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Ian Stirling August 5th 04 10:51 PM

Frosting Glass
 
Graham Wilson wrote:
I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.

I know that it is possible to buy frosting film that sticks onto the
glass. However, I get the impression that it scratches very easily and
can end up looking tacky very quickly.

Any suggestions on how to go about frosting existing clear glass?


I assume you don't own a sandblaster?

tony sayer August 5th 04 10:58 PM

Frosting Glass
 
In article , Graham Wilson
writes
I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.

I know that it is possible to buy frosting film that sticks onto the
glass. However, I get the impression that it scratches very easily and
can end up looking tacky very quickly.

Any suggestions on how to go about frosting existing clear glass?

Thanks,
Graham


Some glass suppliers have a sort of shot or grit blast machine for doing
fancy decorative work, so I'm sure they could do a complete pane.

Or hydrofluoric acid IIRC?.

--
Tony Sayer


Andy Dingley August 5th 04 11:28 PM

Frosting Glass
 
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:43:28 GMT, Graham Wilson
wrote:

I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.


Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.

Best option is probably an aerosol frosting spray - a slightly matted
translucent varnish. You can apply this in situ, just mask the door
frames.

Hydrofluoric acid and sandblasters would work too, but they have
obvious complications and some non-obvious enormous safety problems.
You'd also need to strip the glass out of the door first.


Graham Wilson August 5th 04 11:43 PM

Frosting Glass
 
I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.

I know that it is possible to buy frosting film that sticks onto the
glass. However, I get the impression that it scratches very easily and
can end up looking tacky very quickly.

Any suggestions on how to go about frosting existing clear glass?

Thanks,
Graham


Graham Wilson August 6th 04 12:00 AM

Frosting Glass
 
On 05 Aug 2004 21:51:09 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote:


I assume you don't own a sandblaster?


Never needed to use one.

Graham



[email protected] August 6th 04 01:37 AM

Frosting Glass
 
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 23:28:53 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:43:28 GMT, Graham Wilson
wrote:

I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.


Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.

Best option is probably an aerosol frosting spray - a slightly matted
translucent varnish. You can apply this in situ, just mask the door
frames.


Do you know of a brand name?

Andrew Mawson August 6th 04 11:27 AM

Frosting Glass
 

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:43:28 GMT, Graham Wilson
wrote:

I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.


Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.

Best option is probably an aerosol frosting spray - a slightly matted
translucent varnish. You can apply this in situ, just mask the door
frames.

Hydrofluoric acid and sandblasters would work too, but they have
obvious complications and some non-obvious enormous safety problems.
You'd also need to strip the glass out of the door first.


Having seen (and heard the screams) of the effect of hydroflouric acid on
human beings I wouldn't lets it within a mile!

Girl on semiconductor assembly line working in a fume chamber with full
length gloves. Pinhole in glove, Hydroflouric acid absorbed straight though
the flesh and dissolved the bone. Girl unaware until she removed glove
complete with finger. Loud scream lots of running about, big enquiry.
Standard procedure to pressure test gloves - "oh it never fails - didn't
bother". That was over 30 years ago but still fresh in my mind!

Andrew Mawson



Tim Smith August 6th 04 11:45 AM

Frosting Glass
 
wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 23:28:53 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:43:28 GMT, Graham Wilson
wrote:

I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.


Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.

Best option is probably an aerosol frosting spray - a slightly matted
translucent varnish. You can apply this in situ, just mask the door
frames.


Do you know of a brand name?


Im sure B&Q sell it but I dont know the brand name.

Tim

Andy Dingley August 6th 04 11:50 AM

Frosting Glass
 
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

Having seen (and heard the screams) of the effect of hydroflouric acid on
human beings I wouldn't lets it within a mile!


Screams ? That's unusual. One of its less pleasant characteristics is
that it's not usually painful, just a slight tingling. It can be hours
later before you notice there's any injury.

Humbrol make a varnish-based frosting spray.

--
Smert' spamionam

Ian Stirling August 6th 04 12:22 PM

Frosting Glass
 
Andy Dingley wrote:
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

Having seen (and heard the screams) of the effect of hydroflouric acid on
human beings I wouldn't lets it within a mile!


Screams ? That's unusual. One of its less pleasant characteristics is
that it's not usually painful, just a slight tingling. It can be hours
later before you notice there's any injury.


Then again, if it's in a dose not high enough to kill the flesh, it
can cause CaF crystals to form on the bones, irritating them.
Treatment is to try to scrape it off the bones mechanically.

Andrew Mawson August 6th 04 12:44 PM

Frosting Glass
 

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

Having seen (and heard the screams) of the effect of hydroflouric acid on
human beings I wouldn't lets it within a mile!


Screams ? That's unusual. One of its less pleasant characteristics is
that it's not usually painful, just a slight tingling. It can be hours
later before you notice there's any injury.

Humbrol make a varnish-based frosting spray.

--
Smert' spamionam


The scream only came when she took off the glove at the end of the shift and
saw the missing finger, which re-inforces your point about it not being
painful.

Andrew Mawson



dmc August 6th 04 04:49 PM

Frosting Glass
 
In article ,
Andy Dingley wrote:

Screams ? That's unusual.


I think the screams where when she realised her finger was in the glove - not
because of any pain.

Darren


jacob August 6th 04 05:28 PM

Frosting Glass
 
Take them to a sand blaster or glass specialist - no prob, quite a common procedure.

cheers

Jacob

Michael Mcneil August 6th 04 05:36 PM

Frosting Glass
 
"tony sayer" wrote in message


In article , Graham Wilson
writes


Any suggestions on how to go about frosting existing clear glass?


Or hydrofluoric acid IIRC?.


