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Securing a gate . . .
Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and
caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob |
Securing a gate . . .
On 13/02/20 21:49, RJH wrote:
Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob As well as dealing with securing the hex nuts, maybe consider something like this to offer another visible and effective deterrent: https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-security/halfords-wheel-clamp-lock-227910.html -- Jeff |
Securing a gate . . .
On Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:49:31 UTC, RJH wrote:
Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Screws |
Securing a gate . . .
RJH Wrote in message:
Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob Shear nuts & bolts? E.g. https://www.fastenright.com/products...rs/shear-bolts -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Securing a gate . . .
On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:30:30 GMT, "Jimk" wrote:
RJH Wrote in message: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob Shear nuts & bolts? E.g. https://www.fastenright.com/products...rs/shear-bolts Thanks - seen those, but they don't seem to supply retail, only via a web form. And I'm curious about the torque at which the head snaps off. My experience of bolting stuff to the brick of these houses hasn't been too promising - so if it does need to be tightened *tight* they might not work. Cheers, Rob |
Securing a gate . . .
On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:25:46 GMT, "
wrote: On Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:49:31 UTC, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Screws Thanks - drilling out the head of a large pozi screw would seem to be a crude but effective solution . . . Cheers, Rob |
Securing a gate . . .
RJH Wrote in message:
On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:30:30 GMT, "Jimk" wrote: RJH Wrote in message: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob Shear nuts & bolts? E.g. https://www.fastenright.com/products...rs/shear-bolts Thanks - seen those, but they don't seem to supply retail, only via a web form. And I'm curious about the torque at which the head snaps off. My experience of bolting stuff to the brick of these houses hasn't been too promising - so if it does need to be tightened *tight* they might not work. Cheers, Rob It was an e.g. .... GIYF -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Securing a gate . . .
On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:07:26 GMT, "Jeff Layman"
wrote: On 13/02/20 21:49, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob As well as dealing with securing the hex nuts, maybe consider something like this to offer another visible and effective deterrent: https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-security/halfords-wheel-clamp-lock-227910.html Yes, perhaps I should. Irony being my car is pretty much the least valuable on the street (2007 Audi S3) . . . -- Cheers, Rob |
Securing a gate . . .
On 13/02/2020 21:49, RJH wrote:
Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. This is a job for the uk.d-i-y angle grinder. Use it to take the corners off the nuts and bolts, so that a spanner can't grip them. You can use it again if you ever need to remove them. Alternatively, should you want to be able to use a spanner on them yourself, drill through one of the flats on the nuts and through the bits the bolts pass through. Tap the holes and fit pointed hex socket grub screws to grip the threads. -- Colin Bignell |
Securing a gate . . .
RJH wrote:
On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:25:46 GMT, " wrote: On Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:49:31 UTC, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Screws Thanks - drilling out the head of a large pozi screw would seem to be a crude but effective solution . . . Wonderful, until the inevitable time when *you* want to remove it. -- Chris Green · |
Securing a gate . . .
nightjar wrote:
On 13/02/2020 21:49, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. This is a job for the uk.d-i-y angle grinder. Use it to take the corners off the nuts and bolts, so that a spanner can't grip them. You can use it again if you ever need to remove them. So can anyone else. -- Chris Green · |
Securing a gate . . .
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 21:49:25 +0000 (UTC), RJH
wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob Loctite red on the threads? |
Securing a gate . . .
On 14/02/2020 11:17, Chris Green wrote:
RJH wrote: On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:25:46 GMT, " wrote: On Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:49:31 UTC, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Screws Thanks - drilling out the head of a large pozi screw would seem to be a crude but effective solution . . . Wonderful, until the inevitable time when *you* want to remove it. Then you can drill it out, on that rare occasion when you might have to. The crims won't bother to try anyway. If they want to get through it then they'll use brute force if they think that would do it. |
Securing a gate . . .
On 13/02/2020 22:45, RJH wrote:
On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:30:30 GMT, "Jimk" wrote: RJH Wrote in message: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob Shear nuts & bolts? E.g. https://www.fastenright.com/products...rs/shear-bolts Thanks - seen those, but they don't seem to supply retail, only via a web form. And I'm curious about the torque at which the head snaps off. My experience of bolting stuff to the brick of these houses hasn't been too promising - so if it does need to be tightened *tight* they might not work. Cheers, Rob Use bolts that need an allen key to tighten, then fill the hex recess with something that sets quite hard. |
Securing a gate . . .
