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Picking a desk lock
I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and
one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? I could always drill it out, I suppose, but it would be nicer just to be able to undo it. The furniture is labelled "Project" and the key number is 125 and (we think) 78 on top. Could possibly be 7R? Bloody typical! Cheers Dave R -- W7 64 bit HTPC Intel Core i5 2500k Asrock Z68 Extreme 4 Gen 3 |
Picking a desk lock
On Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:44:14 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote:
I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? I could always drill it out, I suppose, but it would be nicer just to be able to undo it. The furniture is labelled "Project" and the key number is 125 and (we think) 78 on top. Could possibly be 7R? Bloody typical! Cheers Dave R plenty of youtube vids NT |
Picking a desk lock
On 9 Nov 2019 18:44:10 GMT, David WE Roberts
wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? I could always drill it out, I suppose, but it would be nicer just to be able to undo it. The furniture is labelled "Project" and the key number is 125 and (we think) 78 on top. Could possibly be 7R? Bloody typical! Cheers Dave R Project Office Furnitu the script at the top of their web page (project.co.uk) invites you to order replacement keys from them. Alternatively, there are master keys for those locks and the chances are that your local seller of second-hand office furniture has got one and could open the cabinet for you. Actually, I'VE got one of those master keys - about forty years ago I worked for a company that sold on those cabinets as new and I kept it in case it came in useful. I've just turned the house upside down looking for it and all I've achieved so far is an upside-down house. Sorry. I'll get back to the thread if anything turns up but do try Project and/or a second-hand dealer. Nick |
Picking a desk lock
On 09/11/2019 19:15, wrote:
On Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:44:14 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. plenty of youtube vids You need to find te videos that say bypassing the lock rather than picking Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5VIz2U_MI The exact same technique is used on some padlocks https://youtu.be/7Lsm4l3mRqw?t=782 -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Picking a desk lock
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote:
I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Many of these cabinets have a mechanism preventing more than one drawer opening so just make sure that BOTH drawers are FULLY in their closed position before trying to open one of them. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Picking a desk lock
On 09/11/2019 20:55, alan_m wrote:
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Many of these cabinets have a mechanism preventing more than one drawer opening so just make sure that BOTH drawers are FULLY in their closed position before trying to open one of them. If it is the normal type meaning not a high security type then they are very easy to pick, I can pick mine in around 5 seconds. |
Picking a desk lock
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote:
I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? Easy.. put a small screwdriver in and put slight pressure in the unlock direction. use a paper clip to run the end along the tumblers. usually open in a few seconds. |
Picking a desk lock
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:50:52 +0000, alan_m wrote:
On 09/11/2019 19:15, wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:44:14 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. plenty of youtube vids You need to find te videos that say bypassing the lock rather than picking Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5VIz2U_MI The exact same technique is used on some padlocks https://youtu.be/7Lsm4l3mRqw?t=782 Thanks. Now being tempted by lock pick sets off t'Internet. Also realising that a decent (may not break off in the lock at first use) set is about £20. Obviously an investment, but as the cabinet only cost £10 this does seem a counter intuitive solution. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 |
Picking a desk lock
On Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:27:25 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:50:52 +0000, alan_m wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:15, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:44:14 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. plenty of youtube vids You need to find te videos that say bypassing the lock rather than picking Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5VIz2U_MI The exact same technique is used on some padlocks https://youtu.be/7Lsm4l3mRqw?t=782 Thanks. Now being tempted by lock pick sets off t'Internet. Also realising that a decent (may not break off in the lock at first use) set is about £20. Obviously an investment, but as the cabinet only cost £10 this does seem a counter intuitive solution. It also seems a pointless spend. NT |
Picking a desk lock
On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:17:21 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:
