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One car key.....
I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue
the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? |
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On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. |
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On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. -- Max Demian |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Should work fine but with some downsides. Mine is smart enough to work out when the key is out of the car and turns the headlights and side lights off when you get out of the car without turning them off manually. And you likely will lose the remote lock and unlock without using the physical key too. Some cars arent that expensive to get another key off ebay or aliexpress etc. |
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"David" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. Its unlikely that the insurance would ever notice you had done that. |
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On 15/10/2019 17:34, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Should work fine but with some downsides. Mine is smart enough to work out when the key is out of the car and turns the headlights and side lights off when you get out of the car without turning them off manually. And you likely will lose the remote lock and unlock without using the physical key too. Some cars arent that expensive to get another key off ebay or aliexpress etc. got a separate 315 Mc/s fob... |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 03:34 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:34:01 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile asshole's troll**** 03:34 in Australia? And you've been up and trolling for more than half an hour ALREADY!!!!! Is your unbearable loneliness not letting you sleep in again, you abnormal cantankerous senile cretin? LOL -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 03:37 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for almost an HOUR already!!!! LOL
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:37:28 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile asshole's latest troll**** -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 15/10/2019 17:34, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Should work fine but with some downsides. Mine is smart enough to work out when the key is out of the car and turns the headlights and side lights off when you get out of the car without turning them off manually. And you likely will lose the remote lock and unlock without using the physical key too. Some cars set the alarm (after a delay) when you remove the key from the car. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:49:08 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. Unless you're honest. An old-fashioned concept maybe... |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 15/10/2019 17:34, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Should work fine but with some downsides. Mine is smart enough to work out when the key is out of the car and turns the headlights and side lights off when you get out of the car without turning them off manually. And you likely will lose the remote lock and unlock without using the physical key too. Some cars set the alarm (after a delay) when you remove the key from the car. But with the chip glued to the switch, it wouldnt be able to do that and so you would have to manually lock the doors when leaving the car. Tho he later said that it has a separate remote so its unlikely that car does automatically set the alarm after a delay having observed the key leaving. |
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Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 07:47:19 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Some cars set the alarm (after a delay) when you remove the key from the car. But Better be kind to the ONLY idiot left who's still feeding you, senile Rodent! BG -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... has brought this to us :
I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Then your theft insurance on the car would be invalidated. |
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"Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... has brought this to us : I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Then your theft insurance on the car would be invalidated. But the insurer is unlikely to ever notice that that's what you have done even in the unlikely event that the insurance assessor does check the car to decide that it's a complete writeoff after the wreck has been discovered if you are careful about gluing the chip where it isnt obvious. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 09:11:42 +1100, ZakJames, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: But In auto-contradicting mode again, you abnormal senile pest? BG -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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ZakJames wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... has brought this to us : I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Then your theft insurance on the car would be invalidated. But the insurer is unlikely to ever notice that that's what you have done even in the unlikely event that the insurance assessor does check the car to decide that it's a complete writeoff after the wreck has been discovered if you are careful about gluing the chip where it isnt obvious. They ask for the keys when they settle. It will be obvious the key has been cut open to remove to €˜chip. It is people like Jim trying to save a few pounds and misleading insurers that drive up premiums for responsible drivers. |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... ZakJames wrote: "Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... has brought this to us : I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Then your theft insurance on the car would be invalidated. But the insurer is unlikely to ever notice that that's what you have done even in the unlikely event that the insurance assessor does check the car to decide that it's a complete writeoff after the wreck has been discovered if you are careful about gluing the chip where it isnt obvious. They ask for the keys when they settle. You can tell them that the thief stole those from the house so they could steal the car. It will be obvious the key has been cut open to remove to €˜chip. You dont have to cut mine open to get access to the chip. It is people like Jim trying to save a few pounds and misleading insurers that drive up premiums for responsible drivers. Very unlikely any car thief would notice that he doesnt heed the key to steal his car. He would have to have broken into the car to be able to see that he doesnt need to defeat the chip sensor. |
