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My garage has an Asbestolux? ceiling.
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware.
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or abrade it in any way, just ignore it. Paint it with oil-based or intumescent paint if it bothers you. Do you mean 'ceiling' or roof ?. Are the garages at ground level with the flats above ?. If so, that is your fire barrier and the freeholder is responsible for it. If you do anything that might affect the fire resistance then you are liable. |
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:14:50 +0100, Andrew
wrote: On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or abrade it in any way, just ignore it. Paint it with oil-based or intumescent paint if it bothers you. It does bother me, if it can be regarded as a health hazard. And I like the idea of minimum intervention, so painting the ceiling seems like quite an attractive idea. Do you mean 'ceiling' or roof ?. Ceiling. Are the garages at ground level with the flats above ?. They're separate from the residences but I suspect the asbestos ceiling is meant to be a fire stop anyway. If so, that is your fire barrier and the freeholder is responsible for it. If you do anything that might affect the fire resistance then you are liable. Maybe the fire resistence would be somewhat affected by the application of paint. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 20/09/2019 14:14, Andrew wrote:
On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: Â* So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or abrade it in any way, just ignore it. +1. It's worse than cement board for letting the fibres "fly" -- Adam |
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On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white asbestos fibre. No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a ceiling, paint it and leave it alone. If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities). -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:54:25 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white asbestos fibre. No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a ceiling, paint it and leave it alone. If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities). I thinke I'll go for a coat of paint. A thick one. Thanks. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 16:29:47 +0100, ARW
wrote: On 20/09/2019 14:14, Andrew wrote: On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: * So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. He is right. Unless you intend to drill holes in it or abrade it in any way, just ignore it. +1. It's worse than cement board for letting the fibres "fly" I do see a few danglies along the cut edges, which I hope to tame. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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My garage has an Asbestolux? ceiling.
On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. don't cut or mess with it and it will be fine ......no health danger .... |
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On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up. NT |
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 18:16:37 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:54:25 +0100, John Rumm wrote: On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white asbestos fibre. No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a ceiling, paint it and leave it alone. If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities). I thinke I'll go for a coat of paint. A thick one. Thanks. I looked at a bitumastic paint for the outside of such a roof - the instructions included cleaning the roof with a wire brush! This is for a paint intended for the purpose - I didn't use it. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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"Mike Halmarack" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up. Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose? That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like qualities rather than decorativeness? Doesn't have to seal, just keep the fibres in place. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 17:43:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose? That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like qualities rather than decorativeness? Doesn't have to seal, just keep the fibres in place. Nobody asked you anything! So just keep your mouth shut, senile Ozzie troll! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 17:43:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "Mike Halmarack" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up. Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose? That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like qualities rather than decorativeness? Doesn't have to seal, just keep the fibres in place. Yes but the term sealing does have quite a reassuring ring to it in such circumstances. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Saturday, 21 September 2019 07:55:01 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up. NT Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose? That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like qualities rather than decorativeness? You want gluing ablity & waterproofness so it stays there. Bitumen, household gloss. NT |
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On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? If you do decide to get rid of it I'll have some. I'd like something fireproof behind the cooker and the electrics board. Owain |
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 03:29:17 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? If you do decide to get rid of it I'll have some. I'd like something fireproof behind the cooker and the electrics board. Owain Are you into cooking exceptionally spicey food? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Saturday, 21 September 2019 11:53:57 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 03:29:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? If you do decide to get rid of it I'll have some. I'd like something fireproof behind the cooker and the electrics board. Owain Are you into cooking exceptionally spicey food? I don't know about Owain, but some people do like to incinerate their food. NT |
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I don't know about Owain, but some people do like to incinerate their food. I prefer "well done". Or at least "bugs killed". Owain |
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On 21/09/2019 08:40, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 18:16:37 +0100, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:54:25 +0100, John Rumm wrote: On 20/09/2019 13:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. Its a cement board with fibre re-enforcement. So in itself if left undisturbed, very low risk with only a small amount (~5% IIRC) white asbestos fibre. No risk at all unless you are machining it. So if all you need is a ceiling, paint it and leave it alone. If you must remove it, damp it down, and double bag it before taking to the tip (many will take that kind of asbestos panel in small quantities). I thinke I'll go for a coat of paint. A thick one. Thanks. I looked at a bitumastic paint for the outside of such a roof - the instructions included cleaning the roof with a wire brush! This is for a paint intended for the purpose - I didn't use it. Painting with SBR also works very well to soak in and consolidate anything lose or friable IME. (much more effective than PVA) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 21/09/2019 07:55, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up. NT Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose? That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like qualities rather than decorativeness? SBR is designed for bonding cementitious materials. Often used as a admix for waterproofing and as a bonding agent, it also can be applied after as a sealer, tanking agent, or anywhere you need stuff stuck together with something that penetrates. (I find it very good for fixing loose skim coat on plaster for example). E.g. https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/...