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On Saturday, 1 February 2020 13:02:40 UTC, mm0fmf wrote:
On 01/02/2020 01:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Surely* no businesses will be open tomorrow and te stock exchange will
fall 50%..the BBC assured us it would..


Yesterday my wife's employer made everyone redundant and closed the
factory. Production is being moved from Scotland to the sister plants in
Poland/Czech Rep. The reason given is production will then be in the EU
where most customers are located and supply will not be subject to
duties once transition period ends.


Isnlt that similar to why nissan may increse production in the UK
because importing cars from the EU will cost more making nissan cheap
so we'll be buying nissan rather than BMW or whatever.
but we still have 10 10 years negotiations, but why it takes so long I
just don't know.



It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one
trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out
their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they
have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes
on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years.
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It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one
trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out
their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they
have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes
on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years.


Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an
oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement of
all its member states. Could it be you just say the first thing that comes
into your heads?

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On 05/02/2020 15:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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bert wrote:
It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one
trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out
their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they
have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes
on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years.


Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an
oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement of
all its member states.


Both aspects are present in different areas at different times.

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Â*Â*Â* bert wrote:
It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each one
trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting out
their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one they
have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes
on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years.


Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an
oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the
agreement of
all its member states.


Both aspects are present in different areas at different times.

SteveW


And at the same time. An oligarchy is not rule by a single person.
But by a Cabal.

Naturally they do not agree on anything other than the need to maintain
the cabal.

It is a commen misconception that the EU is there to govern Europe.
Nothing could be further from the truth. It is, like most government, a
self legalising protection racket, that buys who its needs to and
coerces who it can, whose sole function is the protection and
perpetuation of the lifestyle of its members.



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On 06/02/2020 09:26, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
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On 05/02/2020 21:53, Steve Walker wrote:
On 05/02/2020 15:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* bert wrote:
It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each
one
trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting
out
their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one
they
have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes
on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years.

Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an
oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the
agreement of
all its member states.

Both aspects are present in different areas at different times.


And at the same time. An oligarchy is not rule by a single person.
But by a Cabal.

Naturally they do not agree on anything other than the need to
maintain the cabal.

It is a commen misconception that the EU is there to govern Europe.
Nothing could be further from the truth. It is, like most government,
a self legalising protection racket, that buys who its needs to and
coerces who it can, whose sole function is the protection and
perpetuation of the lifestyle of its members.


Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a
trough. What will they do then, poor things?

Grunt and grunt till someone gives them something to shut them up


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Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a
trough. What will they do then, poor things?


I'm sure Nige will find some other suckers to bankroll him.

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Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a
trough.


snip

Oh, our government will go as well then?

You seem to want / expect some sort of utopia, where people do just
the right thing all the time for good reasons and no one is at all
greedy?

Let's test you with a little quandary.

You employ an accountant and pay them £40k/pa. They save you £5M/pa,
are you going to complain if they put a meal for their wife on their
expenses whist out on a job themselves?

Or pay a director of a charity £50k pa, and they bring in £500k from
making contacts all over the country, do you begrudge them a company
car?

So, if you get rid of all the 'snouters' (as you accuse them of
being), how do you know that any moneys saves directly by that might
be completely outclassed by the money they make / save because of
their actions?

The answer of course is you don't actually have a f'in clue either
way, it's just a little bee you have in your bonnet and you need it
sorted no matter what it costs all of us.

Cheers, T i m

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On 06/02/2020 11:46, T i m wrote:
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Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a
trough.


Or pay a director of a charity £50k pa, and they bring in £500k from
making contacts all over the country, do you begrudge them a company
car?


Yes, it's not charity. Especially as the 'charity' probably doesn't
actually benefit its supposed recipients, but rather 'lobbies' the
government for tax money, or even just 'raises awareness' of a (probably
political) issue.

If you give money directly to an alkie at least you know what it's going on.

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In article , The Natural Philosopher
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On 05/02/2020 21:53, Steve Walker wrote:
On 05/02/2020 15:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
bert wrote:
It takes such along time for the EU to go round all 27 members each
one
trying to outdo the other with posturing over red lines and setting
out
their negotiating demands. Then when the other country refuses one
they
have to go all the way round again to agree the change. And so it goes
on ad nauseam - well for about 10 years.

Wish you leavers could make up your minds. One minute the EU is an
oligarchy. The next, it is slow to decide because it need the agreement
of
all its member states.

Both aspects are present in different areas at different times.


And at the same time. An oligarchy is not rule by a single person.
But by a Cabal.

Naturally they do not agree on anything other than the need to maintain
the cabal.

It is a commen misconception that the EU is there to govern Europe.
Nothing could be further from the truth. It is, like most government, a
self legalising protection racket, that buys who its needs to and coerces
who it can, whose sole function is the protection and perpetuation of the
lifestyle of its members.


Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a
trough. What will they do then, poor things?


Do their snouting in their own country like UK MPs did recently.

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On 06/02/2020 11:46, T i m wrote:
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Get rid of the EU, and there will be loads on snouters without a
trough.


Or pay a director of a charity £50k pa, and they bring in £500k from
making contacts all over the country, do you begrudge them a company
car?


Yes, it's not charity.


What?

Especially as the 'charity' probably doesn't
actually benefit its supposed recipients, but rather 'lobbies' the
government for tax money, or even just 'raises awareness' of a (probably
political) issue.


Irrelevant to the point.

If you give money directly to an alkie at least you know what it's going on.


How much did you make last night? ;-)

Cheers, T i m
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Yes, it's not charity. Especially as the 'charity' probably doesn't
actually benefit its supposed recipients, but rather 'lobbies' the
government for tax money, or even just 'raises awareness' of a (probably
political) issue.


If you give money directly to an alkie at least you know what it's going
on.


Excellent idea. Help him to kill himself. Gets rid of the problem.

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