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So the internet radio has arrived!
How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Something I have not understood. -- Tim Lamb |
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On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:19:43 UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. The "internet radio" almost certainly needs wifi The USB is probably for playing sound files from a memory stick. The radio probably doesn't have firmware/drivers to use a USB-ethernet adapter. If you don't have wifi you'll need to set up an access point wired to your router. Owain |
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On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote:
So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , writes On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:19:43 UTC, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. The "internet radio" almost certainly needs wifi The USB is probably for playing sound files from a memory stick. The radio probably doesn't have firmware/drivers to use a USB-ethernet adapter. If you don't have wifi you'll need to set up an access point wired to your router. wifi is OK but I am reasonably sure it can be hard wired. Without a network cable socket I wouldnt bet on it... Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Tim Lamb wrote:
wifi is OK but I am reasonably sure it can be hard wired. You might want to tell us what model it is, otherwise we're just guessing. Theo |
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On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! Â*How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Â*Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy. |
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writes Tim Lamb wrote: wifi is OK but I am reasonably sure it can be hard wired. You might want to tell us what model it is, otherwise we're just guessing. Yes. Sorry. I hadn't grasped that there was more to this than simple wiring. Auna Connect 100 (model 10029865) -- Tim Lamb |
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writes On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! *How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. *Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I doubt any of our TVs are that clever:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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Tim Lamb wrote:
DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I'd have though DLNA in this case would be more a case of the radio being able to "see" MP3 files served from a suitably configured PC, e.g https://pureinfotech.com/turn-pc-dlna-media-server-windows-10 |
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Are thes dongles not supposed to work via software on your computer?
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Something I have not understood. -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , "Brian Gaff (Sofa 2)"
writes Are thes dongles not supposed to work via software on your computer? There have been hints Brian. I'm about to plug it in and get my brain round the wifi instructions! -- Tim Lamb |
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Well I'm assuming then that you either have to give it specific addresses of
streams to play or operate it from a virtual front end on another device in some way. Seems a little crude when so many of the voice assistants can do this via a link to base. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! -- Tim Lamb |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote
Are thes dongles not supposed to work via software on your computer? Only for specifying what you want to listen to etc. Not for how it gets access to the internet, "Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Something I have not understood. -- Tim Lamb |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote
Why did you not get an alexa, its pretty simple to use via wifi if you have a mobile or tablet handy. Its actually an echo, alexa is the bimbo inside it. "Tim+" wrote in message ... Tim Lamb wrote: In message , writes On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:19:43 UTC, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. The "internet radio" almost certainly needs wifi The USB is probably for playing sound files from a memory stick. The radio probably doesn't have firmware/drivers to use a USB-ethernet adapter. If you don't have wifi you'll need to set up an access point wired to your router. wifi is OK but I am reasonably sure it can be hard wired. Without a network cable socket I wouldn't bet on it... Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 28/01/2020 20:51, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Well I'm assuming then that you either have to give it specific addresses of streams to play or operate it from a virtual front end on another device in some way. Seems a little crude when so many of the voice assistants can do this via a link to base. Devices should spot DLNA servers on the network and offer to use them. My music player can see my home server or any of the PCs that have the DLNA service turned on - as can my Blue-Ray player's media player. SteveW |
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Tim Lamb wrote:
Yes. Sorry. I hadn't grasped that there was more to this than simple wiring. Auna Connect 100 (model 10029865) That appears to use the Frontier Silicon platform. It is possible there might be a driver in it for a USB-ethernet dongle, but probably not. Theo |
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On Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:47:29 UTC, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Why did you not get an alexa, its pretty simple to use via wifi if you have a mobile or tablet handy. Brian They're restricted in what they'll play though, they're not really internet radios. |
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On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! Â*How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Â*Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! I just had a quick look through the manual... So it seems you have power in, plus line level audio in (for feeding in an external analogue signal for playback using the internal amp and speakers), line out for feeding the output to an external amp etc. The USB seems to be for reading a mass storage device containing music files for playback. There is no direct wired ethernet capability. The UPNP facility appears to make the device look like a device which can be streamed to by computers on the network. The DLNA facility allows the "radio" to reach out and access things being shared on a network by a DLNA server should you have one running. While both are nice to have, you can ignore them if all you want to do is have the radio play internet radio. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 28/01/2020 18:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! Â*How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Â*Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I get the impression that the radio is only a DLNA client not a server - so while a smart TV may well be able to see the same server and content as the radio, it will do this independently of the radio, and not be able to stream content directly from the radio. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Tim Lamb wrote:
So the internet radio has arrived! How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Something I have not understood. Going by comments on various discussion groups, most (if not all) internet radios seem to run a skinny version of Linux. You could try plugging on of the USB / LAN adaptors which claims to be Linux compatible into the USB socket and do a reset. Why a reset? I suspect they do minimal HW scanning at power up to save time and it may not be detected otherwise. Having said that, if you have decent Wi-fi coverage in your house etc, the bandwidth isnt high. I run a mixed wired / Wi-fi network and try to put as many things on wired connections as possible but I still dont use the (provided) network connectors on our iStream 94s. |
