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Cut the grass. One extreme to another
A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted
out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Andrew |
Cut the grass. One extreme to another
Andrew posted
A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Much the same here in east Devon. Where do you live? -- Max |
Cut the grass. One extreme to another
On Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:38:18 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Andrew Looks like we've moved to a "Mediterranean climate." |
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On 05/04/2020 17:07, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:38:18 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Andrew Looks like we've moved to a "Mediterranean climate." Indeed, glorious in the garden today. |
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On Sunday, 5 April 2020 17:13:01 UTC+1, Brian Reay wrote:
Indeed, glorious in the garden today. I suddenly realised it was colder inside than out, so I've got all my windows open, bleached the winter mould off, and am listening to people socially isolating in the allotments. Owain |
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On 05/04/2020 17:05, Maxwell Boltzmann wrote:
Andrew posted A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Much the same here in east Devon. Where do you live? South East |
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On 05/04/2020 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:38:16 +0100, Andrew wrote: A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Not where I live. Been putting of the first cut of the year ... going to try and run the blade through the knife sharpener, rather than buy a new one, and make the first cut the highest, and then trim it lower before they collect the green waste. Most councils have stopped collecting green waste, surely ?. |
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Andrew wrote:
Most councils have stopped collecting green waste, surely ?. I don't have a garden waste bin, but neighbours put theirs out on Friday, and I heard a second collection after the recycling one. |
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On 05/04/20 17:21, Andrew wrote:
Most councils have stopped collecting green waste, surely ?. Staffordshire Moorlands District Council certainly haven't nor have they threatened to. Another Dave -- Change nospam to techie |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ...
On 05/04/2020 17:07, harry wrote: On Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:38:18 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Andrew Looks like we've moved to a "Mediterranean climate." Indeed, glorious in the garden today. ==== We are in the Scottish Highlands and have had very little rain too:( -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 05/04/2020 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:38:16 +0100, Andrew wrote: A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Not where I live. Been putting of the first cut of the year ... going to try and run the blade through the knife sharpener, rather than buy a new one, and make the first cut the highest, and then trim it lower before they collect the green waste. Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had got as far as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago it was still far to soggy. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 05/04/2020 17:21, Andrew wrote:
On 05/04/2020 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote: On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:38:16 +0100, Andrew wrote: A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Not where I live. Been putting of the first cut of the year ... going to try and run the blade through the knife sharpener, rather than buy a new one, and make the first cut the highest, and then trim it lower before they collect the green waste. Most councils have stopped collecting green waste, surely ?. Ours still seems to be doing it... (then again our "green" waste is also food waste and so is collected every week anyway) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Cut the grass. One extreme to another
On Sunday, 5 April 2020 17:42:55 UTC+1, JimK wrote:
people socially isolating in the allotments. Dogging? No, but there are two people who arrive in separate cars but have the same shed. Owain |
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On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:38:16 +0100, Andrew wrote:
A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Andrew Given the lack of rain generally I would put the treatment on tonight to catch the rain tomorrow. Just done ours, and it was cut a couple of days ago. It may not be ideal but getting the treatment on and washed in seems the lesser of two evils. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 05/04/2020 17:21, Andrew wrote:
On 05/04/2020 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote: On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:38:16 +0100, Andrew wrote: A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Not where I live. Been putting of the first cut of the year ... going to try and run the blade through the knife sharpener, rather than buy a new one, and make the first cut the highest, and then trim it lower before they collect the green waste. Most councils have stopped collecting green waste, surely ?. Our council did stop the green bin collection, but as it is a combined garden waste and food waste bin, many people were complaining that they already had food waste in the bin before the cancellation was announced and that it would all be rotting. They have therefore announced that they will be doing one more green bin collection in the coming week and that people should put food waste into the general waste (grey) bin from then on. SteveW |
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If you don't use water down deep, then you end up with bald patches and
other bits all lanky and tufty, depending on the type of grass. At least that was what we ended up with in 76. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Andrew" wrote in message ... A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Andrew |
Cut the grass. One extreme to another
John Rumm formulated the question :
Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had got as far as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago it was still far to soggy. I did my third run round with my little tractor/mower yesterday, the first cut at the beginning of last week when it was just dry enough to drive on. I don't collect the cuttings, otherwise it chokes the blades up, I just make the initial cuts in stages, longest then shorter. Just two weeks ago, it needed wellies just to walk upon it. |
Cut the grass. One extreme to another
In message , Harry Bloomfield