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 21:49:25 +0000 (UTC), RJH wrote:
They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. I have a grate secured with Torx screws, a round head like the head of a coach bolt, only with a regular Torx recess. These came with small aluminum slugs that one is to hammer into the recess. I touched up the head with zinc paint, and the slug is not longer apparent. I had to remove the screw screw, and gently drilling out the aluminum middle, and then picking out the bits in the grooves is possible, given time, patience, and the knowledge of the ally slug. Thieves would likely have none of the above... Recessed hex would work just as well, I think. Thomas Prufer |
Securing a gate . . .
On 13/02/2020 21:49, RJH wrote:
Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob If the bad guys have a battery angle grinder then they can go through most things quite quickly (albeit noisily). I lost a padlock key recently and it took much less than a minute to cut through the staple. Could you use a different style of lock, rather than a padlock? Alternatively, shipping containers have a hardened steel cover over the lock, which is completely inside the cover - search for "lock box". |
Securing a gate . . .
On 14/02/2020 11:18, Chris Green wrote:
nightjar wrote: On 13/02/2020 21:49, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. This is a job for the uk.d-i-y angle grinder. Use it to take the corners off the nuts and bolts, so that a spanner can't grip them. You can use it again if you ever need to remove them. So can anyone else. Noisier than undoing them with a spanner though. -- Colin Bignell |
Securing a gate . . .
"Chris Green" wrote in message ... RJH wrote: On 13 Feb 2020 at 22:25:46 GMT, " wrote: On Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:49:31 UTC, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Screws Thanks - drilling out the head of a large pozi screw would seem to be a crude but effective solution . . . Wonderful, until the inevitable time when *you* want to remove it. Not hard to use a screw extractor. |
Securing a gate . . .
"Chris Green" wrote in message ... nightjar wrote: On 13/02/2020 21:49, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. This is a job for the uk.d-i-y angle grinder. Use it to take the corners off the nuts and bolts, so that a spanner can't grip them. You can use it again if you ever need to remove them. So can anyone else. But would attract considerable attention to themselves when doing that and there are clearly surveillance cameras there. |
More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:12:06 +1100, jon lopgel, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: Not hard to use a screw extractor. Certainly not as hard as making you driveling senile idiot shut up for good! -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:13:56 +1100, jon lopgel, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: But would attract considerable attention to themselves when doing that and there are clearly surveillance cameras there. Oh, ****! And this little thread was Rodent-free, so far! tsk -- Bill Wright to Rot Speed: "That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****." MID: |
Securing a gate . . .
wrote in message ... On 13/02/2020 21:49, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob If the bad guys have a battery angle grinder then they can go through most things quite quickly (albeit noisily). I lost a padlock key recently and it took much less than a minute to cut through the staple. Could you use a different style of lock, rather than a padlock? Alternatively, shipping containers have a hardened steel cover over the lock, which is completely inside the cover - search for "lock box". Yeah, our locked fire trail booms have the padlock inside a big steel cylinder so there is no way to use an angle grinder on the padlock and no one who wants to get thru one has to worry about any noise. |
Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:06:40 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Yeah, our locked fire trail This is a UK ng, in case you haven't noticed yet, you trolling senile Arsetralian cretin! -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
Securing a gate . . .
On Friday, 14 February 2020 13:36:39 UTC, wrote:
On 13/02/2020 21:49, RJH wrote: Having just had a neighbour's break-in (keys to car stolen, nothing else), and caught on camera several quite open casing-the-joint forays into our between the houses passageway (my Audi's next, apparently), we've just had a metal gate fitted. It's fine, quite substantial. However, the latch and hinges are fitted with easy to remove hex nuts (fixing the adjustable screw hinge) and bolts (holding the latch and hinge pins to the brick wall). I'd drop a spot of weld to the various bits if I had the kit and skill - but I don't. Any recommendations for a supplier and type of secure nuts and bolts? They don't have to be the last word in security - really, the padlockable latch isn't that secure. Cheers, Rob If the bad guys have a battery angle grinder then they can go through most things quite quickly (albeit noisily). I lost a padlock key recently and it took much less than a minute to cut through the staple. Could you use a different style of lock, rather than a padlock? Alternatively, shipping containers have a hardened steel cover over the lock, which is completely inside the cover - search for "lock box". Padlocks are often very easy to undo silently. Something better is called for if anything more than casual offputting security is wanted. NT |
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