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100 metre wifi
I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight.
Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. |
100 metre wifi
On 05/06/2020 10:23, polygonum_on_google wrote:
I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. a standard pair of router will work IF you remove the supplied antennae and bang in some sort of mini directional antennae and line em up e.g. https://www.amazon.co.uk/2-4Ghz-dire.../dp/B00WBS10N0 For more bandwidth spend more on https://wifigear.co.uk/wireless-brid...-point-bridges -- The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. €“ H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956 |
100 metre wifi
On Friday, 5 June 2020 10:23:50 UTC+1, polygonum_on_google wrote:
I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. Have you considered connecting one or more directional antennas to a WiFi access point that has RF connectors? High gain Yagis, log-periodics and multi-element patch antennas can be found on eBay. Alternatively, have a look at Ubiquiti and MicroTik who both make a range of point-to-point ethernet repeaters. John |
100 metre wifi
On 05/06/2020 10:23, polygonum_on_google wrote:
I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. Pringles can? https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to...ingles-can-nb/ -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
100 metre wifi
alan_m wrote:
Pringles can? https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to...ingles-can-nb/ It's worth a go, but also to point out that a lot of these were designed in the 802.11b era, when top speed was 11Mbit/s. It's worth paying close attention to any set of instructions you follow as to whether it gives any speed measurements. Back in the day, 1Mbps was ample when you had a 512Kbit/s broadband connection. Nowadays 1Mbps broadband is unusable. Theo |
100 metre wifi
On 05/06/2020 10:23, polygonum_on_google wrote:
I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). The absolute cheapest way for that sort of range in in true DIY style is a pair of cantennas made out of old Pringle cans and some RF bits. Some soldering and slightly dodgy RF legality is involved in such a bodge. I chose to do it with a normal router and a flat plate 14dB antenna and a cheap (intended to be sacrificial) USB Wifi dongle with removable antenna at the other. This was to extend my personal Wifi to the VH for doing computer classes when I wanted internet. That is about 100m. I had planned to make a cantenna (indeed I dutifully ate the caustic crisps in the can) but ran out of roundtuits before I needed to have a working solution and quickly so I bought the right bits. I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. I'd try this dongle from Morgan at the far end together with a high gain antenna and suitable interconnect cable from Solwise. https://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/pr...ntenna-Dongle/ This one is the cheapest now and looks very much like my 14dB unit. https://www.solwise.co.uk/wireless-o...panel-10pn.htm Extra directional gain is helpful so you probably want the next one up which looks somewhat different. You can use an outdoor antenna indoors. You do need to be able to point the thing moderately accurately in about the right direction but it is nowhere near as tetchy as a yagi. I hung the remote antenna in a window facing my house when I needed it. Shorter distances to the garden shed you might just get away with a right sized foil parabolic cylinder behind the original rod antenna. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
100 metre wifi
polygonum_on_google explained :
Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. If the two antennae can be sited with line of sight... I set up a link of 3/4 of a mile some years ago, using two modified wifi routers and carefully aligned homemade Yagi antennae. I disconnected the built in antennas and used good quality 3Ghz coax no more than a couple of meters at each. My link worked rather well, despite there being lots of other wifi along the route. |
100 metre wifi
On 05/06/2020 10:23, polygonum_on_google wrote:
I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. While there are a number of "crufted" solutions adding directional antennae to normal wifi kit, you can get proper self contained external bridging units fairly cheaply these days. For example, these can be had for under £40: https://www.tp-link.com/uk/service-p.../cpe210/v3.20/ If you set them up in bridging mode, then they look just like a bit of layer 2 networking infrastructure (e.g. like a network switch), they become "transparent" and behave much like you had strung a long ethernet wire between sites. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
100 metre wifi
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 02:23:47 -0700 (PDT), polygonum_on_google
wrote: I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. I did this for an elderly neighbour for a while. We had a diagonal line-of-sight across a fairly wide road and front driveways that I'll measure by pacing out the next time I go out. I was able to run a Cat5 patch cable from her spare front bedroom to her router in the lounge and put a Bridge / AP / Ethernet to WiFi adaptor on the windowsill in that bedroom window. My AP happened to be at the front of the house and I was able to get a pertty good / reliable link with just that. In fact, the only time we generally lost the link was if a removals lorry parked in the road between us. ;-) I helped set up similar for a mate in his workshop who wanted Internet access and was given permission by a local company to use theirs. We positioned a (TP-Link) WiFi repeater (in this instance) fairly high behind some wooden facia and it has been able to provide a reliable link so far (couple of years)? Again, only really has any issues if a large lorry parks between them. As an experiment with another neighbour here I setup A TP-Link device, an AP in this case (TL-WA801ND) again in Ethernet to Wi-Fi mode and with it stood on my front bedroom windowsill (with the aerials looking though the glass at his house), I was able to connect to his network. In this case it was to try moving some big files but the link speed was reduced and it was pretty slow. That unit has removable aerials And I tried a small Yagi on one but can't remember if it helped at all / much (mate would probably have to do the same his end). Cheers, T i m |
100 metre wifi
Jethro_uk wrote:
Wasn't there a laser-based solution for such cases ? https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...-network-made- with-red-and-green-laser-pointers might appeal to the DIYer ? rain and fog will eat into your link budget ... |
100 metre wifi
On 05/06/2020 10:33, alan_m wrote:
On 05/06/2020 10:23, polygonum_on_google wrote: I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. Pringles can? https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to...ingles-can-nb/ definitely worth it as a starting point -- €œI know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.€ €• Leo Tolstoy |
100 metre wifi
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 12:28:05 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Wasn't there a laser-based solution for such cases ? https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...s-network-made - with-red-and-green-laser-pointers rain and fog will eat into your link budget ... That's why commercial laser links use IR lasers. Should imagine the really hard part is having a sturdy enough mount that is easy to align but doesn't wobble. Doesn't take much movement of the laser pointer to shift the dot 100 m away quite a distance. -- Cheers Dave. |
100 metre wifi
On 05/06/2020 10:23, polygonum_on_google wrote:
I want to make our internet connection available to another house about 100 metres away - with direct line-of-sight. Too far for standard wifi to work reliably (even if it worked on the drive, I don't think it would do so inside). I am well aware that various pairs of devices are available which can do the job. Do you have any recommendations? Least expensive that will do the job without being rubbish. Doesn't need any fancy facilities at all. I have a wifi router I can use inside. So this is just for the house-to-house link. A friend of mine did this with a couple of woks to get from the village to his farmhouse, but he's an electronics guy who knows his stuff and likes tinkering. Pringles can cantennas aren't very good, but using a larger diameter can works, plenty of info online. -- Cheers Clive |
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