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Central heating - that time again
We are heading for a cool week with maximum outside temperatures forecast
to be around 14C to 16C. In spring this would, to me, be a sign that it was still too early to turn off the CH. In autumn it feels as though the extra jumper route is appropriate for the moment. I know that some people leave the CH on year round on the sensible argument that they maintain a constant indoor temperature so why ever turn it off? I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. I think if I know that it is going to be eventually warm without the CH I am reluctant to turn it on. If it is cold and miserable outside I seem to want a higher average temperature inside. Not logical (as in wear a jumper) but then I can probably afford the extra gas to raise the inside temperature to 20C (or a bit more) so the house is toasty when I come in from the cold. We also have significant solar gain at the back of the house so at the moment 50% of the house is around 22-24C and the other half at around 18-19C. Noting that I did try the experiment to move the hot air to the cold rooms but couldn't achieve a high enough flow rate with extractor fan technology. I think you would need industrial size air ducts (the kind people crawl along inside in films) to achieve an adequate rate of air exchange. No doubt things will get slowly colder during the week as heat outflow is greater than heat inflow over a number of days. For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 08/09/2019 11:57, David wrote:
For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. I lit the Aga a few weeks ago and ran the UFH for te first time yesrday - today it is sunny enough to not need it. Also seem to have first cold of the autumn. Glad I got the woodshed (almost) finished.. -- Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed. |
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David Wrote in message:
We are heading for a cool week with maximum outside temperatures forecast to be around 14C to 16C. In spring this would, to me, be a sign that it was still too early to turn off the CH. In autumn it feels as though the extra jumper route is appropriate for the moment. I know that some people leave the CH on year round on the sensible argument that they maintain a constant indoor temperature so why ever turn it off? I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. I think if I know that it is going to be eventually warm without the CH I am reluctant to turn it on. If it is cold and miserable outside I seem to want a higher average temperature inside. Not logical (as in wear a jumper) but then I can probably afford the extra gas to raise the inside temperature to 20C (or a bit more) so the house is toasty when I come in from the cold. We also have significant solar gain at the back of the house so at the moment 50% of the house is around 22-24C and the other half at around 18-19C. Noting that I did try the experiment to move the hot air to the cold rooms but couldn't achieve a high enough flow rate with extractor fan technology. I think you would need industrial size air ducts (the kind people crawl along inside in films) to achieve an adequate rate of air exchange. No doubt things will get slowly colder during the week as heat outflow is greater than heat inflow over a number of days. For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Jumper in the day and electric blanket in bed the last couple of nights, I haven't had the urge to turn the CH on yet. -- __ %Profound_observation% ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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In message , David
writes For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. NE here, rather than NW. First (light) frost this morning, so downstairs heating on for an hour to take the chill off. Front of the house faces SW, with large bay windows which capture the sun (and heat) from late morning to sunset, but temp will drop after sunset, so downstairs heating will be on for an hour early/mid evening. Upstairs heating for half an hour before bedtime. -- Graeme |
Central heating - that time again
In article , David
wrote: We are heading for a cool week with maximum outside temperatures forecast to be around 14C to 16C. In spring this would, to me, be a sign that it was still too early to turn off the CH. In autumn it feels as though the extra jumper route is appropriate for the moment. I know that some people leave the CH on year round on the sensible argument that they maintain a constant indoor temperature so why ever turn it off? I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. I think if I know that it is going to be eventually warm without the CH I am reluctant to turn it on. If it is cold and miserable outside I seem to want a higher average temperature inside. Not logical (as in wear a jumper) but then I can probably afford the extra gas to raise the inside temperature to 20C (or a bit more) so the house is toasty when I come in from the cold. We also have significant solar gain at the back of the house so at the moment 50% of the house is around 22-24C and the other half at around 18-19C. Noting that I did try the experiment to move the hot air to the cold rooms but couldn't achieve a high enough flow rate with extractor fan technology. I think you would need industrial size air ducts (the kind people crawl along inside in films) to achieve an adequate rate of air exchange. No doubt things will get slowly colder during the week as heat outflow is greater than heat inflow over a number of days. For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. we turned ours on the day before yesterday. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. -- *When did my wild oats turn to prunes and all bran? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 08/09/2019 12:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. SteveW |
