On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:00:03 +0100, nemofish wrote:

We have two rooms seperated by about 60m within a large complex. I have
recently run a telephone extention cable between the two rooms and now
need to buy a couple of phones but I'm not sure which kind to get. I need
to be able to accept calls in both rooms and have the ability to transfer
a call between the two phones. I also need to have an answerphone
facility on one of the phones.

Can anyone advise on what type of phones will meet my requirements?

Many thanks.
Mat.

I have a pair of dect binatone microdect phones and in the
instructions it tells you about transfering calls...

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Phones - slightly OT
 

We have two rooms seperated by about 60m within a large complex. I have
recently run a telephone extention cable between the two rooms and now
need to buy a couple of phones but I'm not sure which kind to get. I need
to be able to accept calls in both rooms and have the ability to transfer
a call between the two phones. I also need to have an answerphone
facility on one of the phones.

Can anyone advise on what type of phones will meet my requirements?

Many thanks.
Mat.

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Alex wrote:

Anyway, what you can do is buy 2 base units & handsets (not just 1 base unit
with 2 handsets). Then register both handsets to both base units. You will
have the ability to transfer incoming calls from one handset to another,
answer or make calls at either handset, make internal calls between
handsets, hold 3 way calls and this is the good bit - the handset will use
whichever base unit it's nearest to, effectively extending your working area
(although you can't transfer from one base unit to another during a call if
that makes sense!)

Be aware though that it may well take quite a few (non-obvious)
keystrokes to transfer calls and to switch from one line to the other.
Most modern DECT phones are built down to a price and thus have as few
buttons as possible when more buttons would make them much easier to
understand and use.

Most DECT phones are good as 'ordinary' phones but not nearly so good
for more complex requirements.

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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:00:03 +0100, nemofish wrote:

We have two rooms seperated by about 60m within a large complex. I have
recently run a telephone extention cable between the two rooms and now
need to buy a couple of phones but I'm not sure which kind to get. I
need
to be able to accept calls in both rooms and have the ability to transfer
a call between the two phones. I also need to have an answerphone
facility on one of the phones.

Can anyone advise on what type of phones will meet my requirements?

Many thanks.
Mat.

I have a pair of dect binatone microdect phones and in the
instructions it tells you about transfering calls...

--
Free stuff by post
http://www.freestuffbypost.co.uk

It's not DECT so much you need to watch out for, as the fact that they are
GAP compatible (although I think they all are now??)

Anyway, what you can do is buy 2 base units & handsets (not just 1 base unit
with 2 handsets). Then register both handsets to both base units. You will
have the ability to transfer incoming calls from one handset to another,
answer or make calls at either handset, make internal calls between
handsets, hold 3 way calls and this is the good bit - the handset will use
whichever base unit it's nearest to, effectively extending your working area
(although you can't transfer from one base unit to another during a call if
that makes sense!)

I found this all out when working out how to use my old Phillips DECT phone
as a handset in the workshop (where there is no phone line) by registering
it to my new Panasonic base unit indoors. Easy once you know how! Do a
search on google.

Alex

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:00:03 +0100, nemofish wrote:

We have two rooms seperated by about 60m within a large complex. I have
recently run a telephone extention cable between the two rooms and now
need to buy a couple of phones but I'm not sure which kind to get. I need
to be able to accept calls in both rooms and have the ability to transfer
a call between the two phones. I also need to have an answerphone
facility on one of the phones.

Can anyone advise on what type of phones will meet my requirements?

uk.telecom

Thanks for the repy. If I understand correctly in order to transfer a call
the hanset you are using only needs to be within range of the nearest base
unit (not the remote base unit) and that when transferring a call it is
transfered from the local base unit to the remote base unit and then to
the other phone? Hope this makes sense, but I just wanted to make sure
that both phones don't need to be within range of the same base unit in
order to transfer a call.

Do the base units usually come with a built in answer phone?

Thanks for the help.

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Alex wrote:
Be aware though that it may well take quite a few (non-obvious)
keystrokes to transfer calls and to switch from one line to the other.
Most modern DECT phones are built down to a price and thus have as few
buttons as possible when more buttons would make them much easier to
understand and use.

Most DECT phones are good as 'ordinary' phones but not nearly so good
for more complex requirements.

--
Chris Green

On both my DECT handsets (one old one new) you transfer in the same way as
you'd make an internal call.

Press the internal call key, followed by the number of the handset you
require. This then connects you to the other handset, lets you talk to the
other handset user. When you hang up, the caller is transferred to the other
handset.

Not disagreeing with you in the slightest Chris, just saying that in my very
limited experience, for the price (bearing in mind no cables have to be run)
it's a pretty good end product.

No argument about how good DECT phones are, we like ours. However not
all are easy as yours to dial one of the other handsets. I also
believe the OP wants to be able to switch either handset to either
incoming line and this too may need quite a few button presses.

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Chris Green

nemofish wrote:

Thanks for the repy. If I understand correctly in order to transfer a call
the hanset you are using only needs to be within range of the nearest base
unit (not the remote base unit) and that when transferring a call it is
transfered from the local base unit to the remote base unit and then to
the other phone? Hope this makes sense, but I just wanted to make sure
that both phones don't need to be within range of the same base unit in
order to transfer a call.

