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Andrew[_22_] December 4th 19 01:02 PM

Broadband for all - not political
 
On 03/12/2019 21:46, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Â* Andrew wrote:
On 29/11/2019 13:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â* whisky-dave wrote:
Blood and urine tests general check up, I got the results back in
under 24 hours, if that was an NHS hospital I'd have to wait at least
a week.

Really? If the results are needed urgently, they are processed
urgently. If not needed urgently, why waste money on processing them
as if they were?


Some blood tests have to be done as soon after taking the blood as
possible, certainly within a few hours. EDTA samples for example.


Of course.

It's the built-in delays of the NHS procedures that takes a week.


Are you saying it costs no more to process such things quickly? Perhaps
you'd have someone standing by to rush it to the lab, then wait for the
results, and rush them back?

Nah this is the NHS - all hi-tech. They fax it back and forth.


The NHS secure intranet is used very commonly for connecting GP surgerys
with their local hospital, but the NHS is still the biggest purchaser of
FAX machines, which is still a very secure method of sending
confidential information (unlike normal emails).

However, even though the automatic analysers might take less than a
minute or so to derive 'standard' blood tests, you cannot make that
result available to the requestor immediately (ie. by secure email
or hospital computer system. It has to go through a set of procedures
to ensure that the result is valid (machines are not infallible)
and any abnormalities identified by a senior lab member and approved
by the haematologist or Biochemist.

Any urgent or unexpected rssults will be telephoned through to the
requestor. The rest follow the standard NHS and Royal mail
beaurocratic log jams.

If the patient is in A&E or an inpatient the results of the
life-critical tests are available within 30 minutes or less if
that hospital has a path lab on site (which all A&E sites will
have).


Of course again. Anything else would be stupid.




bert[_7_] December 6th 19 12:11 AM

Broadband for all - not political
 
In article , Andrew
writes
On 03/12/2019 21:46, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
* Andrew wrote:
On 29/11/2019 13:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
**** whisky-dave wrote:
Blood and urine tests general check up, I got the results back in
under 24 hours, if that was an NHS hospital I'd have to wait at least
a week.

Really? If the results are needed urgently, they are processed
urgently. If not needed urgently, why waste money on processing them
as if they were?


Some blood tests have to be done as soon after taking the blood as
possible, certainly within a few hours. EDTA samples for example.

Of course.

It's the built-in delays of the NHS procedures that takes a week.

Are you saying it costs no more to process such things quickly? Perhaps
you'd have someone standing by to rush it to the lab, then wait for the
results, and rush them back?

Nah this is the NHS - all hi-tech. They fax it back and forth.


The NHS secure intranet is used very commonly for connecting GP surgerys
with their local hospital, but the NHS is still the biggest purchaser of
FAX machines, which is still a very secure method of sending
confidential information (unlike normal emails).

Sending - maybe. But what happens when t has been received a the other
end and is left lying around ont he floor?
However, even though the automatic analysers might take less than a
minute or so to derive 'standard' blood tests, you cannot make that
result available to the requestor immediately (ie. by secure email
or hospital computer system. It has to go through a set of procedures
to ensure that the result is valid (machines are not infallible)
and any abnormalities identified by a senior lab member and approved
by the haematologist or Biochemist.

Any urgent or unexpected rssults will be telephoned through to the
requestor. The rest follow the standard NHS and Royal mail
beaurocratic log jams.

If the patient is in A&E or an inpatient the results of the
life-critical tests are available within 30 minutes or less if
that hospital has a path lab on site (which all A&E sites will
have).

Of course again. Anything else would be stupid.




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bert


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