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the yorkshire dalesman March 2nd 04 10:55 PM

backing box for wall light
 
What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.

I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.

The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.

TIA for all help

Lurch March 2nd 04 11:17 PM

backing box for wall light
 
On 2 Mar 2004 14:55:30 -0800, in uk.d-i-y
(the yorkshire dalesman) strung together this:

What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.

I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.

The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.

No box is the norm. You can, if you like, use an architrave box.

...

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

Andrew Gabriel March 2nd 04 11:44 PM

backing box for wall light
 
In article ,
(Lurch) writes:
On 2 Mar 2004 14:55:30 -0800, in uk.d-i-y

(the yorkshire dalesman) strung together this:

What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.

I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.

The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.

No box is the norm. You can, if you like, use an architrave box.


BESA box is more likely to have correct fixing screw spacing,
although not all wall mount fittings use same orientation.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Dave Plowman March 2nd 04 11:49 PM

backing box for wall light
 
In article ,
the yorkshire dalesman wrote:
What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.


The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.


I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.


The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.


They're normally made to fit a BESA or conduit box. You could use either a
cast iron one if the fittings are heavy, or a plastic one if not. Some of
the sheds stock the plastic type (they're round) but I think you'll need a
wholesaler for the metal ones.

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Lurch March 3rd 04 12:14 AM

backing box for wall light
 
On 2 Mar 2004 23:44:55 GMT, in uk.d-i-y
(Andrew Gabriel) strung together this:

In article ,
(Lurch) writes:
On 2 Mar 2004 14:55:30 -0800, in uk.d-i-y

(the yorkshire dalesman) strung together this:

What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.

I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.

The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.

No box is the norm. You can, if you like, use an architrave box.


BESA box is more likely to have correct fixing screw spacing,
although not all wall mount fittings use same orientation.

Or that, depends what the centres are on the fixings. Quite a few have
adjustable slots on a seperate fixing bracket. Best bet would be for
the OP to check centres on the fixing holes and find a box that fits,
if he really wants to that is.
...

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

Set Square March 3rd 04 12:23 AM

backing box for wall light
 

"the yorkshire dalesman" wrote in message
om...
What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.

I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.

The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.

TIA for all help


I don't usually use a box of any sort - but simply remove a small square of
plaster to make a cavity for the chocolate-block connector, and fix the
light fitting to the wall with woodscrews and rawlplugs.

I assume that when others refer to "no box" they have done something
similar.

Cheers,
Set Square



John March 3rd 04 07:25 AM

backing box for wall light
 
The worst situation is then the fixing holes are top and bottom - and the
cable drops vertically!

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Regards

John


"the yorkshire dalesman" wrote in message
om...
What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.

I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.

The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.

TIA for all help



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nightjar March 3rd 04 08:44 AM

backing box for wall light
 

"the yorkshire dalesman" wrote in message
om...
What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights


IMO, one of the worst makes for electrical products. I have had nothing but
problems with Ring equipment. If you want cheap, go to an electrical
wholesaler and buy their own name brand. However, I tend to find that
electrical accessories are one area where paying more up front is a saving
in the long term.

Colin Bignell



ARWadsworth March 3rd 04 06:21 PM

backing box for wall light
 

"Set Square" wrote in message
...

"the yorkshire dalesman" wrote in message
om...
What is the correct type backing box to put on a wall for wall lights.

The type of light I will want to fit would be probably one of the Ring
make lights (as sold in Homebase, B&Q etc) which are typically mounted
12 to 24 inches below the ceiling.

I lokked into one box & the instructions showed a backing box in the
wall without stating what type of box it should be.

The mounts on these lights appear to have holes 2in apart or so, so
bringing the cable out through a standard square backing box gives
mounting problems for the light fitting.

TIA for all help


I don't usually use a box of any sort - but simply remove a small square

of
plaster to make a cavity for the chocolate-block connector, and fix the
light fitting to the wall with woodscrews and rawlplugs.

I assume that when others refer to "no box" they have done something
similar.


I have in the past used an architrave back boxes sunk into the wall to
accommodate the cables and strip connector. There are not many wall lights
that will not cross the back box (about 1 inch) and for loop in type wiring
it gives plenty of space for the connections. The lights themselves are
screwed to the wall not the box.

--
Adam





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