writes John Rumm formulated the question : Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had got as far as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago it was still far to soggy. I did my third run round with my little tractor/mower yesterday, the first cut at the beginning of last week when it was just dry enough to drive on. I don't collect the cuttings, otherwise it chokes the blades up, I just make the initial cuts in stages, longest then shorter. My rideon mower struggles with collecting wettish grass. Rather than mulching (which creates lines of finely chopped grass and eventual sward damage) I now mow and go back next day when it collects happily. Just two weeks ago, it needed wellies just to walk upon it. -- Tim Lamb |
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On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 19:55:33 +0000, David wrote:
On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:38:16 +0100, Andrew wrote: A month ago If I walked down the garden, water squirted out from under my wellies and up my legs. Today there are huge cracks everywhere and the ground has set like concrete. It needs some feeding and moss treatment but the only rain is forecast for tonight. Next week is going to be dry, but the box says don't apply immediately after cutting the grass. Does anyone else bother to wait for few days after cutting the grass before applying weed-n-feed ?. We'll have a hosepipe ban soon Andrew Given the lack of rain generally I would put the treatment on tonight to catch the rain tomorrow. Just done ours, and it was cut a couple of days ago. It may not be ideal but getting the treatment on and washed in seems the lesser of two evils. Bugger! Forecast changed over night and the rain has thinned out as it passed over and none has fallen here. Hosepipe it is then. :-( Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 06/04/2020 09:46, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Harry Bloomfield writes John Rumm formulated the question : Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had got as farÂ* as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago it was still far toÂ* soggy. I did my third run round with my little tractor/mower yesterday, the first cut at the beginning of last week when it was just dry enough to drive on. I don't collect the cuttings, otherwise it chokes the blades up, I just make the initial cuts in stages, longest then shorter. My rideon mower struggles with collecting wettish grass. Rather than mulching (which creates lines of finely chopped grass and eventual sward damage) I now mow and go back next day when it collects happily. Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Even if I fashioned a cowl of some description that replaced the collection bin, it still needs to blow the grass up the internal chute, and that is were it clogs. Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Tim Lamb used his keyboard to write :
My rideon mower struggles with collecting wettish grass. Rather than mulching (which creates lines of finely chopped grass and eventual sward damage) I now mow and go back next day when it collects happily. Rare is the time when mine will collect it, it would need a few weeks of drought. Even when not collecting, it (and its predecessor) have always choked up their duct heading to the bag at the rear. The duct goes over the back axle. I now drive it around with a stick, so when it does choke up, which is often - I can just stop it, jump off and poke it clear then carry on. |
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John Rumm was thinking very hard :
Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. They used to sell such a mulching adaptor for my model, no longer available, so I have had it in mind to make such a plug for a while. I just need a nice day and the will, to get a roundtuit. I have in mind just a sheet of thin steel cut to fill the gap, which bolts into place. It doesn't need to be the same thickness (5mm) as steel deck. |
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On 06/04/2020 15:11, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
John Rumm was thinking very hard : Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. They used to sell such a mulching adaptor for my model, no longer available, so I have had it in mind to make such a plug for a while. I just need a nice day and the will, to get a roundtuit. I have in mind just a sheet of thin steel cut to fill the gap, which bolts into place. It doesn't need to be the same thickness (5mm) as steel deck. On mine its a plastic plug on the end of a metal bar - you stuff it down the end of the collection chute right down to the deck, and then a rubber strap holds the end of the bar in place. The plug is shaped to match the profile of the inside of the deck - but I doubt that matters too much. The main problem I find with mulching is that to get good results (i.e. grass nicely mulched in) you need to mow more than once a week. In fact during fast growing times, the mower will probably not have the power to mulch a whole weeks worth of growth in one hit (13.5 HP motor, 36" deck) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Monday, 6 April 2020 14:37:25 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 06/04/2020 09:46, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Harry Bloomfield writes John Rumm formulated the question : Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had got as farÂ* as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago it was still far toÂ* soggy. I did my third run round with my little tractor/mower yesterday, the first cut at the beginning of last week when it was just dry enough to drive on. I don't collect the cuttings, otherwise it chokes the blades up, I just make the initial cuts in stages, longest then shorter. My rideon mower struggles with collecting wettish grass. Rather than mulching (which creates lines of finely chopped grass and eventual sward damage) I now mow and go back next day when it collects happily. Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Even if I fashioned a cowl of some description that replaced the collection bin, it still needs to blow the grass up the internal chute, and that is were it clogs. Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. Check the air holes in the collecting bin are not blocked so restricting the airflow |
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In message , John
Rumm writes On 06/04/2020 09:46, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Harry Bloomfield writes John Rumm formulated the question : Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had got as far* as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago it was still far to* soggy. I did my third run round with my little tractor/mower yesterday, the first cut at the beginning of last week when it was just dry enough to drive on. I don't collect the cuttings, otherwise it chokes the blades up, I just make the initial cuts in stages, longest then shorter. My rideon mower struggles with collecting wettish grass. Rather than mulching (which creates lines of finely chopped grass and eventual sward damage) I now mow and go back next day when it collects happily. Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Even if I fashioned a cowl of some description that replaced the collection bin, it still needs to blow the grass up the internal chute, and that is were it clogs. Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. Ah. When the chute blocks, I just keep mowing. Mulches a bit but doesn't create rows. Clear the chute and go back when it has dried a bit. -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , Harry Bloomfield
