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T i m December 18th 19 01:36 PM

Suspended IR heating?
 
Yo,

Has anyone here any practical experience with suspended IR (electric)
heating, as you often find in commercial settings?

A friend works in a large workshop area (probably 40' x 40') with a
low ceiling half (under a mezzanine floor) and the other half goes up
to the (steel) roof. Little or no insulation anywhere (and no chance
of fitting any) so I was thinking IR 'person' heating might be the
only viable solution above the bigger open area, really to just make
it more comfortable to work in there, rather than make it warm?

This was solution was considered after going into some of the big
d-i-y sheds and sensing heat on my head and when looking for the
source, seeing the long radiant heaters some 30' above me!

Mind you, we can feel the IR radiation from the sun and that's ~90
million miles away! ;-)

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?

Cheers, T i m

John Rumm December 18th 19 01:55 PM

Suspended IR heating?
 
On 18/12/2019 13:36, T i m wrote:
Yo,

Has anyone here any practical experience with suspended IR (electric)
heating, as you often find in commercial settings?

A friend works in a large workshop area (probably 40' x 40') with a
low ceiling half (under a mezzanine floor) and the other half goes up
to the (steel) roof. Little or no insulation anywhere (and no chance
of fitting any) so I was thinking IR 'person' heating might be the
only viable solution above the bigger open area, really to just make
it more comfortable to work in there, rather than make it warm?

This was solution was considered after going into some of the big
d-i-y sheds and sensing heat on my head and when looking for the
source, seeing the long radiant heaters some 30' above me!

Mind you, we can feel the IR radiation from the sun and that's ~90
million miles away! ;-)

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?


IIUC many of the commercial ones you see in shops are actually gas
powered...


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Cheers,

John.

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newshound December 18th 19 05:45 PM

Suspended IR heating?
 
On 18/12/2019 13:36, T i m wrote:
Yo,

Has anyone here any practical experience with suspended IR (electric)
heating, as you often find in commercial settings?

A friend works in a large workshop area (probably 40' x 40') with a
low ceiling half (under a mezzanine floor) and the other half goes up
to the (steel) roof. Little or no insulation anywhere (and no chance
of fitting any) so I was thinking IR 'person' heating might be the
only viable solution above the bigger open area, really to just make
it more comfortable to work in there, rather than make it warm?

This was solution was considered after going into some of the big
d-i-y sheds and sensing heat on my head and when looking for the
source, seeing the long radiant heaters some 30' above me!

Mind you, we can feel the IR radiation from the sun and that's ~90
million miles away! ;-)

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?

Cheers, T i m

Can't offer any specific advice other than to confirm I've had good
experiences with them in industrial workshops. Years ago a mate of mine
put them in a lab that he managed and they used a fraction of the power
that (say) fan heaters would have needed.

As an aside, my "local" has covered over half its patio with
polycarbonate for the smokers, and they have what I think of as
"bathroom" type radiant heaters on timers. They work well.

[email protected] December 18th 19 11:26 PM

Suspended IR heating?
 
On Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:36:12 UTC, T i m wrote:
Yo,

Has anyone here any practical experience with suspended IR (electric)
heating, as you often find in commercial settings?

A friend works in a large workshop area (probably 40' x 40') with a
low ceiling half (under a mezzanine floor) and the other half goes up
to the (steel) roof. Little or no insulation anywhere (and no chance
of fitting any) so I was thinking IR 'person' heating might be the
only viable solution above the bigger open area, really to just make
it more comfortable to work in there, rather than make it warm?

This was solution was considered after going into some of the big
d-i-y sheds and sensing heat on my head and when looking for the
source, seeing the long radiant heaters some 30' above me!

Mind you, we can feel the IR radiation from the sun and that's ~90
million miles away! ;-)

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?

Cheers, T i m


standard stuff where heating the space is unworkable. Gas is of course several times cheaper. Working under that isn't comfortable, but it beats no heat by far.


NT

T i m December 19th 19 12:15 AM

Suspended IR heating?
 
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:45:06 +0000, newshound
wrote:

snip

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?


Can't offer any specific advice other than to confirm I've had good
experiences with them in industrial workshops.


Gdgd.

Years ago a mate of mine
put them in a lab that he managed and they used a fraction of the power
that (say) fan heaters would have needed.


That's the thought.

