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On 08/12/2019 21:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Andrew wrote:

Stand by for 'charger rage' as people fight over charging
stations on the motorways and main roads like the A1 during
freezing fog


I gather the queues at the tesla superchargers were impressive for
thanksgiving weekend ...


Giving thanks I own a diesel.
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It's a FIAT Scudo if that helps.


Spontaneously fell apart?


No, but the drivers door check strap fell apart yesterday.

It's just doing it in stages then.
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1 Turned all error messages into Italian
2 Locked itself up with you on the inside and refused to let you out till
you paid 2000 Quid in bitcoins
3 disabled everything completely.....
Well..
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It's a FIAT Scudo if that helps.


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Yes they got a cherry picker stuck in a council 'landscaped' area trying to
remove a cct from a pole. The vehicle they sent to pull it out then managed
to break the drain cover on the walkway they used to do the tow, resulting
in severe damage to the towing vehicles underside and exhaust. Why do they
use plastic for drain covers on footways these days?
The next vehicle they sent managed, with some help from the armstrong
method to get the cherry picker out, but like you say, the owners had a
lot of work to do to restore the damaged drain and grassy knoll and lawn.
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Or maybe the time I got it stuck in a school playing field trying to
pull out the cherry picker I had got stuck in the school playing field
(that cost the firm a few quid for the gardener to put right)


That happened here the other week. A car and a van, not a cherrypicker.

Someone turned up with a Nissan Effoff and a very long towing strap to
stay on dry land while pulling the bogged vehicles out.

Misjudged the angle of the towing strap, didn't watch the towing angle,
and pulled the back corner of the car smash into the substation paling
fence with the delicate crunching of brakelights.

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Why do they use plastic for drain covers on footways these days?


So they don't get stolen and melted down, leaving behind a gaping hole?
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Is it not about time they sorted out Hydrogen as a fuel? They could use the
renewables to make it from water, pump more oxygen in the air and use the
hydrogen either in internal combustion engines or fuel cells. The main issue
is storing such a small molecule.
Brian


The main issue is its cr@p fuel.
Greens are stupid enough to believe the it only produces water when its
used, completely ignoring the fact you have to make it, store it, move
it around, store it, put it in cars safely.

By the time you have done that its more polluting than diesel.



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The problem is the storage.


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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

Is it not about time they sorted out Hydrogen as a fuel?


Easier said than done.

They could use the renewables to make it from water, pump more oxygen in
the air and use the hydrogen either in internal combustion engines or fuel
cells. The main issue is storing such a small molecule.


The problem is the storage.

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On 08/12/2019 16:08, GB wrote:
On 08/12/2019 15:45, ARW wrote:
On 08/12/2019 15:27, Andrew wrote:
On 08/12/2019 15:16, ARW wrote:
Last replaced 75000 miles ago.

That's quite a lot for a Fiat to do without breaking down. Or have you
added a 0?


Electric vans. A firm like ours could viably use a couple due to the
mileage they do (as long as someone else paid for them). Not much use
for the 650 miles I drove last week.

There are electric cars that are good for 300 miles between charges.
Allegedly. If your 650 miles was 130 per day, that's doable just
charging at night.


Van not car. Different miles per day to make up the 650 miles (5 days)

I also like the heater on in winter and do 88MPH on a motorway.




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There are electric cars that are good for 300 miles between charges.
Allegedly.


Yup. And my car can do 35mpg on paper. But never does manage that over a
tank of fuel.

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On 09/12/2019 12:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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GB wrote:
There are electric cars that are good for 300 miles between charges.
Allegedly.


Yup. And my car can do 35mpg on paper. But never does manage that over a
tank of fuel.


I'm sure that's true. The funny thing is that many of the people who
have bought electric cars absolutely love them. A friend of ours
regularly drives his Tesla from London to Liverpool, a distance of 220
miles. He manages it without trouble, including in the winter, when he
has the heater on.

The car has a lot of benefits for long straightforward journeys like
that. It's quiet. It stays in lane. It checks blind spots if overtaking.
It brakes automatically. It's not sensible to regard it as automatic
driving, but it takes away a lot of the strain.

Apart from it being quiet and accelerating like the clappers, none of
those features have anything to do with it being an electric car, by the
way.


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On 09/12/2019 14:41, GB wrote:
On 09/12/2019 12:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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There are electric cars that are good for 300 miles between charges.
Allegedly.


Yup. And my car can do 35mpg on paper. But never does manage that over a
tank of fuel.