On 9 Nov 2019 18:44:10 GMT, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? I could always drill it out, I suppose, but it would be nicer just to be able to undo it. The furniture is labelled "Project" and the key number is 125 and (we think) 78 on top. Could possibly be 7R? Bloody typical! Cheers Dave R Project Office Furnitu the script at the top of their web page (project.co.uk) invites you to order replacement keys from them. Alternatively, there are master keys for those locks and the chances are that your local seller of second-hand office furniture has got one and could open the cabinet for you. Actually, I'VE got one of those master keys - about forty years ago I worked for a company that sold on those cabinets as new and I kept it in case it came in useful. I've just turned the house upside down looking for it and all I've achieved so far is an upside-down house. Sorry. I'll get back to the thread if anything turns up but do try Project and/or a second-hand dealer. Nick I think that I have tracked the key down. https://www.fastkeys.co.uk/key-search-result/LOWE+AND +FLETCHER/78000-78999/240 This key range is used in Project wooden furniture, and the lock has 78 on the top and 125 on the bottom which should make the key 78125. Roughly £3 and £1 postage. I will wait to see what Project say on Monday. Cheers Dave R -- W7 64 bit HTPC Intel Core i5 2500k Asrock Z68 Extreme 4 Gen 3 |
Picking a desk lock
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 10:51:28 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:
On Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:27:25 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:50:52 +0000, alan_m wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:15, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:44:14 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. plenty of youtube vids You need to find te videos that say bypassing the lock rather than picking Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5VIz2U_MI The exact same technique is used on some padlocks https://youtu.be/7Lsm4l3mRqw?t=782 Thanks. Now being tempted by lock pick sets off t'Internet. Also realising that a decent (may not break off in the lock at first use) set is about £20. Obviously an investment, but as the cabinet only cost £10 this does seem a counter intuitive solution. It also seems a pointless spend. NT The temptation is to be distracted into learning to pick locks. Perhaps one for the Xmas present list. Cheers Dave R -- W7 64 bit HTPC Intel Core i5 2500k Asrock Z68 Extreme 4 Gen 3 |
Picking a desk lock
On 09/11/2019 20:55, alan_m wrote:
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Many of these cabinets have a mechanism preventing more than one drawer opening so just make sure that BOTH drawers are FULLY in their closed position before trying to open one of them. If you tip it up you may be able to access part of the mechanism from below. -- djc (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree. |
Picking a desk lock
On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 8:29:44 PM UTC, DJC wrote:
On 09/11/2019 20:55, alan_m wrote: On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Many of these cabinets have a mechanism preventing more than one drawer opening so just make sure that BOTH drawers are FULLY in their closed position before trying to open one of them. If you tip it up you may be able to access part of the mechanism from below. -- djc (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree. Try turning it upside down and giving it a jolt. sometimes a dinner knife inserted between the side if the drawer and the carcase and pushed down will release it |
Picking a desk lock
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote:
I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? I could always drill it out, I suppose, but it would be nicer just to be able to undo it. The furniture is labelled "Project" and the key number is 125 and (we think) 78 on top. Could possibly be 7R? Bloody typical! Cheers Dave R Buy a new key? That's what they did in an office I once worked in, there are places that specialise in such things. Then you'd have a key for too, to complete the set! |
Picking a desk lock
On Sunday, 10 November 2019 20:08:16 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 10:51:28 -0800, tabbypurr wrote: On Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:27:25 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:50:52 +0000, alan_m wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:15, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:44:14 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. plenty of youtube vids You need to find te videos that say bypassing the lock rather than picking Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5VIz2U_MI The exact same technique is used on some padlocks https://youtu.be/7Lsm4l3mRqw?t=782 Thanks. Now being tempted by lock pick sets off t'Internet. Also realising that a decent (may not break off in the lock at first use) set is about £20. Obviously an investment, but as the cabinet only cost £10 this does seem a counter intuitive solution. It also seems a pointless spend. NT The temptation is to be distracted into learning to pick locks. Perhaps one for the Xmas present list. A bent random pin is a costless hasseless way. Why pay for something you've no need for? I don't understand why some folk want to spend for zero advantage. |
Picking a desk lock
wrote in message ... On Sunday, 10 November 2019 20:08:16 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote: On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 10:51:28 -0800, tabbypurr wrote: On Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:27:25 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: On Sat, 09 Nov 2019 20:50:52 +0000, alan_m wrote: On 09/11/2019 19:15, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:44:14 UTC, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. plenty of youtube vids You need to find te videos that say bypassing the lock rather than picking Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5VIz2U_MI The exact same technique is used on some padlocks https://youtu.be/7Lsm4l3mRqw?t=782 Thanks. Now being tempted by lock pick sets off t'Internet. Also realising that a decent (may not break off in the lock at first use) set is about £20. Obviously an investment, but as the cabinet only cost £10 this does seem a counter intuitive solution. It also seems a pointless spend. NT The temptation is to be distracted into learning to pick locks. Perhaps one for the Xmas present list. A bent random pin is a costless hasseless way. Why pay for something you've no need for? I don't understand why some folk want to spend for zero advantage. It isnt zero advantage. There is some risk with the use of common stuff found around the house of it breaking off inside the lock and making the lock unusable. |
