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Dominique Coreos January 9th 20 11:21 PM

Boiler Problem
 
hi everyone,

Our boiler (worcester greenslave oil-fired) has developed a fault.
Often when we come back inside after having been away for a few hours,
the boiler will no longer be circulating hot water through the
radiators and the house is cold. There's no sound of the pump running
either, although the usual pilot lights are on as if nothing is
wrong.
We've discovered by accident that if we switch the boiler off, wait
one minute and turn it on again, the problem goes away and the pump
fires up again. But then some hours later, the problem repeats itself.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

thanks,
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Brian Reay[_6_] January 9th 20 11:54 PM

Boiler Problem
 
Dominique Coreos wrote:
hi everyone,

Our boiler (worcester greenslave oil-fired) has developed a fault.
Often when we come back inside after having been away for a few hours,
the boiler will no longer be circulating hot water through the
radiators and the house is cold. There's no sound of the pump running
either, although the usual pilot lights are on as if nothing is
wrong.
We've discovered by accident that if we switch the boiler off, wait
one minute and turn it on again, the problem goes away and the pump
fires up again. But then some hours later, the problem repeats itself.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

thanks,


I suspect there could be a number of causes but, based on what youve
posted- especially that cycling the power seems to reset things- maybe the
boiler is overheating due to a lack of flow in the system. This could be
due to air in the system or a problem with the pump. Im assuming it isnt
a sealed/pressurised system- if it is, have you checked it is up to
pressure? If it isnt, top it up.




John Rumm January 10th 20 06:32 PM

Boiler Problem
 
On 09/01/2020 23:21, Dominique Coreos wrote:
hi everyone,

Our boiler (worcester greenslave oil-fired) has developed a fault.
Often when we come back inside after having been away for a few hours,
the boiler will no longer be circulating hot water through the
radiators and the house is cold. There's no sound of the pump running
either, although the usual pilot lights are on as if nothing is
wrong.
We've discovered by accident that if we switch the boiler off, wait
one minute and turn it on again, the problem goes away and the pump
fires up again. But then some hours later, the problem repeats itself.

Any ideas what could be wrong?


You will need to trace the call for heat through each stage, and see
where its going wrong.

Do you know what kind of system it is (i.e. what kind of valves are
there, programmer, thermostat etc)?

Start with some good diagrams of the typical systems:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...ols_and_Zoning


On a typical Y plan system (one three port valve sharing the boiler flow
between rads and hot water cylinder), you would start by looking at the
call for heat signal out of the programmer (using a multimeter to look
for a voltage on the wire).

If it is present and getting to the thermostat, then check the output of
the stat changes as you wind the temp up and down. If its live, look for
a demand to the into the three port valve's call for heat. Check you can
hear the valve move if you wind the stat up and down. Then check the
output from the microswitch on the valve. If that is there then Check
the call for heat at the pump and the input to the boiler (assuming the
pump and boiler are wired in parallel - some boilers will control the
pump themselves).

At each stage, not getting the expected output can signify a component
failure. So no output from the programmer, could be a programmer fault,
none from the stat a stat fault, none from the microswitch on the valve,
a valve fault (say sticking, not moving full travel), or a switch fault.
Pump getting power and not running, a stuck pump. Boiler getting a call
for heat but not firing a boiler fault or its in a lockout state.



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John.

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Cynic[_2_] January 10th 20 08:30 PM

Boiler Problem
 
That model of boiler could have different options of burner and the particular ignition sequence control varies too. If you could post a few photos to a hosting site with a link here it would be immensely helpful.
You mention "pilot lights" which are actually indicators. If you have the installation and service booklet there should be a means of identifying what they are. Most sequence controls require manual resetting by pressing a button on the control box but there are exceptions which reset on power down.
It's common for the cable to the burner to comprise live and neutral, sometimes a lockout indicator feed and occasionally other cores which control fan run on timer to purge the combustion chamber.


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