I'm sure that's true. The funny thing is that many of the people who
have bought electric cars absolutely love them. A friend of ours
regularly drives his Tesla from London to Liverpool, a distance of 220
miles. He manages it without trouble, including in the winter, when he
has the heater on.

The car has a lot of benefits for long straightforward journeys like
that. It's quiet. It stays in lane. It checks blind spots if overtaking.
It brakes automatically. It's not sensible to regard it as automatic
driving, but it takes away a lot of the strain.

Apart from it being quiet and accelerating like the clappers, none of
those features have anything to do with it being an electric car, by the
way.



And the electricity only has 5% vat on it, and at this time of year
a fair bit of it is generated by burning coal and gas.


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On 09/12/2019 12:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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GB wrote:
There are electric cars that are good for 300 miles between charges.
Allegedly.


Yup. And my car can do 35mpg on paper. But never does manage that over a
tank of fuel.


I'm sure that's true. The funny thing is that many of the people who
have bought electric cars absolutely love them. A friend of ours
regularly drives his Tesla from London to Liverpool, a distance of 220
miles. He manages it without trouble, including in the winter, when he
has the heater on.


The car has a lot of benefits for long straightforward journeys like
that. It's quiet. It stays in lane. It checks blind spots if overtaking.
It brakes automatically. It's not sensible to regard it as automatic
driving, but it takes away a lot of the strain.


Apart from it being quiet and accelerating like the clappers, none of
those features have anything to do with it being an electric car, by the
way.


Yup - the Tesla is very nice. But I'd expect any car costing that much to
be nice too. ;-)

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On 09/12/2019 07:38, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 08/12/2019 15:20, ARW wrote:
On 08/12/2019 12:02, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 08/12/2019 10:00, ARW wrote:
It's a FIAT Scudo if that helps.


Spontaneously fell apart?


No, but the drivers door check strap fell apart yesterday.

It's just doing it in stages then.


Yes. The glove box fell off last week.

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On 09/12/2019 14:41, GB wrote:
On 09/12/2019 12:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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*** GB wrote:
There are electric cars that are good for 300 miles between charges.
Allegedly.


Yup. And my car can do 35mpg on paper. But never does manage that over a
tank of fuel.


I'm sure that's true. The funny thing is that many of the people who
have bought electric cars absolutely love them. A friend of ours
regularly drives his Tesla from London to Liverpool, a distance of 220
miles. He manages it without trouble, including in the winter, when he
has the heater on.

The car has a lot of benefits for long straightforward journeys like
that. It's quiet. It stays in lane. It checks blind spots if overtaking.
It brakes automatically. It's not sensible to regard it as automatic
driving, but it takes away a lot of the strain.

Apart from it being quiet and accelerating like the clappers, none of
those features have anything to do with it being an electric car, by the
way.



Get him to try it in winter with ladders and a pipe carrier on the roof
with 3/4 of a ton of kit in the boot at 90MPG:-)

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On 08/12/2019 23:45, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 10:00:27 +0000, ARW wrote:

It's a FIAT Scudo if that helps.


Shagged a Renault Clio.


I've always put a bit of bromide in the fuel tank after the incident
with the Punto:-)

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 15:30:59 +0000, Andrew
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And the electricity only has 5% vat on it, and at this time of year
a fair bit of it is generated by burning coal and gas.


But it's not being burnt in the middle of busy towns and cities where
people are breathing.

If we leave the EU we can flood the tunnels with copper and tap into
the World Wide Grid that can chase the sun, wind and waves around the
world. ;-)

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On 09/12/2019 06:55, Richard wrote:
On 09/12/2019 01:11, Jim White wrote:
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On 08/12/2019 14:32, Pancho wrote:
On 08/12/2019 10:00, ARW wrote:
FIAT Scudo
Filled itself up with petrol?

Now it did break down half a mile after filling up and that was my first
thought:-)

But the receipt says diesel, the fuel card is only accepted for diesel
(and the M6 Toll) and the 5 litre can I also filled up to put into my
car smells like diesel.

It will fire up and tick over but as soon as you try to put any revs on
it plays up. Drove it home in first without touching the accelerator
pedal for the 1st 300m and then freewheeled it the last quarter a mile.

Best guess EGV again. Last replaced 75000 miles ago.


Any warning lights on? Was injectors on mine. Twice. *******.


Had intermittent problems with my Lexus. Diesel specialist correctly
found the culprit to be the suction control valve.
YMMV


No warning lights and not even an engine management light when it lost
power. No problems leading up to the failure.

So a cold start and a 1 mile journey to the filling station. Half a mile
from the filling station it lost power.

