So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.
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On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.


He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or
abrade it in any way, just ignore it.

Paint it with oil-based or intumescent paint if it bothers
you.

Do you mean 'ceiling' or roof ?. Are the garages at ground
level with the flats above ?. If so, that is your fire
barrier and the freeholder is responsible for it. If you
do anything that might affect the fire resistance then you
are liable.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:14:50 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.


He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or
abrade it in any way, just ignore it.

Paint it with oil-based or intumescent paint if it bothers
you.

It does bother me, if it can be regarded as a health hazard.
And I like the idea of minimum intervention, so painting the ceiling
seems like quite an attractive idea.

Do you mean 'ceiling' or roof ?.

Ceiling.

Are the garages at ground
level with the flats above ?.

They're separate from the residences but I suspect the asbestos
ceiling is meant to be a fire stop anyway.

If so, that is your fire
barrier and the freeholder is responsible for it. If you
do anything that might affect the fire resistance then you
are liable.

Maybe the fire resistence would be somewhat affected by the
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On 20/09/2019 14:14, Andrew wrote:
On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Â* So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.


He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or
abrade it in any way, just ignore it.

+1. It's worse than cement board for letting the fibres "fly"

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On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:

So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left
undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white
asbestos fibre.

No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a
ceiling, paint it and leave it alone.

If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to
the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities).



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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:54:25 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:

So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left
undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white
asbestos fibre.

No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a
ceiling, paint it and leave it alone.

If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to
the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities).

I thinke I'll go for a coat of paint. A thick one. Thanks.
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 16:29:47 +0100, ARW
wrote:

On 20/09/2019 14:14, Andrew wrote:
On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
* So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.


He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or
abrade it in any way, just ignore it.

+1. It's worse than cement board for letting the fibres "fly"

I do see a few danglies along the cut edges, which I hope to tame.
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On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

don't cut or mess with it and it will be fine ......no health danger ....

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.


NT

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.


NT

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 18:16:37 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:54:25 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:

So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left
undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white
asbestos fibre.

No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a
ceiling, paint it and leave it alone.

If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to
the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities).

I thinke I'll go for a coat of paint. A thick one. Thanks.

I looked at a bitumastic paint for the outside of such a roof - the
instructions included cleaning the roof with a wire brush! This is for a
paint intended for the purpose - I didn't use it.
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"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact
it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

Doesn't have to seal, just keep the fibres in place.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 17:43:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

Doesn't have to seal, just keep the fibres in place.

Nobody asked you anything! So just keep your mouth shut, senile Ozzie troll!

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"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact
it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

Doesn't have to seal, just keep the fibres in place.

Yes but the term sealing does have quite a reassuring ring to it in
such circumstances.
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On Saturday, 21 September 2019 07:55:01 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr wrote:
On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.


NT

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

You want gluing ablity & waterproofness so it stays there. Bitumen, household gloss.


NT

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?

If you do decide to get rid of it I'll have some.

I'd like something fireproof behind the cooker and the electrics board.

Owain

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 03:29:17 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?

If you do decide to get rid of it I'll have some.

I'd like something fireproof behind the cooker and the electrics board.

Owain

Are you into cooking exceptionally spicey food?

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On Saturday, 21 September 2019 11:53:57 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 03:29:17 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?

If you do decide to get rid of it I'll have some.

I'd like something fireproof behind the cooker and the electrics board.

Owain

Are you into cooking exceptionally spicey food?

I don't know about Owain, but some people do like to incinerate their food.


NT

On Saturday, 21 September 2019 12:20:09 UTC+1, wrote:
I don't know about Owain, but some people do like to incinerate their food.

I prefer "well done".

Or at least "bugs killed".

Owain

On 21/09/2019 08:40, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 18:16:37 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:54:25 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:

So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left
undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white
asbestos fibre.

No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a
ceiling, paint it and leave it alone.

If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to
the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities).

I thinke I'll go for a coat of paint. A thick one. Thanks.