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In message , "Brian Gaff (Sofa 2)"
writes Why did you not get an alexa, its pretty simple to use via wifi if you have a mobile or tablet handy. We have one. Switched off the moment the grandchildren leave! Trump worries about China and security, I worry about US companies. -- Tim Lamb |
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Rumm writes On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! *How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. *Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! I just had a quick look through the manual... So it seems you have power in, plus line level audio in (for feeding in an external analogue signal for playback using the internal amp and speakers), line out for feeding the output to an external amp etc. The USB seems to be for reading a mass storage device containing music files for playback. There is no direct wired ethernet capability. The UPNP facility appears to make the device look like a device which can be streamed to by computers on the network. The DLNA facility allows the "radio" to reach out and access things being shared on a network by a DLNA server should you have one running. While both are nice to have, you can ignore them if all you want to do is have the radio play internet radio. OK John. That confirms what has been suggested. My missreading the blurb. Not the simplest device to set up and I have only bothered with UK stations but if you want to tune to a Jazz broadcast from Brazil, the facility is there. For such a small, unit the sound output is fine to my aged ears:-) Luckily my wife only listens to R4 so I don't have training problems:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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On 28/01/2020 19:48, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Lamb wrote: DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I'd have though DLNA in this case would be more a case of the radio being able to "see" MP3 files served from a suitably configured PC, e.g https://pureinfotech.com/turn-pc-dlna-media-server-windows-10 Ah, yes, you may well be right. -- The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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On 29/01/2020 01:33, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/01/2020 18:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! Â*How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Â*Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I get the impression that the radio is only a DLNA client not a server - so while a smart TV may well be able to see the same server and content as the radio, it will do this independently of the radio, and not be able to stream content directly from the radio. Yes, I suspect I got that wrong. Rather nice thing to have. Trouble is, most DLNA clients only play MP3 and Flac or wav is better quality -- The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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On 29/01/2020 10:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/01/2020 01:33, John Rumm wrote: On 28/01/2020 18:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! Â*How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Â*Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I get the impression that the radio is only a DLNA client not a server - so while a smart TV may well be able to see the same server and content as the radio, it will do this independently of the radio, and not be able to stream content directly from the radio. Yes, I suspect I got that wrong. Rather nice thing to have. Trouble is, most DLNA clients only play MP3 and Flac or wav is better quality The Panny 250 PVR claims to play Flacs over DLNA - https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...-hwt250eb.html "DLNA as a client MPEG, MP4, AVCHD, Xvid, MKV, JPEG, AAC, Dolby Digital, FLAC, LPCM, MP3, Vorbis, WMA, WAV as a server MPEG, AVCHD, JPEG" Someone here has one, can't remember who |
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On 29/01/2020 12:01, Andrew wrote:
On 29/01/2020 10:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/01/2020 01:33, John Rumm wrote: On 28/01/2020 18:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! Â*How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Â*Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I get the impression that the radio is only a DLNA client not a server - so while a smart TV may well be able to see the same server and content as the radio, it will do this independently of the radio, and not be able to stream content directly from the radio. Yes, I suspect I got that wrong. Rather nice thing to have. Trouble is, most DLNA clients only play MP3 and Flac or wav is better quality The Panny 250 PVR claims to play Flacs over DLNA - https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...-hwt250eb.html "DLNA as a clientÂ*Â*Â*Â* MPEG, MP4, AVCHD, Xvid, MKV, JPEG, AAC, Dolby Digital, FLAC, LPCM, MP3, Vorbis, WMA, WAV as a serverÂ*Â*Â*Â* MPEG, AVCHD, JPEG" Someone here has one, can't remember who My panasonic telly doesn't.:( Which is a shame because I put a nice amp and speakers on it -- To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote. |
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On 29/01/2020 12:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/01/2020 12:01, Andrew wrote: On 29/01/2020 10:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/01/2020 01:33, John Rumm wrote: On 28/01/2020 18:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/01/2020 16:03, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Martin Brown writes On 28/01/2020 15:19, Tim Lamb wrote: So the internet radio has arrived! Â*How do I connect? Router sockets are cat 6 and radio input is usb. Whilst google finds zillions of cables, this particular mix does not seem to feature. Â*Something I have not understood. Depends on the internet radio. My tuner will accept cabled ethernet or a wifi connection and either will be plenty fast enough for audio. A portable radio tends to sit more happily on wifi. You should be able to follow the simple setup instruction card that comes with it. Yes. wifi instructions clear enough. Just out of the cardboard and checking to see if anything else needed:-) The manual gives set up instructions for UPnP and DLNA functions which could easily be Greek to the uninformed! DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I get the impression that the radio is only a DLNA client not a server - so while a smart TV may well be able to see the same server and content as the radio, it will do this independently of the radio, and not be able to stream content directly from the radio. Yes, I suspect I got that wrong. Rather nice thing to have. Trouble is, most DLNA clients only play MP3 and Flac or wav is better quality The Panny 250 PVR claims to play Flacs over DLNA - https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...-hwt250eb.html "DLNA as a clientÂ*Â*Â*Â* MPEG, MP4, AVCHD, Xvid, MKV, JPEG, AAC, Dolby Digital, FLAC, LPCM, MP3, Vorbis, WMA, WAV as a serverÂ*Â*Â*Â* MPEG, AVCHD, JPEG" Someone here has one, can't remember who My panasonic telly doesn't.:( Which is a shame because I put a nice amp and speakers on it You might find you can get the DLNA server to transcode in real time, so for example allowing FLAC files to be delivered in high bit rate MP3 for that particular client. While not perfect, MP3 at = 320Kbps is "ok". -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 28/01/2020 19:48, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Lamb wrote: DLNA means smart TVS should see it and stream what its playing I'd have though DLNA in this case would be more a case of the radio being able to "see" MP3 files served from a suitably configured PC, e.g https://pureinfotech.com/turn-pc-dlna-media-server-windows-10 Or NAS. -- Michael Chare |
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