Called the AA out tonight at 15.50. Listened to their usual safety
advice before getting put through to a human. I was then asked a few
questions and then more questions about my safety. I was sat in the gf's
lounge and felt quite safe as she was at work.

AA turned up at 16.10 to the address I gave them and I said "Van's at
the back of the house on a different street" That's a 2 minute drive and
on the way I told the AA bloke what had happened and he said "EGV is gone"

Diagnostic machine said the glow relay was faulty and he said "No, the
machine is lying"

He blanked off the EGV and it fired up. I did a 2 mile road test while
he drunk his cup of tea and he was on his way by 16.45. I phoned the
office, they booked the van into the garage. The van was in the garage
at 17.15 and I was at home at 17.30.


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So a cold start and a 1 mile journey to the filling station. Half a mile
from the filling station it lost power.


Water (or silicone, was it years ago?) in the underground tank?

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On 09/12/2019 19:07, ARW wrote:
On 09/12/2019 06:55, Richard wrote:
On 09/12/2019 01:11, Jim White wrote:
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On 08/12/2019 14:32, Pancho wrote:
On 08/12/2019 10:00, ARW wrote:
FIAT Scudo
Filled itself up with petrol?

Now it did break down half a mile after filling up and that was my
first
thought:-)

But the receipt says diesel, the fuel card is only accepted for diesel
(and the M6 Toll) and the 5 litre can I also filled up to put into my
car smells like diesel.

It will fire up and tick over but as soon as you try to put any revs on
it plays up. Drove it home in first without touching the accelerator
pedal for the 1st 300m and then freewheeled it the last quarter a mile.

Best guess EGV again. Last replaced 75000 miles ago.

Any warning lights on? Was injectors on mine. Twice. *******.


Had intermittent problems with my Lexus. Diesel specialist correctly
found the culprit to be the suction control valve.
YMMV


No warning lights and not even an engine management light when it lost
power. No problems leading up to the failure.

So a cold start and a 1 mile journey to the filling station. Half a mile
from the filling station it lost power.

Called the AA out tonight at 15.50. Listened to their usual safety
advice before getting put through to a human. I was then asked a few
questions and then more questions about my safety. I was sat in the gf's
lounge and felt quite safe as she was at work.

AA turned up at 16.10 to the address I gave them and I said "Van's at
the back of the house on a different street" That's a 2 minute drive and
on the way I told the AA bloke what had happened and he said "EGV is gone"

Diagnostic machine said the glow relay was faulty and he said "No, the
machine is lying"

He blanked off the EGV and it fired up. I did a 2 mile road test while
he drunk his cup of tea and he was on his way by 16.45. I phoned the
office, they booked the van into the garage. The van was in the garage
at 17.15 and I was at home at 17.30.


That's good!
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On 08/12/2019 14:32, Pancho wrote:
On 08/12/2019 10:00, ARW wrote:
FIAT Scudo
Filled itself up with petrol?


Now it did break down half a mile after filling up and that was my
first thought:-)

But the receipt says diesel, the fuel card is only accepted for diesel
(and the M6 Toll) and the 5 litre can I also filled up to put into my
car smells like diesel.

It will fire up and tick over but as soon as you try to put any revs
on it plays up. Drove it home in first without touching the
accelerator pedal for the 1st 300m and then freewheeled it the last
quarter a mile.

Best guess EGV again. Last replaced 75000 miles ago.


Derv is supposed to be ok but there is something strange going on with
agricultural gas oil (red diesel). To appease the green lobby, 5%
organic source oil has been added for some time. Recently this has been
upped to 7% and other sources including palm oil used.

Palm oil production is a significant factor behind deforestation of the
Amazon.
The issue stems from these oils not being water repellent and excellent
hosts for fungal growth. Most agricultural fuel storage is above ground
and risks tank condensation through thermal cycling.

The problem arises because modern tractors have 2 micron fuel filters
which block after a few hours use.

I am sure Google can tell you mo-)



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On 09/12/2019 06:55, Richard wrote:
On 09/12/2019 01:11, Jim White wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 08/12/2019 14:32, Pancho wrote:
On 08/12/2019 10:00, ARW wrote:
FIAT Scudo
Filled itself up with petrol?

Now it did break down half a mile after filling up and that was my first
thought:-)

But the receipt says diesel, the fuel card is only accepted for diesel
(and the M6 Toll) and the 5 litre can I also filled up to put into my
car smells like diesel.

It will fire up and tick over but as soon as you try to put any revs on
it plays up. Drove it home in first without touching the accelerator
pedal for the 1st 300m and then freewheeled it the last quarter a mile.