It must surely be within range of both base units to be able to
transfer a call, how could it work otherwise?


Do the base units usually come with a built in answer phone?

Only if you buy a DECT with built-in answerphone, it's not part of the
DECT standard. DECTs with an answerphone are quite common though.

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Many thanks. I'll try uk.telecom.

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Be aware though that it may well take quite a few (non-obvious)
keystrokes to transfer calls and to switch from one line to the other.
Most modern DECT phones are built down to a price and thus have as few
buttons as possible when more buttons would make them much easier to
understand and use.

Most DECT phones are good as 'ordinary' phones but not nearly so good
for more complex requirements.

--
Chris Green

On both my DECT handsets (one old one new) you transfer in the same way as
you'd make an internal call.

Press the internal call key, followed by the number of the handset you
require. This then connects you to the other handset, lets you talk to the
other handset user. When you hang up, the caller is transferred to the other
handset.

Not disagreeing with you in the slightest Chris, just saying that in my very
limited experience, for the price (bearing in mind no cables have to be run)
it's a pretty good end product.

Alex

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Alex wrote:
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On both my DECT handsets (one old one new) you transfer in the same way
as
you'd make an internal call.

Press the internal call key, followed by the number of the handset you
require. This then connects you to the other handset, lets you talk to
the
other handset user. When you hang up, the caller is transferred to the
other
handset.

Not disagreeing with you in the slightest Chris, just saying that in my
very
limited experience, for the price (bearing in mind no cables have to be
run)
it's a pretty good end product.

No argument about how good DECT phones are, we like ours. However not
all are easy as yours to dial one of the other handsets. I also
believe the OP wants to be able to switch either handset to either
incoming line and this too may need quite a few button presses.


Agree about DECT phones, generally a good thing IMHO.

don't think that the OP has mentioned having two lines though. Multi-line
DECT solutions are not that common, and were definitely not cheap last time
I looked.


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I also
believe the OP wants to be able to switch either handset to either
incoming line and this too may need quite a few button presses.



I don't think the OP mentioned 2 lines did he?

Neil

"nemofish" wrote in message
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Thanks for the repy. If I understand correctly in order to transfer a call
the hanset you are using only needs to be within range of the nearest base
unit (not the remote base unit) and that when transferring a call it is
transfered from the local base unit to the remote base unit and then to
the other phone? Hope this makes sense, but I just wanted to make sure
that both phones don't need to be within range of the same base unit in
order to transfer a call.

Do the base units usually come with a built in answer phone?

Thanks for the help.

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Ahhh, you got me there. I think they have to be in range of the same base
unit :( I am not sure though. Ask on uk.telecom (or one of the american
groups) as others have suggested.

Typing something like internal call transfer base unit range DECT into
google groups should shed some light I'd have thought.

Sorry if what I said earlier doesn't apply :(

Alex

"nemofish" wrote in message
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Nope, I don't need 2 incomming phone lines. I have a single phone
line
but need to be able to transfer calls between 2 handsets. The problem
I
have is the distance between the two handsets which means that a
single
base unit & 2 handset solution is not suitable.


Maybe this would help?

http://www.pmctelecom.co.uk/shopping...and=33e5be22d3
d55af7961dc899a4c89f26&ccat=23&hidcat=152&txt_sear chstring=152&txt_from=
2

http://tinyurl.com/4vyvl

Neil

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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:00:03 +0100, nemofish wrote:

We have two rooms seperated by about 60m within a large complex. I have
recently run a telephone extention cable between the two rooms and now
need to buy a couple of phones but I'm not sure which kind to get. I
need
to be able to accept calls in both rooms and have the ability to
transfer
a call between the two phones. I also need to have an answerphone
facility on one of the phones.

Can anyone advise on what type of phones will meet my requirements?



Philips Onis Vox 380 - superb.

nemofish wrote:
Nope, I don't need 2 incomming phone lines. I have a single phone line
but need to be able to transfer calls between 2 handsets. The problem I
have is the distance between the two handsets which means that a single
base unit & 2 handset solution is not suitable.

Ah, that wasn't clear from your original posting (not to me anyway!).

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Nope, I don't need 2 incomming phone lines. I have a single phone line
but need to be able to transfer calls between 2 handsets. The problem I
have is the distance between the two handsets which means that a single
base unit & 2 handset solution is not suitable.

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nemofish wrote:
We have two rooms seperated by about 60m within a large complex. I have
recently run a telephone extention cable between the two rooms and now
need to buy a couple of phones but I'm not sure which kind to get. I need
to be able to accept calls in both rooms and have the ability to transfer
a call between the two phones. I also need to have an answerphone
facility on one of the phones.

Can anyone advise on what type of phones will meet my requirements?

Starting again from the beginning of the thread as I think I now
understand what you want.