I looked at a bitumastic paint for the outside of such a roof - the
instructions included cleaning the roof with a wire brush! This is for a
paint intended for the purpose - I didn't use it.

Painting with SBR also works very well to soak in and consolidate
anything lose or friable IME. (much more effective than PVA)


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On 21/09/2019 07:55, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.


NT

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

SBR is designed for bonding cementitious materials. Often used as a
admix for waterproofing and as a bonding agent, it also can be applied
after as a sealer, tanking agent, or anywhere you need stuff stuck
together with something that penetrates. (I find it very good for fixing
loose skim coat on plaster for example).

E.g.

https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/...-box-of-4.html


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On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:14:54 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 21/09/2019 07:55, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.


NT

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

SBR is designed for bonding cementitious materials. Often used as a
admix for waterproofing and as a bonding agent, it also can be applied
after as a sealer, tanking agent, or anywhere you need stuff stuck
together with something that penetrates. (I find it very good for fixing
loose skim coat on plaster for example).

E.g.

https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/...-box-of-4.html

I'll give that a go. Can I paint on top? White for extra light.
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On 21/09/2019 18:16, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:14:54 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 21/09/2019 07:55, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.


NT

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

SBR is designed for bonding cementitious materials. Often used as a
admix for waterproofing and as a bonding agent, it also can be applied
after as a sealer, tanking agent, or anywhere you need stuff stuck
together with something that penetrates. (I find it very good for fixing
loose skim coat on plaster for example).

E.g.

https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/...-box-of-4.html

I'll give that a go. Can I paint on top? White for extra light.

Yup, it dries to a slightly shiny clear finish a bit like PVA. You can
certainly overpaint with oil based paint or primer. You can probably do
it with emulsion as well, as long as you don't overdo it. Its quite
thin, so tends to sink into anything porous.


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On 21/09/2019 09:47, wrote:
On Saturday, 21 September 2019 07:55:01 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr wrote:
On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does
it need to be removed completely?
A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie.
But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage.

It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up.


NT

Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose?
That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like
qualities rather than decorativeness?

You want gluing ablity & waterproofness so it stays there. Bitumen, household gloss.

It's an internal ceiling, not actual roof covering exposed to the
weather.

NT

replying to John Rumm, Ian wrote:
I have to cut away a 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't want
to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions
should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions?

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According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes Asbestos boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed contractors. About the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is Asbestos/cement boards because the risk is very low. We removed a garage roof made of corrugated cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac suits and face masks. If your local council has an asbestos disposal facility you will find they will probably only accept cement/asbestos and will require it to be double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement product was made called Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface look owing to mica being incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos free but there is some debate whether it is contaminated as it was produced at the same facilities that previously made asbestos board.

Richard

On 24/02/2020 17:11, Tricky Dicky wrote:
According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes Asbestos boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed contractors. About the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is Asbestos/cement boards because the risk is very low. We removed a garage roof made of corrugated cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac suits and face masks. If your local council has an asbestos disposal facility you will find they will probably only accept cement/asbestos and will require it to be double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement product was made called Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface look owing to mica being incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos free but there is some debate whether it is contaminated as it was produced at the same facilities that previously made asbestos board.

Richard

I spent years sunbathing on my parents asbestolux garage roof.


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On Monday, 24 February 2020 13:44:04 UTC, Ian wrote:
replying to John Rumm, Ian wrote:

I have to cut away a 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't want
to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions
should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions?

Sawing the stuff is difficult and creates a hazard. Better to remove a whole panel, intact if possible, and fit new board as required. Fibreglass reinforced cement sheet is the modern replacement. Wetting the asbestos cement sheet reduces risk of airborne fibres if it breaks.

Some tips take it if double bagged.


NT

On 24/02/2020 13:44, Ian wrote:
replying to John Rumm, Ian wrote:
I have to cut away aÂ* 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't
want
to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions
should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions?

I would suggest you don't break it or machine it further. Soak it before
handling. Then double bag it, tape it up, and take it to a local tip
that has an asbestos skip.