Best guess EGV again. Last replaced 75000 miles ago.

Any warning lights on? Was injectors on mine. Twice. *******.

Had intermittent problems with my Lexus. Diesel specialist correctly
found the culprit to be the suction control valve.
YMMV


No warning lights and not even an engine management light when it lost
power. No problems leading up to the failure.

So a cold start and a 1 mile journey to the filling station. Half a
mile from the filling station it lost power.

Called the AA out tonight at 15.50. Listened to their usual safety
advice before getting put through to a human. I was then asked a few
questions and then more questions about my safety. I was sat in the
gf's lounge and felt quite safe as she was at work.

AA turned up at 16.10 to the address I gave them and I said "Van's at
the back of the house on a different street" That's a 2 minute drive
and on the way I told the AA bloke what had happened and he said "EGV
is gone"

Diagnostic machine said the glow relay was faulty and he said "No, the
machine is lying"

He blanked off the EGV and it fired up. I did a 2 mile road test while
he drunk his cup of tea and he was on his way by 16.45. I phoned the
office, they booked the van into the garage. The van was in the garage
at 17.15 and I was at home at 17.30.


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Must have been the same AA man I had out a few years ago for my Peugrot
motorhome. His advice was to leave it blanked off - doesn't affect MOT
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It's a FIAT Scudo if that helps.


Shagged a Renault Clio.

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On 09/12/2019 06:55, Richard wrote:
On 09/12/2019 01:11, Jim White wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 08/12/2019 14:32, Pancho wrote:
On 08/12/2019 10:00, ARW wrote:
FIAT Scudo
Filled itself up with petrol?

Now it did break down half a mile after filling up and that was my
first
thought:-)

But the receipt says diesel, the fuel card is only accepted for diesel
(and the M6 Toll) and the 5 litre can I also filled up to put into my
car smells like diesel.

It will fire up and tick over but as soon as you try to put any
revs on
it plays up. Drove it home in first without touching the accelerator
pedal for the 1st 300m and then freewheeled it the last quarter a
mile.

Best guess EGV again. Last replaced 75000 miles ago.

Any warning lights on? Was injectors on mine. Twice. *******.

*Had intermittent problems with my Lexus. Diesel specialist correctly
found the culprit to be the suction control valve.
YMMV


No warning lights and not even an engine management light when it lost
power. No problems leading up to the failure.

So a cold start and a 1 mile journey to the filling station. Half a
mile from the filling station it lost power.

Called the AA out tonight at 15.50. Listened to their usual safety
advice before getting put through to a human. I was then asked a few
questions and then more questions about my safety. I was sat in the
gf's lounge and felt quite safe as she was at work.

AA turned up at 16.10 to the address I gave them and I said "Van's at
the back of the house on a different street" That's a 2 minute drive
and on the way I told the AA bloke what had happened and he said "EGV
is gone"

Diagnostic machine said the glow relay was faulty and he said "No, the
machine is lying"

He blanked off the EGV and it fired up. I did a 2 mile road test while
he drunk his cup of tea and he was on his way by 16.45. I phoned the
office, they booked the van into the garage. The van was in the garage
at 17.15 and I was at home at 17.30.


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Must have been the same AA man I had out a few years ago for my Peugrot
motorhome. His advice was to leave it blanked off - doesn't affect MOT
test, so he said.


You need to remap the computer, or so I have been told.

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Yup. And my car can do 35mpg on paper. But never does manage that over a
tank of fuel.


I'm sure that's true. The funny thing is that many of the people who
have bought electric cars absolutely love them. A friend of ours
regularly drives his Tesla from London to Liverpool, a distance of 220
miles. He manages it without trouble, including in the winter, when he
has the heater on.

The car has a lot of benefits for long straightforward journeys like
that. It's quiet. It stays in lane. It checks blind spots if overtaking.
It brakes automatically. It's not sensible to regard it as automatic
driving, but it takes away a lot of the strain.

Apart from it being quiet and accelerating like the clappers, none of
those features have anything to do with it being an electric car, by the
way.



Get him to try it in winter with ladders and a pipe carrier on the roof
with 3/4 of a ton of kit in the boot at 90MPG:-)


90 MPG ? Who needs an electric with such a frugal vehicle.


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Get him to try it in winter with ladders and a pipe carrier on the roof
with 3/4 of a ton of kit in the boot at 90MPG:-)

90 MPG ? Who needs an electric with such a frugal vehicle.


That's Adam's coffee consumption :-)

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Must have been the same AA man I had out a few years ago for my Peugrot
motorhome. His advice was to leave it blanked off - doesn't affect MOT
test, so he said.