As an aside, my "local" has covered over half its patio with
polycarbonate for the smokers, and they have what I think of as
"bathroom" type radiant heaters on timers. They work well.


I've seen that in a pub round here, they had four of them under one of
those big umbrellas and a push timer thing to spark them up. It kept
the smokers busy pressing the button every couple of minutes. ;-)


I have a floor standing / pedestal type 3kw radiant heater in my
workshop that I can move / point where I was working and generally
only need it on (1kw) till I've started working and warmed up a bit
then I turn it off. ;-)

The fan heater would have to be on 3kw, makes a lot of noise and you
can't really feel it less it's on for quite a while.

I just hadn't tried one of the pendant type, (like I've seen used in
chicken sheds and the like), but see they can be had quite cheaply so
could be worth an experiment.

Cheers, T i m

T i m December 19th 19 12:22 AM

Suspended IR heating?
 
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 15:26:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:36:12 UTC, T i m wrote:
Yo,

Has anyone here any practical experience with suspended IR (electric)
heating, as you often find in commercial settings?

A friend works in a large workshop area (probably 40' x 40') with a
low ceiling half (under a mezzanine floor) and the other half goes up
to the (steel) roof. Little or no insulation anywhere (and no chance
of fitting any) so I was thinking IR 'person' heating might be the
only viable solution above the bigger open area, really to just make
it more comfortable to work in there, rather than make it warm?

This was solution was considered after going into some of the big
d-i-y sheds and sensing heat on my head and when looking for the
source, seeing the long radiant heaters some 30' above me!

Mind you, we can feel the IR radiation from the sun and that's ~90
million miles away! ;-)

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?

Cheers, T i m


standard stuff where heating the space is unworkable.


Do you mean IR heating in general or overhead specifically?

Do the lower level flat IR panels radiate as well and the ones that
actually glow red or are they more like convection heaters?

Gas is of course several times cheaper.


Of course but not if you have to have it installed in the first place
and the electricity usage fairly low (people not in the workshop 8
hours a day etc).

Working under that isn't comfortable, but it beats no heat by far.


I guess that's the trick, getting the warmth down near the floor but
without being too hot on yer head.

Maybe 'several' smaller units might be better than one big one in that
regard?

Cheers, T i m

T i m December 19th 19 12:23 AM

Suspended IR heating?
 
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 13:55:30 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

snip

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?


IIUC many of the commercial ones you see in shops are actually gas
powered...


Yup. Same principal re the heating though (when gas isn't an option).

Cheers, T i m

[email protected] December 19th 19 03:08 AM

Suspended IR heating?
 
On Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:22:15 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 15:26:01 -0800 (PST), tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:36:12 UTC, T i m wrote:
Yo,

Has anyone here any practical experience with suspended IR (electric)
heating, as you often find in commercial settings?

A friend works in a large workshop area (probably 40' x 40') with a
low ceiling half (under a mezzanine floor) and the other half goes up
to the (steel) roof. Little or no insulation anywhere (and no chance
of fitting any) so I was thinking IR 'person' heating might be the
only viable solution above the bigger open area, really to just make
it more comfortable to work in there, rather than make it warm?

This was solution was considered after going into some of the big
d-i-y sheds and sensing heat on my head and when looking for the
source, seeing the long radiant heaters some 30' above me!

Mind you, we can feel the IR radiation from the sun and that's ~90
million miles away! ;-)

So, can anyone recommend it as a solution for this sort of role and
suggest any specific heaters / suppliers please?

Cheers, T i m


standard stuff where heating the space is unworkable.


Do you mean IR heating in general or overhead specifically?


IR. Which is usually placed overhead in work spaces.

Do the lower level flat IR panels radiate as well and the ones that
actually glow red or are they more like convection heaters?


IR radiation comes from high temp emitters. Dark panels won't do it.

Gas is of course several times cheaper.


Of course but not if you have to have it installed in the first place
and the electricity usage fairly low (people not in the workshop 8
hours a day etc).

Working under that isn't comfortable, but it beats no heat by far.


I guess that's the trick, getting the warmth down near the floor but
without being too hot on yer head.


that's where overhead IR heating fails. Cold feet & burnt head. But it sure beats no heat.

Maybe 'several' smaller units might be better than one big one in that
regard?

Cheers, T i m


Yes. Maybe the OP could buy a pile of filament lamps.


NT


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