Or (dare I say it?) caustic soda.


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Simon Stroud August 6th 04 06:52 PM

Frosting Glass
 
"jacob" wrote in message
om...
Take them to a sand blaster or glass specialist - no prob, quite a common

procedure.

cheers

Jacob

Are you talking about the glass items or the bones steeped in hydroflouric
acid? Maybe sandblasting off the stumps can stop it "spreading" further?

Simon.



Simon Stroud August 6th 04 06:55 PM

Frosting Glass
 
"Simon Stroud" wrote in message
...
"jacob" wrote in message
om...
Take them to a sand blaster or glass specialist - no prob, quite a

common
procedure.

cheers

Jacob

Are you talking about the glass items or the bones steeped in hydroflouric
acid? Maybe sandblasting off the stumps can stop it "spreading" further?

Simon.

Bum. Sorry about the typo. I will never again criticise anyone for writing
"FLOURescent" or similar. Curses.



N. Thornton August 6th 04 08:33 PM

Frosting Glass
 
Andy Dingley wrote in message . ..

Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.


Is sadblasting ok for toughened glass?

Regards, NT

N. Thornton August 6th 04 08:33 PM

Frosting Glass
 
Andy Dingley wrote in message . ..

Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.


Is sadblasting ok for toughened glass?

Regards, NT

Ian Stirling August 6th 04 09:12 PM

Frosting Glass
 
N. Thornton wrote:
Andy Dingley wrote in message . ..

Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.


Is sadblasting ok for toughened glass?


In theory, as long as you don't go too deep.
The fun problem is that the first notice you get that you've gone
too deep is it shattering then or some time in the future.

Alan J. Wylie August 7th 04 09:59 AM

Frosting Glass
 
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Mawson" said:

Having seen (and heard the screams) of the effect of hydroflouric
acid on human beings I wouldn't lets it within a mile!


Over in cam.misc someone is reporting that 54 litres of hydrofluoric
acid were stolen from premises in East Dereham two days ago.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cf0rve%24uqh%241%40newsg3.svr.pol.co.u k

--
Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Ian Stirling August 7th 04 02:01 PM

Frosting Glass
 
Graham Wilson wrote:
On 6 Aug 2004 09:28:08 -0700, (jacob)
wrote:

Take them to a sand blaster or glass specialist - no prob, quite a common procedure.


The problem is that the glass cannot be removed from the outer edging.


It is in theory possible to mask off the edging, and sandblast it, only
leaving a millimeter or so of clear.

Graham Wilson August 7th 04 02:21 PM

Frosting Glass
 
On 6 Aug 2004 09:28:08 -0700, (jacob)
wrote:

Take them to a sand blaster or glass specialist - no prob, quite a common procedure.


The problem is that the glass cannot be removed from the outer edging.

Graham



[email protected] August 7th 04 08:27 PM

Frosting Glass
 
On 6 Aug 2004 03:45:11 -0700, (Tim Smith)
wrote:

wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 23:28:53 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:43:28 GMT, Graham Wilson
wrote:

I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.

Almost any way will work - just do the back of the glass, not the
front.

Best option is probably an aerosol frosting spray - a slightly matted
translucent varnish. You can apply this in situ, just mask the door
frames.


Do you know of a brand name?


Im sure B&Q sell it but I dont know the brand name.

Tim


Thanks Tim I found it in B+Q today it's in the PlastiKote range.


raden August 8th 04 12:38 AM

Frosting Glass
 
In message , Graham Wilson
writes
I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.

I know that it is possible to buy frosting film that sticks onto the
glass. However, I get the impression that it scratches very easily and
can end up looking tacky very quickly.

Any suggestions on how to go about frosting existing clear glass?

You can get a plastic frosting layer which adheres to the glass

Just like as is used on every other pub window you see

--
geoff

Jerry Built August 9th 04 01:44 PM

Frosting Glass
 
Graham Wilson wrote:
... I wanted to frost the glass ...


Not that this'll help you, but you can "frost" glass by getting
a tin of grinding paste from your local motor factor, putting
some on the glass, and rubbing it with a block of metal (alloy)
in a circular fashion.


J.B.


RichardS August 10th 04 02:37 PM

Frosting Glass
 
"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
news:8eadfb71598e3aea46d97ed56cc27db1.45219@mygate .mailgate.org...
"tony sayer" wrote in message


In article , Graham Wilson
writes


Any suggestions on how to go about frosting existing clear glass?


Or hydrofluoric acid IIRC?.


Or (dare I say it?) caustic soda.



how about a nice mix of the two in a plastic bucket?

run away........



--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk



Mary Fisher August 17th 04 09:27 PM


"Graham Wilson" wrote in message
...
I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.


What do you want to hide?

Mary




raden August 18th 04 12:50 AM

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"Graham Wilson" wrote in message
.. .
I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.


What do you want to hide?

If he told you, there wouldn't be much point in hiding it behind frosted
glass would there?

--
geoff

Graham Wilson August 18th 04 08:13 PM

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:27:40 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Graham Wilson" wrote in message
.. .
I have just purchased two cabinets for the dining room. The cabinets
look very nice, but they have clear glass doors. I wanted to frost the
glass so you cannot see into them.


What do you want to hide?


The other half is using the cabinets to store various crap, including
plates and glasses.

If the glass is frosted, we will not be able to see the contents.

Having examined the options:

1. sand blasting the glass - not a particularly good idea unless the
glass can be removed from the door frame and it is very thick glass.

2. spray on frosting paint - you need to be a real dab hand with spray
paint to get an even surface coating.

3. B&Q provide frosting on a roll. It is like sticky back plastic and
it goes on the inside of the glass. Looks really good!

Graham



Graham




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