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In article ,
Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 12:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. -- *Aim Low, Reach Your Goals, Avoid Disappointment * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 12:35:32 +0100, Graeme wrote:
For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. Never turn it off, thermal mass of the place means you really don't want it to cool down or it'll take days to warm back up to comfortable again. NE here, rather than NW. First (light) frost this morning, Not surprised, the "snowflake" was lit up on the cars dashboard almost all the way to Newcastle this morning. Beautifully clear sky, Milky Way cleary visible, without properly dark adpated eyes, as I got into the car at 0430. Bit of an inversion around Whitfield in the Allen valley where the air temp got down to 1C, higher up it was 3 or 4 C. It's certainly getting cooler, days with no demand for heat: Sep 18: 1 Oct 18: 0 Jan 19: 0 Feb 19: 0 Mar 19: 0 Apr 19: 6 May 19: 3 Jun 19: 4 Jul 19: 16 Aug 19: 8 Sep 19: 0 (so far...) -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 08/09/2019 11:57, David wrote:
We are heading for a cool week with maximum outside temperatures forecast to be around 14C to 16C. In spring this would, to me, be a sign that it was still too early to turn off the CH. In autumn it feels as though the extra jumper route is appropriate for the moment. I know that some people leave the CH on year round on the sensible argument that they maintain a constant indoor temperature so why ever turn it off? Indeed, I leave mine running (with weather compensation and a programmable stat) all the time. I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Here is where a programmable stat helps, such that it can select different temperatures for different times of day. I have my overnight setback temp set at 15 degrees, and that generally means that the CH won't fire (for heating) at all in the night anyway. I also find that weather compensation works very well at this time of year, since you are hardly even aware of the CH starting to kick in. It will run very gently in the morning with a flow temp that might only be 40 degrees or so, and then remain off for the rest of the day. For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. I noticed that mine was starting to heat the upstairs rads a bit in the morning about a week ago or so. I guess if I had to do it manually, I might of waited a week, although that is a difficult call since I don't know how cold it would have felt without that little bit of heating in the morning. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 08/09/2019 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 12:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. Not when you stay up late and someone else gets up early. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. The point is that keeping the house warm overnight or heating it up in the morning seems wasteful if the sun does the job by itself later in the morning. SteveW |
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On Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:57:31 UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
We are heading for a cool week with maximum outside temperatures forecast to be around 14C to 16C. In spring this would, to me, be a sign that it was still too early to turn off the CH. In autumn it feels as though the extra jumper route is appropriate for the moment. I know that some people leave the CH on year round on the sensible argument that they maintain a constant indoor temperature so why ever turn it off? I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. I think if I know that it is going to be eventually warm without the CH I am reluctant to turn it on. If it is cold and miserable outside I seem to want a higher average temperature inside. Not logical (as in wear a jumper) but then I can probably afford the extra gas to raise the inside temperature to 20C (or a bit more) so the house is toasty when I come in from the cold. We also have significant solar gain at the back of the house so at the moment 50% of the house is around 22-24C and the other half at around 18-19C. Noting that I did try the experiment to move the hot air to the cold rooms but couldn't achieve a high enough flow rate with extractor fan technology. I think you would need industrial size air ducts (the kind people crawl along inside in films) to achieve an adequate rate of air exchange. No doubt things will get slowly colder during the week as heat outflow is greater than heat inflow over a number of days. For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. Cheers Dave R Haven't even seriously thought about it yet. Bedrooms are cooler but beds are perfectly warm enough after a few minutes. Main reason we do tend to get round to turning it on is when it is damp out there. Biggest reason to be thoughtful is that we so often open the garden room doors to outside and that then triggers the heating to come on - usually unnecessarily until it is much cooler. |
