wondering what to do about the little "teeth" that are
supposed to dig into the plaster surface

Phil



Peter Parry September 4th 04 11:27 PM

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 00:06:08 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:

Compressing metal cavity fixings (aka Hollow Wall Anchor on Screwfix
site) are the best choice for this.


Two layers of tiles and a layer of plasterboard are way beyond what
hollowalls will manage. You need to try to get into the backing
studs or use a fixing which will cope with such depth. Something
like the Fischer plasterboard plugs which are very tolerant of
substrate depth will be much better.


--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

Grunff September 4th 04 11:35 PM

thescullster wrote:

I was kind of wondering what to do about the little "teeth" that are
supposed to dig into the plaster surface


When I've used these fixings on tiles I've simply bent the teeth flat
with the rest of the flange. Works fine.

--
Grunff

Andy Hall September 4th 04 11:38 PM

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 23:27:18 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 00:06:08 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:

Compressing metal cavity fixings (aka Hollow Wall Anchor on Screwfix
site) are the best choice for this.


Two layers of tiles and a layer of plasterboard are way beyond what
hollowalls will manage.


If you use long ones, they are fine - I've done it.

They have the advantage of reuseability.

You need to try to get into the backing
studs or use a fixing which will cope with such depth. Something
like the Fischer plasterboard plugs which are very tolerant of
substrate depth will be much better.


The plastic ones?

The trouble I've found with any of the plastic ones is that they are
not man enough for anything heavy. A soap dish might be OK, but a
towel rail with wet towels....??? Recipe for a hole in the wall,
broken tiles.


Another option is to use spring toggles with longer bolts than
supplied if necessary. If a nut and washer are threaded on them and
then the toggle pushed through the hole, it is possible to arrange a
length of projecting thread plus bolt head for hanging things on b yt
ightening the nut against the washer and surface of the tiles.. It
is fiddly to do this, but very secure.



..andy

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