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Picking a desk lock
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:13:30 +0000, G r o g wrote:
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? I could always drill it out, I suppose, but it would be nicer just to be able to undo it. The furniture is labelled "Project" and the key number is 125 and (we think) 78 on top. Could possibly be 7R? Bloody typical! Cheers Dave R Buy a new key? That's what they did in an office I once worked in, there are places that specialise in such things. Then you'd have a key for too, to complete the set! My son knows about these things (office furniture supplier in a past life). He says you can sometimes remove the base (screws etc.) to access the vertical rod that locks the drawers. Failing that, new key is what they did. He always used these people: https://www.fastkeys.co.uk/ -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
Picking a desk lock
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:09:09 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:13:30 +0000, G r o g wrote: On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? I could always drill it out, I suppose, but it would be nicer just to be able to undo it. The furniture is labelled "Project" and the key number is 125 and (we think) 78 on top. Could possibly be 7R? Bloody typical! Cheers Dave R Buy a new key? That's what they did in an office I once worked in, there are places that specialise in such things. Then you'd have a key for too, to complete the set! My son knows about these things (office furniture supplier in a past life). He says you can sometimes remove the base (screws etc.) to access the vertical rod that locks the drawers. Failing that, new key is what they did. He always used these people: https://www.fastkeys.co.uk/ Thanks to all. Brief update: Project were very helpful and offered a replacement key for £10 + VAT Having already found FastKeys I used them for a replacement key because they were much cheaper. The key turned up today and fitted the lock but wouldn't turn it all the way. I then stood the drawers up on end and joggled them and eventually the bottom drawer came free. Turning the key demonstrated that the drawers had been unlocked anyway. Refitting the drawer and putting the cabinet back down showed the drawers jammed again. At that point I stood the cabinet up on end again, joggled, took the drawers out and investigated the locking mechanism which was loose and managed to jump out of the channel. Investigated the base of the drawers and there are "peg and lock" fittings like Ikea furniture and kitchen units. These were loose. Tightened them up to take the flex out, investigated the locking mechanism with the bottom drawer out to check that I got the lock in the top drawer aligned correctly, then finally put it back down, fitted the bottom drawer, and all is fine and I do have a key which works. With it tipped up I noted that it used to have castors. Hmm...that could be useful. Spent some time looking for some I was sure I had stored in case of need, then ordered some off Amazon. £10 set of drawers now costing over £20 but they look pretty solid. Ah, well. Dave R -- W7 64 bit HTPC Intel Core i5 2500k Asrock Z68 Extreme 4 Gen 3 |
Picking a desk lock
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote:
I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? An old steel filing cabinet I use as workshop storage seemed to have locked itself in transit when we moved. Lots of jiggling of drawers and banging on the sides freed mine. Mike |
Picking a desk lock
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:30:16 +0000, Muddymike wrote:
On 09/11/2019 18:44, David WE Roberts wrote: I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. Does anyone know how easy these office furniture locks are to pick? An old steel filing cabinet I use as workshop storage seemed to have locked itself in transit when we moved. Lots of jiggling of drawers and banging on the sides freed mine. Or just tip it up and move the locking bar back to where it was. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
Picking a desk lock
David WE Roberts writes:
I bought a two drawer wooden filing cabinet (well, one filing drawer and one shallow drawer) on Gumtree. No key, but checked it out and all looked good. Now we have lugged it up to the office it won't open. It seems to be locked. I assume the mechanism may have shifted during transit. I've had a metal "Bisley" filing cabinet for 30+ years. After a recent house move the drawers were stuck closed. Wiggling a steel rule down the side of one of the drawers released the stuck locking bar. I've just discovered what was causing the problem. I'd placed some magnets recovered from old hard disk drives on the side of the cabinet, and they were preventing the bar from sliding! Anyway, coffee break is over, must get back to restoring the old bathroom door. -- Alan J. Wylie https://www.wylie.me.uk/ Dance like no-one's watching. / Encrypt like everyone is. Security is inversely proportional to convenience |
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