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Has the sky fallen in yet?
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whisky-dave writes On Saturday, 1 February 2020 13:02:40 UTC, mm0fmf wrote: On 01/02/2020 01:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Surely* no businesses will be open tomorrow and te stock exchange will fall 50%..the BBC assured us it would.. Yesterday my wife's employer made everyone redundant and closed the factory. Production is being moved from Scotland to the sister plants in Poland/Czech Rep. The reason given is production will then be in the EU where most customers are located and supply will not be subject to duties once transition period ends. Isnlt that similar to why nissan may increse production in the UK because importing cars from the EU will cost more making nissan cheap so we'll be buying nissan rather than BMW or whatever. but we still have 10 10 years negotiations, but why it takes so long I just don't know. It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years. -- bert |
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bert wrote: It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years. Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement of all its member states. Could it be you just say the first thing that comes into your heads? -- *If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 05/02/2020 15:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , bert wrote: It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years. Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement of all its member states. Both aspects are present in different areas at different times. SteveW |
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On 05/02/2020 21:53, Steve Walker wrote:
On 05/02/2020 15:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* bert wrote: It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years. Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement of all its member states. Both aspects are present in different areas at different times. SteveW And at the same time. An oligarchy is not rule by a single person. But by a Cabal. Naturally they do not agree on anything other than the need to maintain the cabal. It is a commen misconception that the EU is there to govern Europe. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is, like most government, a self legalising protection racket, that buys who its needs to and coerces who it can, whose sole function is the protection and perpetuation of the lifestyle of its members. -- In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act. - George Orwell |
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On 06/02/2020 09:26, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 05/02/2020 21:53, Steve Walker wrote: On 05/02/2020 15:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* bert wrote: It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years. Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement of all its member states. Both aspects are present in different areas at different times. And at the same time. An oligarchy is not rule by a single person. But by a Cabal. Naturally they do not agree on anything other than the need to maintain the cabal. It is a commen misconception that the EU is there to govern Europe. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is, like most government, a self legalising protection racket, that buys who its needs to and coerces who it can, whose sole function is the protection and perpetuation of the lifestyle of its members. Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a trough. What will they do then, poor things? Grunt and grunt till someone gives them something to shut them up -- €œIt is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.€ €• Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV |
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Tim Streater wrote: Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a trough. What will they do then, poor things? I'm sure Nige will find some other suckers to bankroll him. -- *Proofread carefully to see if you any words out or mispeld something * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 09:26:43 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote: snip Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a trough. snip Oh, our government will go as well then? You seem to want / expect some sort of utopia, where people do just the right thing all the time for good reasons and no one is at all greedy? Let's test you with a little quandary. You employ an accountant and pay them £40k/pa. They save you £5M/pa, are you going to complain if they put a meal for their wife on their expenses whist out on a job themselves? Or pay a director of a charity £50k pa, and they bring in £500k from making contacts all over the country, do you begrudge them a company car? So, if you get rid of all the 'snouters' (as you accuse them of being), how do you know that any moneys saves directly by that might be completely outclassed by the money they make / save because of their actions? The answer of course is you don't actually have a f'in clue either way, it's just a little bee you have in your bonnet and you need it sorted no matter what it costs all of us. Cheers, T i m |
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On 06/02/2020 11:46, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 09:26:43 +0000, Tim Streater wrote: Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a trough. Or pay a director of a charity £50k pa, and they bring in £500k from making contacts all over the country, do you begrudge them a company car? Yes, it's not charity. Especially as the 'charity' probably doesn't actually benefit its supposed recipients, but rather 'lobbies' the government for tax money, or even just 'raises awareness' of a (probably political) issue. If you give money directly to an alkie at least you know what it's going on. -- Max Demian |
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message .. . In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 05/02/2020 21:53, Steve Walker wrote: On 05/02/2020 15:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , bert wrote: It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years. Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement of all its member states. Both aspects are present in different areas at different times. And at the same time. An oligarchy is not rule by a single person. But by a Cabal. Naturally they do not agree on anything other than the need to maintain the cabal. It is a commen misconception that the EU is there to govern Europe. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is, like most government, a self legalising protection racket, that buys who its needs to and coerces who it can, whose sole function is the protection and perpetuation of the lifestyle of its members. Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a trough. What will they do then, poor things? Do their snouting in their own country like UK MPs did recently. |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 02:32 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 02:32:58 +1100, jon lopgel, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: FLUSH the sleepless cantankerous ******'s latest troll**** 02:32??? LMAO -- Marland addressing senile Rodent's tall stories: "Do you really think people believe your stories you come up with to boost your self esteem." Message-ID: |
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 11:54:21 +0000, Max Demian
wrote: On 06/02/2020 11:46, T i m wrote: On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 09:26:43 +0000, Tim Streater wrote: Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a trough. Or pay a director of a charity £50k pa, and they bring in £500k from making contacts all over the country, do you begrudge them a company car? Yes, it's not charity. What? Especially as the 'charity' probably doesn't actually benefit its supposed recipients, but rather 'lobbies' the government for tax money, or even just 'raises awareness' of a (probably political) issue. Irrelevant to the point. If you give money directly to an alkie at least you know what it's going on. How much did you make last night? ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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Max Demian wrote: Yes, it's not charity. Especially as the 'charity' probably doesn't actually benefit its supposed recipients, but rather 'lobbies' the government for tax money, or even just 'raises awareness' of a (probably political) issue. If you give money directly to an alkie at least you know what it's going on. Excellent idea. Help him to kill himself. Gets rid of the problem. -- *Gun Control: Use both hands. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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