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John Durham March 2nd 04 06:36 PM

Pipe run between Cold water tank and hot water cylinder.
 
Can anyone advise - I have a 50 gallon tan in the loft which has two
outlets - one provides the feed to the cold side of the pump for the shower
and the other feeds the hot water cylinder. If many showers are had one
after the other the hot supply appears to run out - however the cold water
tank is still 2/3 full and the cold feed is therefore still happy. I am
concluding that the problem is the rate at which the cold water tank can
replenish the level in the hot water cylinder as the feed from the cylinder
is pumped and the feed in is not (i.e. gravity from the cold water tank).
To make matters worse their is one section of pipe between the loft tank and
the cylinder which rises about 12" and falls - this, I would imagine is air
lock inviting - but I cleared the airlock originally present.

The obvious answer would seam to be to reroute to eliminate the raised
pipework and possible airlock but would this still get around the basic fact
that the pump will always draw water from the cylinder (41 gallons by the
way) faster than gravity will feed it?

Any advice welcome - I realise these are fairly basic questions....

John



Lurch March 2nd 04 07:02 PM

Pipe run between Cold water tank and hot water cylinder.
 
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:36:50 -0000, in uk.d-i-y "John Durham"
strung together this:

It's more than likely the rate at which the boiler can reheat the
tank, not at the rate at which the tank can be refilled. Have a look
at fast recovery cylinders for starters.
...

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

John Durham March 2nd 04 10:04 PM

Pipe run between Cold water tank and hot water cylinder.
 
I have a fast recovery cylinder. The problem is that the water drops below
the outlet height on the cylinder i think.

Any ideas?

John
"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:36:50 -0000, in uk.d-i-y "John Durham"
strung together this:

It's more than likely the rate at which the boiler can reheat the
tank, not at the rate at which the tank can be refilled. Have a look
at fast recovery cylinders for starters.
..

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.




Christian McArdle March 3rd 04 10:02 AM

Pipe run between Cold water tank and hot water cylinder.
 
I have a fast recovery cylinder. The problem is that the water drops
below the outlet height on the cylinder i think.


You're saying that the water flow ceases entirely?

The way that a gravity fed cylinder works, if the flow rate is too high,
then the hot water will start drawing air through the vent quite quickly.
Perhaps the hot feed on the cold tank isn't near the top? Alternatively, the
system is marginal and the reduced head when the tank is 2/3 full is enough
to reduce the hot water cylinder replenishment enough to draw air.

Does the shower pump run off a flange on the cylinder, or off the top vent?
If the top vent, you should install a flange.

Christian.





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