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On 16/10/2019 00:15, ZakJames wrote:
"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... ZakJames wrote: "Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... has brought this to us : I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Then your theft insurance on the car would be invalidated. But the insurer is unlikely to ever notice that that's what you have done even in the unlikely event that the insurance assessor does check the car to decide that it's a complete writeoff after the wreck has been discovered if you are careful about gluing the chip where it isnt obvious. They ask for the keys when they settle. You can tell them that the thief stole those from the house so they could steal the car. Well Rod, nice of you to show your true colours. Dishonest little **** aren't you. |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... On 16/10/2019 00:15, ZakJames wrote: "Brian Reay" wrote in message ... ZakJames wrote: "Harry Bloomfield"; "Esq." wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... has brought this to us : I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Then your theft insurance on the car would be invalidated. But the insurer is unlikely to ever notice that that's what you have done even in the unlikely event that the insurance assessor does check the car to decide that it's a complete writeoff after the wreck has been discovered if you are careful about gluing the chip where it isnt obvious. They ask for the keys when they settle. You can tell them that the thief stole those from the house so they could steal the car. nice of you to show your true colours. Dishonest little **** aren't you. Didnt say I would do it, ****wit. |
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On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:15:13 +1100, ZakJames, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: They ask for the keys when they settle. You can tell them that the thief stole those from the house so they could steal the car. That's usually no problem for psychopaths like you, is it, senile Rodent? -- FredXX to Rot Speed: "You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity and criminality is inherited after all?" Message-ID: |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:49:43 +1100, ZakJames, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: You can tell them that the thief stole those from the house so they could steal the car. nice of you to show your true colours. Dishonest little **** aren't you. Didn¢t say I would do it, ****wit. So you are just a driveling idiot! A psychopath AND a driveling idiot! But then, what's new? BG -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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"Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote: On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. It will have been damaged because there is no way that the thief would have known that it had the chip glued there so that all that was needed was to pick the key lock. |
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On 10/15/2019 5:35 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... crapped:
I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Path: not-for-mail Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.virginmedia.com:119 From: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Subject: One car key..... User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 3 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:35:06 UTC Organization: virginmedia.com Bytes: 804 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:35:06 +0100 X-Received-Bytes: 975 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3509032071 |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 19:04:29 +1100, ZakJames, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. It will have been damaged because there is no way that the thief would have known that it had the chip glued there so that all that was needed was to pick the key lock. Senile man, you ARE damaged goods! GG -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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"Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote: On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. On the assumption that there is still a "trade" in stolen cars just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required) Or alternatively, if the tech improvements mean that cars are now un-stealable (except on a low loader), there won't be any scroets roaming the street looking for a car to steal, will there? tim |
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tim... wrote:
just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required) It's not too difficult to get an engine to run, supply it with the right fuel mix and give it a twirl and it will run. As far as I understand it all the electronics of an immobiliser will do is make it difficult to get the electrics/injection powered up. Or alternatively, if the tech improvements mean that cars are now un-stealable (except on a low loader), there won't be any scroets roaming the street looking for a car to steal, will there? Presumably one can buy/replace the 'clever' bits anyway, so take the car away on the flat-bed and then simply replace the electronics. I don't suppose that it's all that difficult to find an unscrupulous seller (of the electronics) or you might be able to simply get the required bits out of a scrap car of the same or similar model. -- Chris Green · |
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On Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:24:30 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
"Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote: On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. On the assumption that there is still a "trade" in stolen cars I'm guessing there is , it was on eastenders :-) https://www.confused.com/on-the-road...cars-revealed# top-of-the-range vehicles such as Mercedes-Benz and BMW make up the majority of cars stolen and recovered in 2018. Strange the more expensive cars are so relatively easy to steal. just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required) https://www.carlock.co/blog/en/2019/...teal-your-car/ Or alternatively, if the tech improvements mean that cars are now un-stealable (except on a low loader), there won't be any scroets roaming the street looking for a car to steal, will there? The scroets are likely be equipt with tecnology rather than coat hangers and crobars. tim |
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On 16/10/2019 11:25, tim... wrote:
"Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote: On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. On the assumption that there is still a "trade" in stolen cars just how do they get them started?Â* (just generally, no specifics required) Or alternatively, if the tech improvements mean that cars are now un-stealable (except on a low loader), there won't be any scroets roaming the street looking for a car to steal, will there? tim push button start is a goldmine..... |
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alan_m wrote: On 15/10/2019 17:34, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? Should work fine but with some downsides. Mine is smart enough to work out when the key is out of the car and turns the headlights and side lights off when you get out of the car without turning them off manually. And you likely will lose the remote lock and unlock without using the physical key too. Some cars set the alarm (after a delay) when you remove the key from the car. Mine self locks after a pause when you remove the key and leave the car. If you are loading etc and have the bonnet open, it beeps to tell you this is about to happen. -- *Acupuncture is a jab well done* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Chris Bartram wrote: On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote: On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. You don't need the keys for that on at least some makes. It can be done via the diagnostic port using software a thief wouldn't find it hard to get. -- *If at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Chris Green wrote: just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required) It's not too difficult to get an engine to run, supply it with the right fuel mix and give it a twirl and it will run. As far as I understand it all the electronics of an immobiliser will do is make it difficult to get the electrics/injection powered up. Going to be fun driving a vehicle away while spraying a starter spray into it. Even more fun with a petrol engine. -- *Why were the Indians here first? They had reservations.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"tim..." wrote in message ... "Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote: On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. On the assumption that there is still a "trade" in stolen cars Corse there is with the higher value cars. just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required) They dont have to get them started, just tow them away like the repair people do. And they can get them started by relaying from the key inside the house. Or alternatively, if the tech improvements mean that cars are now un-stealable (except on a low loader), They are still stealable and the repair people dont use low loaders. Trailers and tilt trucks are much more commonly used. there won't be any scroets roaming the street looking for a car to steal, will there? |
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Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 06:52:22 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Corse there is with the higher value cars. just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required) They don¢t have to get them started, just tow them away like the repair people do. And they can get them started by relaying from the key inside the house. Or alternatively, if the tech improvements mean that cars are now un-stealable (except on a low loader), They are still stealable and the repair people don¢t use low loaders. Trailers and tilt trucks are much more commonly used. HAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Now ALSO an "expert" in car theft, you psychopathic "all-knowing" idiot? LOL -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:24:30 UTC+1, tim... wrote: "Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 15/10/2019 16:49, Max Demian wrote: On 15/10/2019 14:18, David wrote: On Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:35:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I bought a car with only one key....what if I cut the key open and glue the chip to the ignition switch and get a couple of keys cut.....thus avoiding dealer costs in getting new keys? As long as you're not that bothered about it being stolen, or receiving any payout from your insurance, then go for it. The insurer won't know if it's nicked. If it is recovered damaged, they may start to question how it was started. On the assumption that there is still a "trade" in stolen cars I'm guessing there is , it was on eastenders :-) https://www.confused.com/on-the-road...cars-revealed# I'm still part way through the recently shown Danish program where the perp steals a car to order every episode top-of-the-range vehicles such as Mercedes-Benz and BMW make up the majority of cars stolen and recovered in 2018. Strange the more expensive cars are so relatively easy to steal. just how do they get them started? (just generally, no specifics required) https://www.carlock.co/blog/en/2019/...teal-your-car/ well yes, I know about that but I don't own a keyless car tim |
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On Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:13:19 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message https://www.carlock.co/blog/en/2019/...teal-your-car/ well yes, I know about that but I don't own a keyless car tim I own a key that is carless :-) |
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