You need to remap the computer, or so I have been told.


Most ECUs will flag up a blocked EGR valve. As Adam says, you usually have
to have the ecu reprogrammed. Some can be fooled by having a blanking plate
with a small hole in it to allow some gas flow. You get most of the
benefits without the need to reprogram.

This will increase emissions though but not by enough to affect the MOT
test.

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Get him to try it in winter with ladders and a pipe carrier on the roof
with 3/4 of a ton of kit in the boot at 90MPG:-)


He's a radiologist, so the only equipment he need is a computer with a
good screen. However, he's very open to new ideas, and I'll be sure to
pass on your suggestions.

The new Tesla truck, which I think looks a lot uglier than a very ugly
thing, is available with a claimed range of 500 miles. (Well, it's not
available at all yet, but it will be in a couple of years.)
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On 09/12/2019 19:07, ARW wrote:
On 09/12/2019 06:55, Richard wrote:
On 09/12/2019 01:11, Jim White wrote:
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On 08/12/2019 14:32, Pancho wrote:
On 08/12/2019 10:00, ARW wrote:
FIAT Scudo
Filled itself up with petrol?

Now it did break down half a mile after filling up and that was my
first
thought:-)

But the receipt says diesel, the fuel card is only accepted for diesel
(and the M6 Toll) and the 5 litre can I also filled up to put into my
car smells like diesel.

It will fire up and tick over but as soon as you try to put any revs on
it plays up. Drove it home in first without touching the accelerator
pedal for the 1st 300m and then freewheeled it the last quarter a mile.

Best guess EGV again. Last replaced 75000 miles ago.

Any warning lights on? Was injectors on mine. Twice. *******.


Had intermittent problems with my Lexus. Diesel specialist correctly
found the culprit to be the suction control valve.
YMMV


No warning lights and not even an engine management light when it lost
power. No problems leading up to the failure.

So a cold start and a 1 mile journey to the filling station. Half a mile
from the filling station it lost power.

Called the AA out tonight at 15.50. Listened to their usual safety
advice before getting put through to a human. I was then asked a few
questions and then more questions about my safety. I was sat in the gf's
lounge and felt quite safe as she was at work.

AA turned up at 16.10 to the address I gave them and I said "Van's at
the back of the house on a different street" That's a 2 minute drive and
on the way I told the AA bloke what had happened and he said "EGV is gone"

Diagnostic machine said the glow relay was faulty and he said "No, the
machine is lying"

He blanked off the EGV and it fired up. I did a 2 mile road test while
he drunk his cup of tea and he was on his way by 16.45. I phoned the
office, they booked the van into the garage. The van was in the garage
at 17.15 and I was at home at 17.30.


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If you hadn't read it, read Katie Morleys latest consumer helpful advice
on the Daily telegraph online, entitled "I had a terrifying car
breakdown"

Apparently, the helpless complainant 'refuelled his/her petrol car using
the Adblu pump'. OMG, how do you manage to do THAT ?

Some of the comments are cracking.
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On 10/12/2019 09:09, Marland wrote:
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Yup. And my car can do 35mpg on paper. But never does manage that over a
tank of fuel.


I'm sure that's true. The funny thing is that many of the people who
have bought electric cars absolutely love them. A friend of ours
regularly drives his Tesla from London to Liverpool, a distance of 220
miles. He manages it without trouble, including in the winter, when he
has the heater on.

The car has a lot of benefits for long straightforward journeys like
that. It's quiet. It stays in lane. It checks blind spots if overtaking.
It brakes automatically. It's not sensible to regard it as automatic
driving, but it takes away a lot of the strain.

Apart from it being quiet and accelerating like the clappers, none of
those features have anything to do with it being an electric car, by the
way.



Get him to try it in winter with ladders and a pipe carrier on the roof
with 3/4 of a ton of kit in the boot at 90MPG:-)


90 MPG ? Who needs an electric with such a frugal vehicle.




The car will easily do 50MPG at 70MPH and 70MPG at 50MPH:-)


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It's a FIAT Scudo if that helps.


Shagged a Renault Clio.

Clios seem to be Lesbian now according to the advert.


That will upset the boy racers:-)

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It's a FIAT Scudo if that helps.

Shagged a Renault Clio.

Clios seem to be Lesbian now according to the advert.


That will upset the boy racers:-)


Well, most of them drive like ****s anyway.

GH

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