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[email protected] September 27th 19 09:54 AM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find that all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without), plus a submain that also had a lights circuit running from the secondary DB, we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had turned them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the lights after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override master switch. Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the lights on in the first place they would have had to know about the override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights were circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.

harry September 27th 19 10:37 AM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
On Friday, 27 September 2019 09:54:45 UTC+1, wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find that all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without), plus a submain that also had a lights circuit running from the secondary DB, we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had turned them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the lights after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override master switch. Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the lights on in the first place they would have had to know about the override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights were circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.


If they have tripped, the toggles would be in the mid position. To reset/turn back on, they have to be turned to the fully "off" position and then "on".
So it should be obvious if they have tripped or been turned off.

NY[_2_] September 27th 19 10:49 AM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 27 September 2019 09:54:45 UTC+1, wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find that
all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without), plus a
submain that also had a lights circuit running from the secondary DB,
we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had turned
them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the lights
after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override master switch.
Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the lights on in the
first place they would have had to know about the override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen
circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights were
circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.


If they have tripped, the toggles would be in the mid position. To
reset/turn back on, they have to be turned to the fully "off" position and
then "on".
So it should be obvious if they have tripped or been turned off.


That assumes the MCBs have that design. Ours (MCBs and RCDs) have only two
positions: fully on or fully off - there's no half-way state to say
"tripped" as opposed to "turned off manually".

Maybe it's different for 3-phase distribution boards rather than domestic
1-phase ones.


Rod Speed September 27th 19 11:06 AM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 


wrote in message
...
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find that
all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without), plus a
submain that also had a lights circuit running from the secondary DB,
we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had turned
them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the lights
after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override master switch.
Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the lights on in the
first place they would have had to know about the override switch!


One obvious explanation is that a different person turned the
lights on and turned them off.

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen
circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights were
circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.



The Natural Philosopher[_2_] September 27th 19 02:30 PM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
On 27/09/2019 10:49, NY wrote:
"harry" wrote in message
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On Friday, 27 September 2019 09:54:45 UTC+1, Â* wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find
that all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some
without), plus a submain that also had a lights circuit running from
the secondary DB, we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had
turned them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the
lights after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override
master switch. Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the
lights on in the first place they would have had to know about the
override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen
circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights
were circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.


If they have tripped, the toggles would be in the mid position. To
reset/turn back on, they have to be turned to the fully "off" position
and then "on".
So it should be obvious if they have trippedÂ* or been turned off.


That assumes the MCBs have that design. Ours (MCBs and RCDs) have only
two positions: fully on or fully off - there's no half-way state to say
"tripped" as opposed to "turned off manually".

Maybe it's different for 3-phase distribution boards rather than
domestic 1-phase ones.

Overvoltage on one or more of the phases can cause breakers to trp


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Peeler[_4_] September 27th 19 04:12 PM

Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 20:06:07 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


One obvious explanation is that a different person turned the
lights on and turned them off.


You'd better worry about that dim bulb in your head, senile Rodent!

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harry September 27th 19 04:38 PM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
On Friday, 27 September 2019 10:51:10 UTC+1, NY wrote:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 27 September 2019 09:54:45 UTC+1, wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find that
all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without), plus a
submain that also had a lights circuit running from the secondary DB,
we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had turned
them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the lights
after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override master switch.
Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the lights on in the
first place they would have had to know about the override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen
circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights were
circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.


If they have tripped, the toggles would be in the mid position. To
reset/turn back on, they have to be turned to the fully "off" position and
then "on".
So it should be obvious if they have tripped or been turned off.


That assumes the MCBs have that design. Ours (MCBs and RCDs) have only two
positions: fully on or fully off - there's no half-way state to say
"tripped" as opposed to "turned off manually".

Maybe it's different for 3-phase distribution boards rather than domestic
1-phase ones.


Well it is "UK" diy
On a 3 phase board you can have both single and three phase MCBs.


ARW September 27th 19 08:34 PM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
On 27/09/2019 16:38, harry wrote:

On a 3 phase board you can have both single and three phase MCBs.



Can some one add that to the Ladybird book of electrics?


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ARW September 27th 19 08:56 PM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
On 27/09/2019 09:54, wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find that all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without), plus a submain that also had a lights circuit running from the secondary DB, we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had turned them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the lights after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override master switch. Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the lights on in the first place they would have had to know about the override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights were circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.



There is only one explanation.

Some pillock has turned the MCBs off.


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Brian Gaff September 28th 19 12:10 PM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
There have been lots of storms, maybe a spike did it.
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 27/09/2019 10:49, NY wrote:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 27 September 2019 09:54:45 UTC+1, wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find that
all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without), plus
a submain that also had a lights circuit running from the secondary DB,
we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had turned
them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the lights
after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override master
switch. Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the lights on
in the first place they would have had to know about the override
switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen
circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights
were circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.

If they have tripped, the toggles would be in the mid position. To
reset/turn back on, they have to be turned to the fully "off" position
and then "on".
So it should be obvious if they have tripped or been turned off.


That assumes the MCBs have that design. Ours (MCBs and RCDs) have only
two positions: fully on or fully off - there's no half-way state to say
"tripped" as opposed to "turned off manually".

Maybe it's different for 3-phase distribution boards rather than domestic
1-phase ones.

Overvoltage on one or more of the phases can cause breakers to trp


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Andrew[_22_] September 28th 19 12:25 PM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
On 27/09/2019 20:56, ARW wrote:
On 27/09/2019 09:54, wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find
that all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without),
plus a submain that also had a lights circuit running from the
secondary DB, we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had
turned them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the
lights after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override
master switch.Â* Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the
lights on in the first place they would have had to know about the
override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen
circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights
were circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.



There is only one explanation.

Some pillock has turned the MCBs off.



Turn them on, and put some superglue on the MCB tabs then
you will catch the culprit next time :-)

Rod Speed September 28th 19 07:43 PM

What would cause lots of MCBs to trip together?
 
Brian Gaff wrote

There have been lots of storms, maybe a spike did it.


Nope, spikes don’t do that.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 27/09/2019 10:49, NY wrote:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 27 September 2019 09:54:45 UTC+1, wrote:
Three phase DB. Turned up and tried to turn the lights on, to find
that all the MCBs controlling circuits with lights (and some without),
plus a submain that also had a lights circuit running from the
secondary DB, we're off.

The only possibly explanation I can think of is that someone had
turned them all off, because they were blindly trying to turn off the
lights after working there and hadn't noticed the timer override
master switch. Problem with that theory is that in order to turn the
lights on in the first place they would have had to know about the
override switch!

Is there any possible electrical fault which could trip half a dozen
circuits and leave no signs, a maximum of 24 hours since the lights
were circuits were last on. There was no evidence of water leakage.

If they have tripped, the toggles would be in the mid position. To
reset/turn back on, they have to be turned to the fully "off" position
and then "on".
So it should be obvious if they have tripped or been turned off.

That assumes the MCBs have that design. Ours (MCBs and RCDs) have only
two positions: fully on or fully off - there's no half-way state to say
"tripped" as opposed to "turned off manually".

Maybe it's different for 3-phase distribution boards rather than
domestic 1-phase ones.

Overvoltage on one or more of the phases can cause breakers to trp




Peeler[_4_] September 28th 19 08:33 PM

Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:43:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Nope


Another tiny tiny little senile climax for you again, eh, senile Rodent? LOL

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