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Steve Walker wrote: I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. Not when you stay up late and someone else gets up early. In this case night generally means a time when people are in bed. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. The point is that keeping the house warm overnight or heating it up in the morning seems wasteful if the sun does the job by itself later in the morning. OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? -- *They told me I had type-A blood, but it was a Type-O.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 09/09/2019 00:05, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker wrote: I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. Not when you stay up late and someone else gets up early. In this case night generally means a time when people are in bed. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. The point is that keeping the house warm overnight or heating it up in the morning seems wasteful if the sun does the job by itself later in the morning. OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? No, I prefer to heat it, but the David was saying that he felt it wasteful and you replied "Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on" which was not what I read the post as being about and I was simply stating why he might have felt it wasteful. SteveW |
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In article , Steve Walker
wrote: On 08/09/2019 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 12:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. Not when you stay up late and someone else gets up early. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. The point is that keeping the house warm overnight or heating it up in the morning seems wasteful if the sun does the job by itself later in the morning. Knowingb it's going to be warm at 10am, doesn't make you warm at 6.30am. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On Monday, 9 September 2019 00:05:29 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? I used to hate waking up with ice on the inside of the windows, but as a kid you don't get to choose. NT |
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In article ,
wrote: On Monday, 9 September 2019 00:05:29 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? I used to hate waking up with ice on the inside of the windows, but as a kid you don't get to choose. When you woke up with the hot water bottle frozen you had something to moan about. ;-) -- *You can't teach an old mouse new clicks * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article ,
charles wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 12:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. Not when you stay up late and someone else gets up early. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. The point is that keeping the house warm overnight or heating it up in the morning seems wasteful if the sun does the job by itself later in the morning. Knowingb it's going to be warm at 10am, doesn't make you warm at 6.30am. Quite - if the sun starts to warm up the house later in the morning, even a simple system should accommodate for this. A weather compensated one rather more efficiently. -- *Great groups from little icons grow * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 08/09/2019 12:35, Graeme wrote:
In message , David writes For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. NE here, rather than NW.Â* First (light) frost this morning, so downstairs heating on for an hour to take the chill off.Â* Front of the house faces SW, with large bay windows which capture the sun (and heat) from late morning to sunset, but temp will drop after sunset, so downstairs heating will be on for an hour early/mid evening.Â* Upstairs heating for half an hour before bedtime. I'm still wearing shorts in Sussex. Nice warm/hot day yesterday. Got the top dulux weathershield coat on the windows and restained the patio door hardwood surround. Even found an old pre-VOC2010 half-used tin of Weathersheild white gloss in perfect condition (I always invert the tin after use having carefully cleaned all round the mating edges of tin and lid which I also seal with smear of linseed oil). Today it absolutely ****ed down. |
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On 08/09/2019 12:44, charles wrote:
In article , David wrote: We are heading for a cool week with maximum outside temperatures forecast to be around 14C to 16C. In spring this would, to me, be a sign that it was still too early to turn off the CH. In autumn it feels as though the extra jumper route is appropriate for the moment. I know that some people leave the CH on year round on the sensible argument that they maintain a constant indoor temperature so why ever turn it off? I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. I think if I know that it is going to be eventually warm without the CH I am reluctant to turn it on. If it is cold and miserable outside I seem to want a higher average temperature inside. Not logical (as in wear a jumper) but then I can probably afford the extra gas to raise the inside temperature to 20C (or a bit more) so the house is toasty when I come in from the cold. We also have significant solar gain at the back of the house so at the moment 50% of the house is around 22-24C and the other half at around 18-19C. Noting that I did try the experiment to move the hot air to the cold rooms but couldn't achieve a high enough flow rate with extractor fan technology. I think you would need industrial size air ducts (the kind people crawl along inside in films) to achieve an adequate rate of air exchange. No doubt things will get slowly colder during the week as heat outflow is greater than heat inflow over a number of days. For those who turn the CH off in the summer, is it CH on time again? I assume some of those in the NW have already passed that point. we turned ours on the day before yesterday. The Jet Stream forecast suggests the coming weekend will be an Indian Summer. It will be the local Harvest Festival Village Fete on Sep 28th, and since it started about 15 years ago, they have never had bad weather, and usually nice and warm. |
