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Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back flush
with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of new board,
and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides to form a frame
to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
....its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.

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On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back flush
with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of new board,
and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides to form a frame
to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.


This is chipboard, right? Use 18mm, build the support up beneath it by
1.4mm with gap filling glue, like Gripfill, where necessary.

Or, alternatively use 18mm and use a self levelling compound on top,
when you are done.

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On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back flush
with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of new board,
and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides to form a frame
to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.


Can you salvage some of the weyroc from under the wardrobe?
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On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back flush
with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of new board,
and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides to form a frame
to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.

I am sure 19mm chipboard is made..mmm...no, but 18mm is best option
with 1.5mm shims..glue it in




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On 02/02/2020 11:58, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Must be pretty crappy stuff if the weight of a bed and person make holes in
the surface.
Brian


Perhaps rick's parent were very vigorous!
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On Sunday, 2 February 2020 11:48:43 UTC, GB wrote:
Can you salvage some of the weyroc from under the wardrobe?


You'd be up all night flushing the mattress down the toilet.

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On 02/02/2020 11:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back
flush with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of new
board, and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides to
form a frame to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.

I am sure 19mm chipboard is made..mmm...no, butÂ* 18mm is best option
with 1.5mm shims..glue it in




Old venetian blind slats make good shims for this sort of job.
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On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back flush
with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of new board,
and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides to form a frame
to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.


Flooring had gone metric by 1980 though, surely. Are the panels
8 by 2 t&G or full size panels ?.

My house was built in 1976 and has 18mm chipboard flooring, using
8 by 2 t&g panels.

Weyroc is just a trade name?? and today they make a moisture
resistant chipboard flooring that is claimed to be suitable
for building during bad weather.

How far apart are the joists ?. Normally 450 mm centres
can use 18mm chipboard (which I have) but if joists are at
600mm then 22mm chipboard must be used.



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Chipboard was probably 18mm but has got damp somehow hence the expansion in thickness, might also explain how the bed has made a hole in it. Our first house was a 1975 build with 8 x 4 chipboard sheets for flooring they were 18mm, thicknessing was obvious in areas where water could ingress such as external doorways.

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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

Must be pretty crappy stuff if the weight of a bed and person make holes
in the surface.


But with two of the most morbidly obese ****ing on it...

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On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... don't
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back flush
with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of new board,
and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides to form a frame
to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...it's 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4" sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4" sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.


This is chipboard, right? Use 18mm, build the support up beneath it by
1.4mm with gap filling glue, like Gripfill, where necessary.

Or, alternatively use 18mm and use a self levelling compound on top,
when you are done.



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Must be pretty crappy stuff if the weight of a bed and person make holes
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the surface.
Brian


Perhaps rick's parent were very vigorous!


More likely morbidly obese.

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On 02/02/2020 13:38, newshound wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back
flush with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of
new board, and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides
to form a frame to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.

I am sure 19mm chipboard is made..mmm...no, butÂ* 18mm is best option
with 1.5mm shims..glue it in




Old venetian blind slats make good shims for this sort of job.


Nice:-) It always seems to be lino that was used when I rip up
mismatching boards at houses.

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Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through).... dont
really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted wardrobes
over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back
flush with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of
new board, and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides
to form a frame to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going to
sit flush without a lot of extra work.


These are intended for filling access holes:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402046539549

but you need to cut a rebate to make them sit flush.

I've used metal conduit box covers when I've wanted smaller access holes
- you can make the rebate for them with a 64mm holesaw and a chisel.


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FLUSH troll****

02:34??? LOL So when will be bedtime for you THIS night, you clinically
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FLUSH the clinically insane senile pest's usual troll****

02:30??? LOL So, do you know already when you'll go to bed after your
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On 02/02/2020 18:29, newshound wrote:
On 02/02/2020 15:51, ARW wrote:
On 02/02/2020 13:38, newshound wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ...
parents house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through)....
dont really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted
wardrobes over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back
flush with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of
new board, and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides
to form a frame to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going
to sit flush without a lot of extra work.

I am sure 19mm chipboard is made..mmm...no, butÂ* 18mm is best option
with 1.5mm shims..glue it in




Old venetian blind slats make good shims for this sort of job.