writes John Rumm was thinking very hard : Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. They used to sell such a mulching adaptor for my model, no longer available, so I have had it in mind to make such a plug for a while. I just need a nice day and the will, to get a roundtuit. I have in mind just a sheet of thin steel cut to fill the gap, which bolts into place. It doesn't need to be the same thickness (5mm) as steel deck. I might have a spare insert for a Jonsered (now Huskvarna?) -- Tim Lamb |
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 14:37:23 +0100, John Rumm wrote:
Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Is there not a way to remove the chute from the cutter deck to give the opening you require which would allow a 'cut and drop'? Most of the ride- on mowers I've seen which resemble your description (including mine)will, with a bit of jiggling around, allow the chute to be removed. On mine (Honda) there are either 2 or 4 (I can't remember which) self tapper like screws which allow the chute to be pulled out from the collector mounting plate. |
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On 06/04/2020 17:11, harry wrote:
On Monday, 6 April 2020 14:37:25 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote: On 06/04/2020 09:46, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Harry Bloomfield writes John Rumm formulated the question : Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had got as farÂ* as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago it was still far toÂ* soggy. I did my third run round with my little tractor/mower yesterday, the first cut at the beginning of last week when it was just dry enough to drive on. I don't collect the cuttings, otherwise it chokes the blades up, I just make the initial cuts in stages, longest then shorter. My rideon mower struggles with collecting wettish grass. Rather than mulching (which creates lines of finely chopped grass and eventual sward damage) I now mow and go back next day when it collects happily. Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Even if I fashioned a cowl of some description that replaced the collection bin, it still needs to blow the grass up the internal chute, and that is were it clogs. Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. Check the air holes in the collecting bin are not blocked so restricting the airflow As I said, it can clog in the chute even without the collection bin attached. (and the "bin" is in effect a 300L bag made from an open weave material suspended from the lid of the collector - so its more holes than anything else so long as you empty it before its completely full) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 06/04/2020 18:47, Bev wrote:
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 14:37:23 +0100, John Rumm wrote: Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Is there not a way to remove the chute from the cutter deck to give the opening you require which would allow a 'cut and drop'? Most of the ride- on mowers I've seen which resemble your description (including mine)will, with a bit of jiggling around, allow the chute to be removed. On mine (Honda) there are either 2 or 4 (I can't remember which) self tapper like screws which allow the chute to be pulled out from the collector mounting plate. The chute can be removed easily (and in fact you need to to fit the mulching attachment). However that still leaves the exit hole in the middle top of the deck (the blades contra rotate toward it), where it will then just spray the cuttings up into the drive train of of the mower. (Decks that are designed to cut and drop usually have an opening at the back of side of the enclosure in the same plane as the blades rotation). -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 06/04/2020 18:32, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John Rumm writes On 06/04/2020 09:46, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Harry Bloomfield writes John Rumm formulated the question : Yup same here - got the first cut done yesterday. The ground had gotÂ* as farÂ* as soft but firm enough to support the mower! A week ago itÂ* was still far toÂ* soggy. I did my third run round with my little tractor/mower yesterday, the first cut at the beginning of last week when it was just dry enough toÂ* drive on. I don't collect the cuttings, otherwise it chokes the bladesÂ* up, I just make the initial cuts in stages, longest then shorter. Â*My rideon mower struggles with collecting wettish grass. Â*Rather than mulching (which creates lines of finely chopped grass andÂ* eventual sward damage) I now mow and go back next day when it collectsÂ* happily. Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Even if I fashioned a cowl of some description that replaced the collection bin, it still needs to blow the grass up the internal chute, and that is were it clogs. Perhaps I need to modify the deck itself to make a hinged edge section, so you can open that, and then fit the mulching plug to block the ducted exit. Ah. When the chute blocks, I just keep mowing. Mulches a bit but doesn't create rows. Clear the chute and go back when it has dried a bit. I can do that to an extent, but if both wet and long there comes a point it will just stall. Having said all that, this is only usually a problem on the first cut of the season. Now I have it to a more reasonable length, the going gets much easier. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 23:49:38 +0100, John Rumm wrote:
On 06/04/2020 18:47, Bev wrote: On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 14:37:23 +0100, John Rumm wrote: Problem I have is the mower can collect or mulch, but does not have a deck with an open side or back, so it can't just cut and drop. Is there not a way to remove the chute from the cutter deck to give the opening you require which would allow a 'cut and drop'? Most of the ride- on mowers I've seen which resemble your description (including mine)will, with a bit of jiggling around, allow the chute to be removed. On mine (Honda) there are either 2 or 4 (I can't remember which) self tapper like screws which allow the chute to be pulled out from the collector mounting plate. The chute can be removed easily (and in fact you need to to fit the mulching attachment). However that still leaves the exit hole in the middle top of the deck (the blades contra rotate toward it), where it will then just spray the cuttings up into the drive train of of the mower. Ahh, a slightly different design to mine then as the chute enters lower towards the rear of the deck and removing it throws the grass more to the rear than upwards. |
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