-box-of-4.html -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:14:54 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: On 21/09/2019 07:55, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up. NT Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose? That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like qualities rather than decorativeness? SBR is designed for bonding cementitious materials. Often used as a admix for waterproofing and as a bonding agent, it also can be applied after as a sealer, tanking agent, or anywhere you need stuff stuck together with something that penetrates. (I find it very good for fixing loose skim coat on plaster for example). E.g. https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/...-box-of-4.html I'll give that a go. Can I paint on top? White for extra light. -- Richard Treen --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 21/09/2019 18:16, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:14:54 +0100, John Rumm wrote: On 21/09/2019 07:55, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:56:15 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Friday, 20 September 2019 13:43:29 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: So do the other 27 flat owners in this block, as far as I'm aware. I want to work in the garage, so can I have it plastered over, or does it need to be removed completely? A very nice old neighbour told me I should let sleeping dogs lie. But then, I don't think he wants to tinker about in his garage. It's only a hazard if it's releasing fibres. As long as it stays intact it's ok. Paint or plaster help seal it up. NT Can ayone recommend the most suitable paint for this purpose? That is perhaps one with an empahsis on it's sealing, barrier-like qualities rather than decorativeness? SBR is designed for bonding cementitious materials. Often used as a admix for waterproofing and as a bonding agent, it also can be applied after as a sealer, tanking agent, or anywhere you need stuff stuck together with something that penetrates. (I find it very good for fixing loose skim coat on plaster for example). E.g. https://www.roofingsuperstore.co.uk/...-box-of-4.html I'll give that a go. Can I paint on top? White for extra light. Yup, it dries to a slightly shiny clear finish a bit like PVA. You can certainly overpaint with oil based paint or primer. You can probably do it with emulsion as well, as long as you don't overdo it. Its quite thin, so tends to sink into anything porous. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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I have to cut away a 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't want to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...g-1384437-.htm |
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According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes Asbestos boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed contractors. About the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is Asbestos/cement boards because the risk is very low. We removed a garage roof made of corrugated cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac suits and face masks. If your local council has an asbestos disposal facility you will find they will probably only accept cement/asbestos and will require it to be double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement product was made called Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface look owing to mica being incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos free but there is some debate whether it is contaminated as it was produced at the same facilities that previously made asbestos board.
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On 24/02/2020 17:11, Tricky Dicky wrote:
According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes Asbestos boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed contractors. About the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is Asbestos/cement boards because the risk is very low. We removed a garage roof made of corrugated cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac suits and face masks. If your local council has an asbestos disposal facility you will find they will probably only accept cement/asbestos and will require it to be double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement product was made called Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface look owing to mica being incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos free but there is some debate whether it is contaminated as it was produced at the same facilities that previously made asbestos board. Richard I spent years sunbathing on my parents asbestolux garage roof. -- €œA leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, €œWe did this ourselves.€ €• Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching |
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On Monday, 24 February 2020 13:44:04 UTC, Ian wrote:
replying to John Rumm, Ian wrote: I have to cut away a 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't want to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions? Sawing the stuff is difficult and creates a hazard. Better to remove a whole panel, intact if possible, and fit new board as required. Fibreglass reinforced cement sheet is the modern replacement. Wetting the asbestos cement sheet reduces risk of airborne fibres if it breaks. Some tips take it if double bagged. NT |
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On 24/02/2020 13:44, Ian wrote:
replying to John Rumm, Ian wrote: I have to cut away aÂ* 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't want to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions? I would suggest you don't break it or machine it further. Soak it before handling. Then double bag it, tape it up, and take it to a local tip that has an asbestos skip. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging
making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s with no ill effects, the dust was not airborne. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/02/2020 17:11, Tricky Dicky wrote: According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes Asbestos boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed contractors. About the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is Asbestos/cement boards because the risk is very low. We removed a garage roof made of corrugated cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac suits and face masks. If your local council has an asbestos disposal facility you will find they will probably only accept cement/asbestos and will require it to be double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement product was made called Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface look owing to mica being incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos free but there is some debate whether it is contaminated as it was produced at the same facilities that previously made asbestos board. Richard I spent years sunbathing on my parents asbestolux garage roof. -- "A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, "We did this ourselves." ? Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching |
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On Tuesday, 25 February 2020 07:47:33 UTC, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s with no ill effects, the dust was not airborne. Asbestos fibres can't be expelled from and irritates the lung causing cancer. Talcum powder is identical chemically but doesn't take the for of fibres. Talcum powder was often contaminated with asbestos. Comes from the same place. |
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My garage has an Asbestolux? ceiling.
Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote
The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old. However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. Concentrated. no, fibers yes. I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s I used a proper fibro cutter. https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB with no ill effects, It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades. the dust was not airborne. I did drill quite a bit in the very early 70s. No ill effects yet. "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/02/2020 17:11, Tricky Dicky wrote: According to HSE all work carried out on Asbestos which includes Asbestos boards such as Asbestolux should be done by licensed contractors. About the only asbestos removal that a DIYer can do is Asbestos/cement boards because the risk is very low. We removed a garage roof made of corrugated cement/asbestos but took the precaution of Tevac suits and face masks. If your local council has an asbestos disposal facility you will find they will probably only accept cement/asbestos and will require it to be double wrapped too. Post 1976 a replacement product was made called Supalux recognisable by its glittery surface look owing to mica being incorporated. It was supposed to be asbestos free but there is some debate whether it is contaminated as it was produced at the same facilities that previously made asbestos board. Richard I spent years sunbathing on my parents asbestolux garage roof. -- "A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, "We did this ourselves." ? Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching |
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Rod Speed wrote: Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old. However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. Concentrated. no, fibers yes. I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s I used a proper fibro cutter. https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB with no ill effects, It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades. and it then kills quite quickly. A friend was diagnosed in April and died in September. It's untreatable. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 25/02/2020 09:36, charles wrote:
In article , Rod Speed wrote: Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old. However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. Concentrated. no, fibers yes. I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s I used a proper fibro cutter. https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB with no ill effects, It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades. and it then kills quite quickly. A friend was diagnosed in April and died in September. It's untreatable. Many illnesses are like that. Lung cancer and bowel cancer and pancreatic cancers -- "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...." "What kind of person is not interested in those things?" "Jeremy Corbyn?" |
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Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 19:54:38 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile troll**** 19:54??? LOL So for how many hours did you sleep during the afternoon, you clinically insane 85-year-old trolling senile pest? BG -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , Rod Speed wrote: Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote The main problem with anything made of asbestos cement or similar is aging making them so brittle you can easily go straight through. Not a problem with any of mine that is now 50 years old. However even we had to get a company in to take it all down and bag and remove it. I find it very odd that asbestos, a mineral, is so dangerous. I guess its the way we use it concentrated and in fibres that makes it dangerous. Concentrated. no, fibers yes. I used to saw the corrugated cement panels with a power jigsaw back in the 70s I used a proper fibro cutter. https://stonex.com.au/products/ox-tr...MaAnSrEALw_wcB with no ill effects, It takes quite a while for asbestosis to show up, decades. and it then kills quite quickly. Not always. A friend was diagnosed in April and died in September. It's untreatable. Some of ours have lasted much longer than that, a decade in fact. https://www.turnerfreeman.com.au/per...bernie-banton/ |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 04:33 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for almost an HOUR already!!!! LOL
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 04:33:35 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile asshole's troll**** 04:33??? LOL Is your unbearable loneliness not letting you sleep again, you disgusting senile pest? Serves you right! LOL -- The Natural Philosopher about senile Rot: "Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole." Message-ID: |
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On 24/02/2020 13:44, Ian wrote:
replying to John Rumm, Ian wrote: I have to cut away aÂ* 4ft x2ft section to expose ceiling joists. I don't want to pay for an expensive contractor for such a small job. What precautions should I take to remove with minimum harm to myself? Any suggestions? I wouldn't worry too much...Trump is bringing back its manufacture.... |
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