Nice:-) It always seems to be lino that was used when I rip up
mismatching boards at houses.

Ah yes, I remember lino.

I still have a good collection of slats from dead wooden venetian
blinds, but I have used up all of my metal ones. Aluminium drinks cans
are also useful for fine adjustments (see "Zen and the art of motorcycle
maintenance).


In the good old days you could just use a witch's tit to make up the
difference in the floorboards.

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On 02/02/2020 15:51, ARW wrote:
On 02/02/2020 13:38, newshound wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ... parents
house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through)....
dont really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted
wardrobes over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back
flush with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of
new board, and screw some supports round underside of other 3 sides
to form a frame to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going
to sit flush without a lot of extra work.

I am sure 19mm chipboard is made..mmm...no, butÂ* 18mm is best option
with 1.5mm shims..glue it in




Old venetian blind slats make good shims for this sort of job.


Nice:-) It always seems to be lino that was used when I rip up
mismatching boards at houses.


Sections of DPC, folded over to double thickness is a convenient
way to pack out slight levelling problems.
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In the good old days you could just use a witch's tit to make up the
difference in the floorboards.


Vegans won't let you use a gnat's tadger any more.

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On 02/02/2020 18:29, newshound wrote:
On 02/02/2020 15:51, ARW wrote:
On 02/02/2020 13:38, newshound wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:23, rick wrote:
Have a Weyroc floor fitted over wood joists in a bedroom ...
parents house built circa 1980

Floor is damaged in 2 places (legs of bed had gone through)....
dont really want to re-sheet whole floor, particularly as fitted
wardrobes over part of the floor.

initially thought it would be easy ... make a square cut-out back
flush with joist and fix a bearer timber on joist, to hold edge of
new board, and screw some supports round underside of other 3
sides to form a frame to fit new piece in.

This plan stuttered today when I measured thickness of the Weyroc
...its 19.4mm. So presumably an imperial 3/4€ sheet.

Anybody know if you can still get 3/4€ sheet ....
If not can you get 20mm as if I have to but 22mm that is not going
to sit flush without a lot of extra work.

I am sure 19mm chipboard is made..mmm...no, butÂ* 18mm is best
option with 1.5mm shims..glue it in




Old venetian blind slats make good shims for this sort of job.

Nice:-) It always seems to be lino that was used when I rip up
mismatching boards at houses.

Ah yes, I remember lino.

I still have a good collection of slats from dead wooden venetian
blinds, but I have used up all of my metal ones. Aluminium drinks cans
are also useful for fine adjustments (see "Zen and the art of
motorcycle maintenance).


In the good old days you could just use a witch's tit to make up the
difference in the floorboards.

A gnat's cock, Shirley?


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On 04/02/2020 17:39, rick wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:58, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Must be pretty crappy stuff if the weight of a bed and person make
holes in
the surface.
Â* Brian



Can't argue with that ..Â* but it is now 40 yr old chipboard


Mine is 44 years old, and apart from slight sagging between the
18inch-spaced joists, is fine.

The only place where a hole had been made was where a
'plumber' made an access hole to fix an air lock in the
28 mm gravity feed to the tank. Looks like he used a club
hammer to smash a hole and then propped up the shattered
bits with a couple of lengths of 2x1 and put the carpet back down.
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On 05/02/2020 13:28, Andrew wrote:
On 04/02/2020 17:39, rick wrote:
On 02/02/2020 11:58, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Must be pretty crappy stuff if the weight of a bed and person make
holes in
the surface.
Â* Brian



Can't argue with that ..Â* but it is now 40 yr old chipboard


Mine is 44 years old, and apart from slight sagging between the
18inch-spaced joists, is fine.

The only place where a hole had been made was where a
'plumber' made an access hole to fix an air lock in the
28 mm gravity feed to the tank. Looks like he used a club
hammer to smash a hole and then propped up the shattered
bits with a couple of lengths of 2x1 and put the carpet back down.



Did the repair with 18mm chipboard .. put a layer of 1mm foam underlay
over depressed sections before laying new carpet underlay.

Found the 2 broken boards had a reason instead of the T&G join (board
edge being on centre lie of joist it was about 3 mm off the edge of
joist - so unsupported. Failed at those points.
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