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On 09/09/2019 09:04, charles wrote:
In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 12:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. Not when you stay up late and someone else gets up early. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. The point is that keeping the house warm overnight or heating it up in the morning seems wasteful if the sun does the job by itself later in the morning. Knowingb it's going to be warm at 10am, doesn't make you warm at 6.30am. So stay in bed until later. |
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On 09/09/2019 14:28, Andrew wrote:
On 09/09/2019 10:01, wrote: On Monday, 9 September 2019 00:05:29 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News)Â* wrote: OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? I used to hate waking up with ice on the inside of the windows, but as a kid you don't get to choose. NT I remember those days well. Single glazed metal crittall windows and no fitted carpets or CH. But I don't remember feeing cold. I remember that too. And ALWAYS feeling cold. -- The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property. Karl Marx |
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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/09/2019 14:28, Andrew wrote: On 09/09/2019 10:01, wrote: On Monday, 9 September 2019 00:05:29 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? I used to hate waking up with ice on the inside of the windows, but as a kid you don't get to choose. NT I remember those days well. Single glazed metal crittall windows and no fitted carpets or CH. But I don't remember feeing cold. I remember that too. And ALWAYS feeling cold. Was that because your public school couldn't afford heating? But never mind - at least they made a nice big profit. - -- *I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 09/09/2019 14:05, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , charles wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 08/09/2019 12:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , David wrote: I seem to have a few mental hang ups about temperature; for example if we have hot days and cold nights it doesn't feel right to heat the house overnight then throw the doors wide open during the day to allow that expensive heated air to flow out. Perhaps you need to investigate proper temperature control if your house can get too hot due to the CH being on. I think that he was saying that is seems wasteful to heat the house at night and then when it is warmed further by the sun in the morning, be opening doors and windows to let the hot air out, when he could stay warmer in the evening by wearing more and let the house warm up naturally the next day. I'd say it's always wasteful to heat the house at night. Not when you stay up late and someone else gets up early. And a decent system will compensate if it suddenly gets warm outside during the morning. The point is that keeping the house warm overnight or heating it up in the morning seems wasteful if the sun does the job by itself later in the morning. Knowingb it's going to be warm at 10am, doesn't make you warm at 6.30am. Quite - if the sun starts to warm up the house later in the morning, even a simple system should accommodate for this. A weather compensated one rather more efficiently. We know that, but he was talkign about solar gain being so high that he had to open windows. Then the argument becomes do you put up with a few hours of cold or use fuel to heat the house just to get over those few hours. SteveW |
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Steve Walker wrote: Quite - if the sun starts to warm up the house later in the morning, even a simple system should accommodate for this. A weather compensated one rather more efficiently. We know that, but he was talkign about solar gain being so high that he had to open windows. Then the argument becomes do you put up with a few hours of cold or use fuel to heat the house just to get over those few hours. It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. -- *IF ONE SYNCHRONIZED SWIMMER DROWNS, DO THE REST DROWN TOO? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:58:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker wrote: Quite - if the sun starts to warm up the house later in the morning, even a simple system should accommodate for this. A weather compensated one rather more efficiently. We know that, but he was talkign about solar gain being so high that he had to open windows. Then the argument becomes do you put up with a few hours of cold or use fuel to heat the house just to get over those few hours. It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. Modern, perhaps? Large area of bifolds and 3 roof lights, all South facing, does trap a lot of heat very quickly on a sunny day. Even more so in Spring and Autumn when the sun is lower in the sky and shines further into the room. Oh, and modern insulation as well. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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In article ,