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The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging
making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. However even we
had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it
very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we
use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. I used to saw the
corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s with no ill
effects, the dust was not airborne.


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On 24/02/2020 17:11, Tricky Dicky wrote:
According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes Asbestos
boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed contractors. About
the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is Asbestos/cement boards
because the risk is very low. We removed a garage roof made of corrugated
cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac suits and face masks. If
your local council has an asbestos disposal facility you will find they
will probably only accept cement/asbestos and will require it to be
double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement product was made called
Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface look owing to mica being
incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos free but there is some
debate whether it is contaminated as it was produced at the same
facilities that previously made asbestos board.

Richard

I spent years sunbathing on my parents asbestolux garage roof.


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On Tuesday, 25 February 2020 07:47:33 UTC, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging
making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. However even we
had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it
very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we
use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. I used to saw the
corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s with no ill
effects, the dust was not airborne.


Asbestos fibres can't be expelled from and irritates the lung causing cancer.
Talcum powder is identical chemically but doesn't take the for of fibres.

Talcum powder was often contaminated with asbestos.
Comes from the same place.

Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging
making them so brittle you can easily go straight through.

Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old.

However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and
remove it.

I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its
the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous.

Concentrated. no, fibers yes.

I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in
the 70s

I used a proper fibro cutter.
https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB

with no ill effects,

It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades.

the dust was not airborne.

I did drill quite a bit in the very early 70s.

No ill effects yet.

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On 24/02/2020 17:11, Tricky Dicky wrote:
According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes
Asbestos boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed
contractors. About the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is
Asbestos/cement boards because the risk is very low. We removed a garage
roof made of corrugated cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac
suits and face masks. If your local council has an asbestos disposal
facility you will find they will probably only accept cement/asbestos
and will require it to be double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement
product was made called Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface
look owing to mica being incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos
free but there is some debate whether it is contaminated as it was
produced at the same facilities that previously made asbestos board.

Richard

I spent years sunbathing on my parents asbestolux garage roof.


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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging
making them so brittle you can easily go straight through.

Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old.

However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and
remove it.

I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its
the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous.

Concentrated. no, fibers yes.

I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in
the 70s

I used a proper fibro cutter.
https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB

with no ill effects,

It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades.

and it then kills quite quickly. A friend was diagnosed in April and died
in September. It's untreatable.

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On 25/02/2020 09:36, charles wrote:
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging
making them so brittle you can easily go straight through.

Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old.

However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and
remove it.

I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its
the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous.

Concentrated. no, fibers yes.

I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in
the 70s

I used a proper fibro cutter.
https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB

with no ill effects,

It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades.

and it then kills quite quickly. A friend was diagnosed in April and died
in September. It's untreatable.

Many illnesses are like that. Lung cancer and bowel cancer and
pancreatic cancers


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On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 19:54:38 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH senile troll****

19:54??? LOL So for how many hours did you sleep during the afternoon, you
clinically insane 85-year-old trolling senile pest? BG

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"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is
aging
making them so brittle you can easily go straight through.

Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old.

However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and
remove it.

I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess
its
the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous.

Concentrated. no, fibers yes.

I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in
the 70s

I used a proper fibro cutter.
https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB

with no ill effects,

It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades.

and it then kills quite quickly.

Not always.

A friend was diagnosed in April and
died in September. It's untreatable.

Some of ours have lasted much longer than that, a decade in fact.
https://www.turnerfreeman.com.au/per...bernie-banton/

On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 04:33:35 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH senile asshole's troll****

04:33??? LOL Is your unbearable loneliness not letting you sleep again, you
disgusting senile pest? Serves you right! LOL

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"Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole."
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On 24/02/2020 13:44, Ian wrote:
replying to John Rumm, Ian wrote:
I have to cut away aÂ* 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't
want
to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions
should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions?

I wouldn't worry too much...Trump is bringing back its manufacture....