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alan_m June 16th 20 07:50 PM

OTish Replacement Garage Windows
 
On 15/06/2020 18:58, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 15/06/20 18:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2020 17:42, charles wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â* The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2020 16:34, Adrian wrote:
Unlikely to be a DIY job (for me anyway), so OT.

I've have a detached garage, and one of the window frames and cill
board
is looking like it is in need of replacement.Â* The cill board has been
rebuilt with plastic wood several times, but is now getting to the
stage
where there is very little real wood left to bind the plastic stuff
to.
I've also noticed that the frame has a split in the wood, so I think
that is on its way out too.

I'm aware of building regs / FENSA for houses, but do these also apply
to detached garages ?Â* It would be helpful to know before I start
talking to window manufacturers.

Nope. you can pretty much do what you want.

Its not a habitable space so insulation and most of the safety aspects
go by the board. For example you can glaze a greenghouse with
unaccepbly
dangerous single glazing of 3mm agricultural glass that is quite
dangerous should you fall through it.

About a month ago, a bird flew into one of greenhouse panle. 4mm
toughened
glass - took a week to get a replacement piece - and it wasn't cheap.

surprised that it was toughened and actually broke


+1

I had a 1500 x 600mm roof panel of toughened glass sucked out of a
greenhouse
(caused by strange air flow over a 6m high conifer hedge close by) and
deposited on the lawn 6m away. That happened twice and the glass didn't
break. I doubled the number of clips holding the glass on until I had
the hedge removed.

Also, we've had birds fly into double glazed french doors many times and
the glass hasn't broken. Sounds to me like the Charles had some dodgy
glass.


Could it be the way the glass is supported? In DG units the glass is
supported on all sides and for the full length of each side. Greenhouse
glass is usually clipped in a a few point places, and probably on two
sides only. It is relatively easy to crack greenhouse glass when fitting.

In a house belonging to a relative bird strikes were once common,
possibly because the birds could see the front to the back of the house
through two windows, or possibly because the reflection of the outside
world. There were no net curtains. The window never broke. The cure was
to stick something on the middle of the glass (a small stained glass
type motif).

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Tricky Dicky[_4_] June 16th 20 11:51 PM

OTish Replacement Garage Windows
 
The FENSA requirement is a nice little earner racket for installers. At the end of the day the main required specifications are met by the window manufacturer in the majority of cases all the installer does is fasten it to the opening, installs the glass and seals the frame/opening interface all of which any competent DIYer could do. Yet come to sell a house without a FENSA or other equivalent certificates gets convayencing lawyers having melt downs.

Richard


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