David wrote: It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. Modern, perhaps? Large area of bifolds and 3 roof lights, all South facing, does trap a lot of heat very quickly on a sunny day. Quicker than a thermostat can shut the heating down? Of course no matter what the starting temperature, solar gain can make that room too hot quite quickly. Best to get some blinds, etc. -- *Why isn't 11 pronounced onety one? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 09/09/2019 19:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , David wrote: It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. Modern, perhaps? Large area of bifolds and 3 roof lights, all South facing, does trap a lot of heat very quickly on a sunny day. Quicker than a thermostat can shut the heating down? No-one is saying that the CH won't switch off, only that it is a choice between heating the house for a few hours or putting up with the cold until solar gain warms it up a few hours later anyway. SteveW |
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"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 09/09/2019 10:01, wrote: On Monday, 9 September 2019 00:05:29 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? I used to hate waking up with ice on the inside of the windows, but as a kid you don't get to choose. NT I remember those days well. Single glazed metal crittall windows and no fitted carpets or CH. But I don't remember feeing cold. I do, and remember riding my bike to school and ending up with frozen ears in winter. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Steve Walker wrote: Quite - if the sun starts to warm up the house later in the morning, even a simple system should accommodate for this. A weather compensated one rather more efficiently. We know that, but he was talkign about solar gain being so high that he had to open windows. Then the argument becomes do you put up with a few hours of cold or use fuel to heat the house just to get over those few hours. It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. Or one that is designed to do that, like mine. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 10:11:24 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. Or one that is designed to do that, like mine. You can shove your "house" up yours, senile asshole! -- dennis@home to know-it-all Rot Speed: "You really should stop commenting on things you know nothing about." Message-ID: |
Central heating - that time again
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Steve Walker wrote: On 09/09/2019 19:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , David wrote: It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. Modern, perhaps? Large area of bifolds and 3 roof lights, all South facing, does trap a lot of heat very quickly on a sunny day. Quicker than a thermostat can shut the heating down? No-one is saying that the CH won't switch off, only that it is a choice between heating the house for a few hours or putting up with the cold until solar gain warms it up a few hours later anyway. Ah. Right. Bit of a non question, then. -- *I believe five out of four people have trouble with fractions. * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Central heating - that time again
On 10/09/2019 00:21, jeikppkywk wrote:
"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 09/09/2019 10:01, wrote: On Monday, 9 September 2019 00:05:29 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News)Â* wrote: OK. So you prefer to freeze when getting up early? I used to hate waking up with ice on the inside of the windows, but as a kid you don't get to choose. NT I remember those days well. Single glazed metal crittall windows and no fitted carpets or CH. But I don't remember feeing cold. I do, and remember riding my bike to school and ending up with frozen ears in winter. During the big freeze in 1963 we had no water for 6 weeks (frozen underground metal mains pipe) and no school buses for a while. A group of us walked the two miles each way, and part of the route was quite a steep hill, which was entertaining because it was just sheet ice and packed snow. Councils didn't seem to believe in putting salt on the roads in those days, hence the lack of buses. |
Central heating - that time again
On 09/09/2019 19:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , David wrote: It would be a very odd house where solar gain happens that quickly. Modern, perhaps? Large area of bifolds and 3 roof lights, all South facing, does trap a lot of heat very quickly on a sunny day. Quicker than a thermostat can shut the heating down? Of course no matter what the starting temperature, solar gain can make that room too hot quite quickly. Best to get some blinds, etc. My 1976 house faces south and the solar gain affects the internal house temperature very quickly. With a 37 degree roof pitch and no dormers it would be ideal for solar panels, but the economics don't add up (unless we are all forced into demand pricing and paying £1 per KwH at peak times.) |
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