I doubt a DECT system is going to work well for you as the two phones
will be separated by 60 metres inside a building and thus will be just
too far apart to work with a single DECT base station. If you have
two DECT base stations and register both phones with both base
stations I don't think that helps. If you receive a call on one phone
I don't think most DECTs can keep that call when they transfer to
another base station, even if they can it'll be a bit messy from the
button pressing point of view.

I can think of a couple of possible answers:-

1 - Put a single DECT base station half way between the two rooms,
this will require you to add another socket but you don't have to
leave a phone on that base. It can even be inaccessible high up on
a wall (might give better range there). Buy an extra charger/base
to accomodate the phone from the base station in one of the rooms
instead.

Come to think of it this means you didn't need to wire the
extension to one of the rooms!

2 - Get a DECT 'repeater', these extend the range by up to 50 metres
indoors, 300 metres out of doors. Put the DECT base station in
one of the rooms, place the repeater about half way and then you
just need a charger and DECT phone in the other room. This makes
your wiring between the rooms completely redundant!


If you're going for a DECT solution it's worth checking carefully that
you will get the range you need inside the building, metal frames etc.
may well mean that the range is nowhere near 50 metres.

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nemofish wrote:
I doubt a DECT system is going to work well for you

This seems a fair enough assumption. Considering the price of multiple DECT
bases and phones it might be cheaper to get a basic PABX.

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nemofish wrote:
I doubt a DECT system is going to work well for you

This seems a fair enough assumption. Considering the price of
multiple DECT
bases and phones it might be cheaper to get a basic PABX.


Out of interest, such as what and how much?

Cheers

Neil

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"Ric" wrote in message
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nemofish wrote:
I doubt a DECT system is going to work well for you

This seems a fair enough assumption. Considering the price of
multiple DECT
bases and phones it might be cheaper to get a basic PABX.


Out of interest, such as what and how much?

A quick search has brought up this:

http://www.exteradirect.co.uk/product_info.php?id=169

One line and up to six extensions for £130 - has voicemail facilities and
quite a few other features. I'm sure there are others out there too and you
may even be able to get this one cheaper elsewhere - as I say, only a quick
search!

Alex wrote:


Anyway, what you can do is buy 2 base units & handsets (not just 1 base unit
with 2 handsets). Then register both handsets to both base units. You will
have the ability to transfer incoming calls from one handset to another,

Minor point, but if the dect phone in one room can communicate with a
base station in the other room, there was not much point in installing
the phone extension wire in the first place, and you could achieve the
same result with one dect base and two handsets. ;-) If the rooms are
out of dect range then you also have a problem with this approach.


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nemofish wrote:

Thanks for the repy. If I understand correctly in order to transfer a
call the hanset you are using only needs to be within range of the
nearest base unit (not the remote base unit) and that when transferring
a call it is transfered from the local base unit to the remote base unit
and then to the other phone? Hope this makes sense, but I just wanted
to make sure that both phones don't need to be within range of the same
base unit in order to transfer a call.

Do the base units usually come with a built in answer phone?

I expect that you will need to be in range of BOTH bases from both phones.

I think you would be better off looking for a small PBX solution.


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Alex wrote:

Anyway, what you can do is buy 2 base units & handsets (not just 1 base
unit
with 2 handsets). Then register both handsets to both base units. You
will
have the ability to transfer incoming calls from one handset to another,
answer or make calls at either handset, make internal calls between
handsets, hold 3 way calls and this is the good bit - the handset will
use
whichever base unit it's nearest to, effectively extending your working
area
(although you can't transfer from one base unit to another during a call
if
that makes sense!)

Be aware though that it may well take quite a few (non-obvious)
keystrokes to transfer calls and to switch from one line to the other.
Most modern DECT phones are built down to a price and thus have as few
buttons as possible when more buttons would make them much easier to
understand and use.


There are DECT phone built especially for PABX use - Alcatel for instance -
so look at these.

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:14:02 +0100, "Neil Jones"
strung together this:

Out of interest, such as what and how much?

One of these. http://www.ultimate106.co.uk/

Available here. http://www.telephones-online.co.uk/itm01059.htm

Quite a useful little system, uses ordinary analogue phones and has
quite a few good features.
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SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:14:02 +0100, "Neil Jones"
strung together this:

Out of interest, such as what and how much?

One of these. http://www.ultimate106.co.uk/

Available here. http://www.telephones-online.co.uk/itm01059.htm

Quite a useful little system, uses ordinary analogue phones and has
quite a few good features.
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SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

Thanks

nemofish wrote:
We have two rooms seperated by about 60m within a large complex. I
have recently run a telephone extention cable between the two rooms
and now need to buy a couple of phones but I'm not sure which kind to
get. I need to be able to accept calls in both rooms and have the
ability to transfer a call between the two phones. I also need to
have an answerphone facility on one of the phones.

Can anyone advise on what type of phones will meet my requirements?

http://www.asterisk.org will do it for you.

Neil Jones wrote:
"Ric" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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nemofish wrote:
I doubt a DECT system is going to work well for you

This seems a fair enough assumption. Considering the price of
multiple DECT bases and phones it might be cheaper to get a basic
PABX.


Out of interest, such as what and how much?

Such as http://www.asterisk.org

and £FREE